[Archived] Steve Kean Thread (Poll reset after Stoke game)

[cravenblue]

I think it would only take one of the senior players to speak against him, rather than toeing the party line, them others would follow, he them loses the dressing room and has to go

[Glenn]

googled "Kean out" recently and was amazed to get 10,700,000 results!

It's "only" 156,000 if you do it in quotes

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

I can't believe he is still the manager. I was one that believed we should give him the Wigan match - for me he failed miserably to set the team up right for that match. Yesterday - I don't think the performance was as bad as some are making out - and with a little more rub of the green we would have got something from the match. It isn't about Kean any more - it could be any manager in charge - he has gone totally beyond the point where he can retrieve the situation (if he ever could). We need a new broom to (hopefully) sweep away the problems on the playing side (I fear the problems in the background caused by the Venky's will take a lot longer to sort out).

Because of the poor results of other teams - this is still retrievable at the moment - they can't afford for the Kean "experiment" to go on another match - or it could quickly become too late.

[Mercer]

I think it would only take one of the senior players to speak against him, rather than toeing the party line, them others would follow, he them loses the dressing room and has to go

It's speculated that one already has but to no avail.

It needs 4 or 5 of the seniors to turn. I suspect that the better players wont as they know they have an exit route whilst the others wont as there'd probably be no place for them with a new manager.

[mogster]

Chins up

Chest out

Time to go out and face my Dingle mates....

Thanks Kean and co for another Sunday like this !

Think we are getting weary now and resigned to our fate.

Having said that, could be worse, could be a Claret..

This isn't going to help you with your Burnley mates but I was listening to the post match reactions on Radio Lancashire yesterday. They interviewed Kean and then Eddie Howe. I know their results have been poor but I listened enviously to Howe talk.

The interviews were like chalk and cheese - from the ramblings of a madman to a sensible chat with someone who empathised with the fans and agreed that things had been going wrong and said what they'd been doing to put them right.

Kean mentioned 'the majority' again but his definition of the majority is becoming clouded as his position seems to have shifted from 'the majority are behind me' to 'the majority want us to be successful'. I don't know where this revision is leading but it's usually said with a motive.

His inteview was nothing less than an embarrassing sham, intended only for three sets of absent ears.

Kean's reliance on statistics show the sense behind Disraeli's famous quote. The only stat he needs take notice of is 6 wins in 34 matches which produces a fact - The worst Premier League Manager ever!

How the hell did we end up here?!

[Roth]

It needs 4 or 5 of the seniors to turn. I suspect that the better players wont as they know they have an exit route whilst the others wont as there'd probably be no place for them with a new manager.

Or it needs some nobody coach (who has an influential agent) to hop on a plane to India and tip off the owners that the current manager has lost the dressing room and therefore should be sacked. While he is there he should also let the owners know that he would be perfect for the job because he is a young British coach who is a good thinker and a hard worker and has the potential to go on and be the next big thing in the managerial world.

Just an idea i think might work...

[ABBEY]

If he is a "owner" we're shagged!

[paullarrygher]

I'm certain that 99% of those at BRFC know that Kean's position is untenable and has been for the past 2 months. I doubt this would happen but it seems like there are a few senior players that don't support Kean. Samba (indicated by his brother tweeting "Kean Out"), Robbo (being the only player to come over to the fans at Wigan) and MGP (dodging the question of whether he supports the manager). And I can't imagine there being anyone that upset in the playing camp (maybe bar JR) that would be all that upset to have Kean sacked. It seems like the only thing left is for these senior players to come out and publicly state they no longer have belief in the manager's ability to turn it round.

Saying that, I'm sure Kean would brush it off as nothing and just play the academy team instead.

[den]

I can't believe he is still the manager. I was one that believed we should give him the Wigan match -

Found that quote amusing DMTP.

Yes you gave him the Wigan match - and every game until and including the Wigan match. Looks like you've seen what almost everyone else has been seeing for almost a year now.

Still, better late than never, but very probably too late. Much too late.

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[Emge]

I have told my father about this whole cirkus and how the club is being ruined and Kean rewarded with a new contract when he should have been sacked a long time ago.

He just said: "Why cant the players go against him on a strike?"

Which is a pretty good idea. But do we know how the players relationship with Kean really is?

Givet was caught drinkdriving after attending a "players meeting" - when has a meeting like that happened before, I cant remember hearing about something like that before.

It would be absolutely fantastic if the players actually did something here - after all, they are the main people of Blackburn Rovers - and more now than ever really.

[LeftWinger]

It would be absolutely fantastic if the players actually did something here - after all, they are the main people of Blackburn Rovers - and more now than ever really.

Surely the fans are the main people. Players come and go.

[sharpysharps]

I find it hard to believe that Ryan Nelsen isn't deeply concerned. He is one of very very few players at the club at the moment who I think genuinley care about Blackburn Rovers.

I find it extremely hard to believe that any of the players are behind him but like somebody mentioned earlier, our better players will be focussing solely on a move in January before they consider doing anything to get their current club on track.

[Emge]

Surely the fans are the main people. Players come and go.

Well, of course they are - but I meant in terms of being employers of Blackburn Rovers FC.

