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[Archived] Steve Kean Thread (Poll reset after Stoke game)


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  1. 1. Should Steve Kean be sacked



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I think this is great, too. Let's get onto mates supporting other clubs round the country and get the craze going - especially at televised games!

Best idea since the plane, if others will join in and it becomes a craze, who knows where we will see it!

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The Kean Out thing is becoming a bit of a craze. There was that swiss banner at the tennis last week and if there's banners going round at other grounds it is becoming pretty funny.

Well that is great! Rovers and apparently Sky can stop us taking banners into games in which we feature but if Rovers fans took them to any event they go----- concerts and the like, that would have the effect of turning Kean into an even bigger

figure of fun and would help get the message through to the rest of the media and, in the end, maybe even to Venkys. A very enjoyable way of protesting peacefully.

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Would be absolutely hilarious if "Kean out" became a trend in terms of banners all over England. My god how fantastic that would have been.

I bet alot of people on here has friends in pretty much every club all over - why dont you give them a Kean out-banner and tell them to bring them to their games? :lol: :lol:

It would be awesome, at least something funny would come of it. Hope this takes off.

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But DMTP, you may have a point with some of the U-turns made from some posters on here, exhibit A, the Liverpool thread from January:

http://www.brfcs.co.uk/mb/index.php/topic/23967-blackburn-rovers-v-liverpool/page__st__440

And some have been remarkably consistent. Here's a portion of my comment:

Amen. It's never been about Sam or JW or any one other person. It's always been about the club. Some of Venkys' decisions seem bizzare and completely lacking in common sense. That includes the sacking of Sam and the [alleged] sidelining of JW. As a Rovers supporter, it is fair to comment and express reservations. It is not a contradiction to be pleased with a proper footballing 3-1 Rovers victory over Liverpool. Likewise to keep fingers crossed in the hopes that this is not an aberation.

As history has proven, Liverpool was an aberation.

Which other posters, such as Theno, was also cautious of:

Excellent win last night but lets not forget that Liverpool until they very flukily beat Bolton on Sat and we lost to Sunderland were below us in the Prem. Liverpool by their previous standards are a dysfunctional misfiring outfit with no outstanding players.

Or here is a portion of Parsonblue's post:

However, that small point aside, I felt it was a terrific performance last night. I must admit that I had, and still do have doubts about the manager, but on the evidence of last night I suspect that he might well prove me, and a good many others, wrong.

Those are three examples drawn from one page amongst many. Yes, Liverpool was a heartwarming win. I'll even go so far to say it engendered a brief (albeit ultimately futile) hope. But even so, the handwritting was on the wall and some were aware enough to spot it.

Others were blind to the obvious. Some who were blind now see. Others are busy trying to recreate history (the "I wanted Sam sacked but didn't want Kean as manager, etc." crowd).

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I see the voting has begun to turn in the last few minutes. It's 297 to 1 now. I'm sure Keano can take the positives from that, "something to build on" I'd have thought.

A "massive swing" in his favour Bob.

Can someone point me in the direction of where those thousands who send Kean emails of support everyday have their poll? Our is far too biased.

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Would be absolutely hilarious if "Kean out" became a trend in terms of banners all over England. My god how fantastic that would have been.

It will be like the Soccer Am thing that happened a few years ago when they used to spot people with Save Chip signs which became part of pop culture. I would love it if this took off. Trying banning that you baldy headed ***t!

Also, on today's Guardian Football Podcast they talk about how Steve Kean has been a total disaster. Barry Glendenning, who I think is very good, annoyed me a few weeks ago when he more or less said that the fans were over reacting and should be pleased with the job that Kean was doing. The penny has finally seemed to drop with them all and they mention his abysmal record, how he has somehow been given a pay raise, what an awful team we are, how he's lucky to still be in a job and how the fans genuinely hate him. It's nice to hear and it seems like people in the media are slowly coming round to what's been going on at the club and that we are justified in the stance we are taking. It's around 16.15 mark.

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Sorry if this has been posted earlier, but I just read this quote and reacted to it. Is this how his motivational speaks are too?

"With the ball we are making chances, so let's go and get through this tie and then we can look forward to Swansea."

"We are making chances, so let's go"? What kind of a stupid statement is that from a manager with a team that has conceded an average of a silly amount of goals all season, and allowed the opponent to an average of a silly amount x a silly amount of chances each game? How about sorting out that defence?

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11676/7338945/

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Well that is great! Rovers and apparently Sky can stop us taking banners into games in which we feature but if Rovers fans took them to any event they go----- concerts and the like, that would have the effect of turning Kean into an even bigger

figure of fun and would help get the message through to the rest of the media and, in the end, maybe even to Venkys. A very enjoyable way of protesting peacefully.

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Going to a couple of gigs this week...might just take along a banner lol.

