davulsukur Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 lol, fair play Yorkblue. I seemed to have mistaken Venkys for normal Football club owners. It won't happen again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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walk down bolton road Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 "Venkys missed the boat big time on that one." They were never interested in making the voyage and never have been. Only interested in carrying on in our rotten rowing boat with one oar missing, holed below the water line with Captain Calamity heading for the nearest iceberg. Superb post +1.Captain Calamity great new name for Coco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9GzgvneZgU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenodrog Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Anybody else noticed that although it was obviously an accident MGP never even looked around to see if Kean was oK or even to apologise or acknowledge him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sysagent Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 He wont be playing in the next game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Marky Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Showed a distinct lack of respect . Unlike Morten that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi Mack Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I noticed that also, he didnt acknowledge Kean at all. I believe the players are all at rock bottom at the moment, seeing players being dropped for stupid reasons cant be good for morale. Kean out!!! Venkys out!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyblue Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 'The players are obviously behind him'. If the likes of Lawro think so, who are mere plebs like us to argue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 'The players are obviously behind him'. That's effectively saying that even with the dressing room he's a terrible manager. Not sure that's what Lawro was going for, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovermatt Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 It's been said before without doubt, but as I was talking about Steve Kean with my brother the other night (we talk about Kean a lot unfortunately), I came to the conclusion that one of my main gripes with the manager is that he must know that he's not up to the job, that he has no chance of leading this team to survival. We all say he's deranged (myself included) in our darker moments each week but in reality that's highly unlikely. What is far easier to imagine is that he's stealing a living at the moment and has no intention of going anywhere without being paid off. While almost every one of us would do the same thing in our own lives, none of us will ever become Premiership football managers nor be given obnoxious salary increases in spite of our horrendous job performance. As such, does the man really lack any shred of integrity? Under his stewardship the club is sliding into the abyss, wins at Old Trafford notwithstanding. He must see this - it's plainly obvious to everyone without a knowledge of the inner workings at Ewood (such as they are). Yet he remains in post, clearly without any intention of doing what is best for the club's future and handing in his resignation. He clearly intends instead to milk the club of every last drop before finally skipping off to a decade of fleeting employment. That is exactly what awaits him after he's done with Blackburn Rovers, so tattered is his reputation. He may be receiving patronising phone calls from his peers telling him he's doing an excellent job (I bet Fergie's not been in touch again mind) and he may enjoy the apparent support of the majority of the nation's football fans, but from here on out there's not a chairman nor supporter who would want him as the manager of their team. That is entirely his own fault. Venky's erred by appointing him, that is beyond doubt but the team did, in fairness, survive under his leadership last season (a position we'd not have been anywhere near under a proper manager of course). At that point he could have quietly had his master, Jerome Anderson, negotiate a nice package before slipping away: job done, head held high, disaster averted. For all that Venky's have splurged on increasing the guy's bank balance since the last day of 2010/2011 (not to mention the cost of inevitable relegation in 2011/2012), that would have made perfect financial sense at the very least. I've tried to avoid hating Steve Kean - a mere football manager - wishing to reserve that sort of emotion for the likes of David Norris, Gary Dobson or the guy dating the girl I'm in love with. His position as manager is owing entirely to the incompetence and stupidity of the owners. As far as I'm concerned they are the main problem. In recent weeks however Kean's belligerent attitude with regard to the club's loyal fans and his own record (his slight softening in the wake of the United game aside) has led me to seriously question both his character and worth as a human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 It's been said before without doubt, but as I was talking about Steve Kean with my brother the other night (we talk about Kean a lot unfortunately), I came to the conclusion that one of my main gripes with the manager is that he must know that he's not up to the job, that he has no chance of leading this team to survival. We all say he's deranged (myself included) in our darker moments each week but in reality that's highly unlikely. What is far easier to imagine is that he's stealing a living at the moment and has no intention of going anywhere without being paid off. While almost every one of us would do the same thing in our own lives, none of us will ever become Premiership football managers nor be given obnoxious salary increases in spite of our horrendous job performance. As such, does the man really lack any shred of integrity? Under his stewardship the club is sliding into the abyss, wins at Old Trafford notwithstanding. He must see this - it's plainly obvious to everyone without a knowledge of the inner workings at Ewood (such as they are). Yet he remains in post, clearly without any intention of doing what is best for the club's future and handing in his resignation. He clearly intends instead to milk the club of every last drop before finally skipping off to a decade of fleeting employment. That is exactly what awaits him after he's done with Blackburn Rovers, so tattered is his reputation. He may be receiving patronising phone calls from his peers telling him he's doing an excellent job (I bet Fergie's not been in touch again mind) and he may enjoy the apparent support of the majority of the nation's football fans, but from here on out there's not a chairman nor supporter who would want him as the manager of their team. That is entirely his own fault. Venky's erred by appointing him, that is beyond doubt but the team did, in fairness, survive under his leadership last season (a position we'd not have been anywhere near under a proper manager of course). At that point he could have quietly had his master, Jerome Anderson, negotiate a nice package before slipping away: job done, head