[Mercer]

I find it hard to believe that Ryan Nelsen isn't deeply concerned. He is one of very very few players at the club at the moment who I think genuinley care about Blackburn Rovers.

I find it extremely hard to believe that any of the players are behind him but like somebody mentioned earlier, our better players will be focussing solely on a move in January before they consider doing anything to get their current club on track.

Ryan Nelsen was given a new contract back in January which, IMO, wasn't necessary as clearly his best days have long since gone. Older players struggle with their legs and injuries. I think he said at the time of Sam's sacking that he couldn't understand it - you therefore question as to whether this new contract 'bought' his silence ?

The same happened with Salgado and Roberts whilst Hoilett wasn't secured. Enough said !!!

[Amo]

We must be in some kinda bizarro world where the Premier League's worst manager is unsackable.

[Mercer]

A ray of hope from Nicko:

reluctantnickoAlan Nixon @BKKRover: Deffo a split over contract. Looking at a Yank on trial. Still no word on budget. Whisper this is going to be a big week ...

reluctantnickoAlan Nixon @garym161: A long way to go to Saturday. Sensors are picking up some potential drama.

[Mattyblue]

A ray of hope from Nicko:

reluctantnickoAlan Nixon @BKKRover: Deffo a split over contract. Looking at a Yank on trial. Still no word on budget. Whisper this is going to be a big week ...

reluctantnickoAlan Nixon @garym161: A long way to go to Saturday. Sensors are picking up some potential drama.

Come on Mercer, we've been down this road on FAR too many Sunday's to get our hopes up!

[steve42]

"We want to get an established back four together, like we had at the end of last season, and we will get that clean sheet mentality back." - Kean in LET post Stoke comments. Really bizarre. I think I'm right in saying Kean has had only 4 clean sheets in the PL (two of which were nil-nil's) of which only one (v Bolton) was really at the end of last season. Anyway everyone else seems to think that it's the lack of defence in depth, lack of midfield tracking back that leaks goals rather than a more solid back four (although obviously desirable). To think that getting clean sheets is something to do with state-of-mind rather than team set-up and tactics is a mind boggling thing for a so-called professional manager to come up with. To hark back to some supposed golden defensive age last season (when it wasn't) is just a trip down delusional lane - particularly as we have now lost the services of Emerton, Jones and Jones. Clearly though comments like these are as usual made for the Pune audience and no-one else.

[philipl]

Come on Mercer, we've been down this road on FAR too many Sunday's to get our hopes up!

I think there is a difference this time given that finally there is a bulldozer as well as guys with tweezers and brushes on site- in other words there are folks out there finally taking rumours seriously enough to put time and effort in to getting to the bottom of them.

At least we might soon find out which ones are almost certainly not true and I would put the Glaswegian hoodlums into that category already.

My hunch is we will be left with the most prosaic explanation of all.

We are in the hands of three disfunctional rich inheritance siblings who squabble between themselves thereby making themselves (the only people who could change things at Rovers) powerless to do anything meaningful whatsoever. The myth that these three are somehow super successful high-powered business people is being exploded by the day.

It is Mrs D for Dumb for how she allowed herself to get trapped in the unfurling Lavasa farce.

[trs]

For crying out loud, just sack the effin man NOW!

[John]

The man is a complete insult to our club and a devious p**ck - you are not wanted here Steve Kean in any shape or form, you manipulative rat.

[deftangel]

I think there is a difference this time given that finally there is a bulldozer as well as guys with tweezers and brushes on site- in other words there are folks out there finally taking rumours seriously enough to put time and effort in to getting to the bottom of them.

At least we might soon find out which ones are almost certainly not true and I would put the Glaswegian hoodlums into that category already.

My hunch is we will be left with the most prosaic explanation of all.

We are in the hands of three disfunctional rich inheritance siblings who squabble between themselves thereby making themselves (the only people who could change things at Rovers) powerless to do anything meaningful whatsoever. The myth that these three are somehow super successful high-powered business people is being exploded by the day.

It is Mrs D for Dumb for how she allowed herself to get trapped in the unfurling Lavasa farce.

I do find such staggering ineptitude difficult to believe. We are bottom of the table, he is the worst currently serving Premier League manager and likely in the top 10 worse *ever*, (though he's not the worst yet). He's paid comparatively peanuts so would have been cheap to get rid of and replace with someone, anyone with experience who might like a challenge and a big fat bonus for protecting YOUR multi-million investment.

Yet, the choose to ratify a pay rise instead.

It's beyond the realms of rational comprehension. Even if they were completely ignorant about the sport, or sport in general, it just flies in the face of common sense.

It can't *just* be stupidity at this stage.

[Mercer]

A lovely afternoon and have been in three Ribble Valley villages, and pubs, this afternoon.

Not surprisingly, not a single siting of Kean. I think this man's village is in his own mind !

[Amo]

A lovely afternoon and have been in three Ribble Valley villages, and pubs, this afternoon.

Not surprisingly, not a single siting of Kean. I think this man's village is in his own mind !

Why do I always picture The Shire when he says that?

[yoda]

A lovely afternoon and have been in three Ribble Valley villages, and pubs, this afternoon.

Not surprisingly, not a single siting of Kean. I think this man's village is in his own mind !

Try Port Merion!

I am not a number, I am a free man