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It's nice that the media are starting to turn on Kean, but I wonder what's caused it. It's not like a bunch of them suddenly thought "crikey, he actually is quite a bad manager isn't he?" .... that's been evident for months. Something's changed, they've all seemed to turn on him at once. Nice to see, but too late I fear.

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Good to see someone else picking up on Kean being totally useless. I love this bit:

It is a fact, for example, that Blackburn have amassed an average of 0.85 points per game under Kean's redoubtable stewardship. It is the lowest of any manager in the division; it is more than comfortably relegation form. "I disagree," said the Scot, when that statistic was put to him after defeat at Stoke on Saturday.

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even in defeat, Kean, like all great propagandists, can find a crumb of comfort. "If you look at the stats there are only three other teams in the Premier League that have got more points than ourselves from a losing position," he declared this week. It sounds like an achievement; in a sense, it probably is an achievement. It is, though, an entirely irrelevant one.

The guy is in complete denial and the press are finally picking up on it.

Do you think it would be worth sending this link, plus the link to the Guardian Football Podcast to Venky's, so they can see and hear for themselves what the English press are saying about their boy?

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It's nice that the media are starting to turn on Kean, but I wonder what's caused it. It's not like a bunch of them suddenly thought "crikey, he actually is quite a bad manager isn't he?" .... that's been evident for months. Something's changed, they've all seemed to turn on him at once. Nice to see, but too late I fear.

TBH I have been hounding the press for a couple of months, and over the last 10 days especially, I'm now in daily contact with many who are very sympathetic to our cause, and have had many long conversations with various Journo's as I felt they was not putting the right message out to why so many supporters were unhappy.

I have tried to make the point that although there has not been mass numbers on protest, this does not mean supporters are happy, I have pointed them to websites like this and other network sites such as the facebook group which has over 1600 members. I have also pointed out the type of things which has upset supporters including the constant divide Kean install with his comments, and the unrealistic things he says in press conferences.

Its been apparent for weeks that this would turn into a media war as not enough supporters have shown their unhappiness at games, and that statistic he has been pulling that the majority support him, has to be pulled apart by showing the press evidence of supporters sites pointing to the opposite. The BBC, Telegraph and The Sun are being extra helpful as is Radio Lancashire.

We need to keep the pressure on, some feel we are not achieving much, but I don't agree with that, I think we have made giant strides and there will be a lot more articles hitting the press as the week goes on

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TBH I have been hounding the press for a couple of months, and over the last 10 days especially, I'm now in daily contact with many who are very sympathetic to our cause, and have had many long conversations with various Journo's as I felt they was not putting the right message out to why so many supporters were unhappy.

I have tried to make the point that although there has not been mass numbers on protest, this does not mean supporters are happy, I have pointed them to websites like this and other network sites such as the facebook group which has over 1600 members. I have also pointed out the type of things which has upset supporters including the constant divide Kean install with his comments, and the unrealistic things he says in press conferences.

Its been apparent for weeks that this would turn into a media war as not enough supporters have shown their unhappiness at games, and that statistic he has been pulling that the majority support him, has to be pulled apart by showing the press evidence of supporters sites pointing to the opposite. The BBC, Telegraph and The Sun are being extra helpful as is Radio Lancashire.

We need to keep the pressure on, some feel we are not achieving much, but I don't agree with that, I think we have made giant strides and there will be a lot more articles hitting the press as the week goes on

Well done on hammering the point home to them fella, though it shouldn't have taken badgering for the press to see something so incredibly obvious. I suppose for the majority (excluding Henry Winter particularly) unless they're really pushed they just don't care enough about little old Rovers to do the proper research.

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TBH I have been hounding the press for a couple of months, and over the last 10 days especially, I'm now in daily contact with many who are very sympathetic to our cause, and have had many long conversations with various Journo's as I felt they was not putting the right message out to why so many supporters were unhappy.

I have tried to make the point that although there has not been mass numbers on protest, this does not mean supporters are happy, I have pointed them to websites like this and other network sites such as the facebook group which has over 1600 members. I have also pointed out the type of things which has upset supporters including the constant divide Kean install with his comments, and the unrealistic things he says in press conferences.

Its been apparent for weeks that this would turn into a media war as not enough supporters have shown their unhappiness at games, and that statistic he has been pulling that the majority support him, has to be pulled apart by showing the press evidence of supporters sites pointing to the opposite. The BBC, Telegraph and The Sun are being extra helpful as is Radio Lancashire.

We need to keep the pressure on, some feel we are not achieving much, but I don't agree with that, I think we have made giant strides and there will be a lot more articles hitting the press as the week goes on

Keep up the good work. Thanks.

Ironically Steve Kean with his inane comments, especially as we are now rooted at the bottom of the PL, is also helping the anti-Kean movement and giving the Journos some quite amazingly stupid quotes to use against him.

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