held high, disaster averted. For all that Venky's have splurged on increasing the guy's bank balance since the last day of 2010/2011 (not to mention the cost of inevitable relegation in 2011/2012), that would have made perfect financial sense at the very least. I've tried to avoid hating Steve Kean - a mere football manager - wishing to reserve that sort of emotion for the likes of David Norris, Gary Dobson or the guy dating the girl I'm in love with. His position as manager is owing entirely to the incompetence and stupidity of the owners. As far as I'm concerned they are the main problem. In recent weeks however Kean's belligerent attitude with regard to the club's loyal fans and his own record (his slight softening in the wake of the United game aside) has led me to seriously question both his character and worth as a human being. People are deluded, just because you think logically, doesn't mean everyone in the world doesn't believe the lies in their head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 'The players are obviously behind him'. If the likes of Lawro think so, who are mere plebs like us to argue? being a friend of Dorothy, Lawro is always behind some one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mellelieu Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 did i miss something? My favourite 'Heep album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 People are deluded, just because you think logically, doesn't mean everyone in the world doesn't believe the lies in their head I genuinely think he believes he's good enough, and just had some bad luck. The master of self-belief and positivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 My favourite 'Heep album. I saw them at King Georges hall Blackburn Mick Box was just amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steverovers Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I saw them at King Georges hall Blackburn Mick Box was just amazing I saw them last month in London. Mick Box is still amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom DE. Posted January 5, 2012 Backroom Share Posted January 5, 2012 That's effectively saying that even with the dressing room he's a terrible manager. Not sure that's what Lawro was going for, though. I've been saying this for some time... I don't understand why people consider saying 'the players are behind him' as something positive. Surely if the players are behind him and we're still dreadful that just makes it worse?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47er Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 It's been said before without doubt, but as I was talking about Steve Kean with my brother the other night (we talk about Kean a lot unfortunately), I came to the conclusion that one of my main gripes with the manager is that he must know that he's not up to the job, that he has no chance of leading this team to survival. We all say he's deranged (myself included) in our darker moments each week but in reality that's highly unlikely. What is far easier to imagine is that he's stealing a living at the moment and has no intention of going anywhere without being paid off. While almost every one of us would do the same thing in our own lives, none of us will ever become Premiership football managers nor be given obnoxious salary increases in spite of our horrendous job performance. As such, does the man really lack any shred of integrity? Under his stewardship the club is sliding into the abyss, wins at Old Trafford notwithstanding. He must see this - it's plainly obvious to everyone without a knowledge of the inner workings at Ewood (such as they are). Yet he remains in post, clearly without any intention of doing what is best for the club's future and handing in his resignation. He clearly intends instead to milk the club of every last drop before finally skipping off to a decade of fleeting employment. That is exactly what awaits him after he's done with Blackburn Rovers, so tattered is his reputation. He may be receiving patronising phone calls from his peers telling him he's doing an excellent job (I bet Fergie's not been in touch again mind) and he may enjoy the apparent support of the majority of the nation's football fans, but from here on out there's not a chairman nor supporter who would want him as the manager of their team. That is entirely his own fault. Venky's erred by appointing him, that is beyond doubt but the team did, in fairness, survive under his leadership last season (a position we'd not have been anywhere near under a proper manager of course). At that point he could have quietly had his master, Jerome Anderson, negotiate a nice package before slipping away: job done, head held high, disaster averted. For all that Venky's have splurged on increasing the guy's bank balance since the last day of 2010/2011 (not to mention the cost of inevitable relegation in 2011/2012), that would have made perfect financial sense at the very least. I've tried to avoid hating Steve Kean - a mere football manager - wishing to reserve that sort of emotion for the likes of David Norris, Gary Dobson or the guy dating the girl I'm in love with. His position as manager is owing entirely to the incompetence and stupidity of the owners. As far as I'm concerned they are the main problem. In recent weeks however Kean's belligerent attitude with regard to the club's loyal fans and his own record (his slight softening in the wake of the United game aside) has led me to seriously question both his character and worth as a human being. You're speaking for me there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 You're speaking for me there! There's a guy dating the girl you're in love with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majiball Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 There's a guy dating the girl you're in love with? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Maureen Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 There's a guy dating the girl you're in love with? She's seeing Mick Box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steverovers Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 She's seeing Mick Box. I didn't think he was THAT good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovermatt Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Having a bit of back and forth with one of The Guardian's sports editors/podcasters in light of yet more silly statements about our fans alleged appalling behaviour against Bolton. I would encourage you all to get involved here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0r94n Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Having a bit of back and forth with one of The Guardian's sports editors/podcasters in light of yet more silly statements about our fans alleged appalling behaviour against Bolton. I would encourage you all to get involved here. He doesn't seem to like us does he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckyRover Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 He doesn't seem to like us does he? Why would a Guardian journalist like a poor deprived northern town? The liberal intelligentsia in a nutshell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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