[Archived] Steve Kean Thread (Poll reset after Stoke game)

[ABBEY]

Ok all the new found kean lovers , this isn't a high horse post by the way.

How have kean and our pin up girl improved us ?

I've asked lots of times , hell I even started a thread about it!

[philipl]

With Banks, it's all about risk.

The riskier the business, the more security they want and the higher the interest rate.

At a guess, they'll want better than 50% LVR, as Ewood would not be worth that much as a going concern (if football were not being played there).

They cannot use Ewood- the Venky's London debt is secured against all Rovers' physical assets so it is already pledged out of existance so far as the club is concerned.

In terms of us being split, the current vote is

Sack 701

Temporarily Back 5

That is a bit like saying we are split between the people who think the world is round and those convinced that it is flat (about 0.5% of the population at any one time are flat earthers...)

[Tom]

Unfortunately it's working both ways, with those against the protest popping up again after the result on Saturday. As Glen said in his recent blog post, we need to find a way to move forward together.

That's all well and good but didn't Glen himself come on here either Saturday night or Sunday morning and have a bit of a dig at those not protesting?

Surely that kind of thing from one of the protest organisers and someone with some sway in some quarters is potentially divisive?

I don't blame him nor anyone, the fact is this is a highly emotionally charged time and people are getting upset about differing views, I can't see an easy way out from there

Den - you are right about that I'm not quite sure why some polls are open and some closed

[m0r94n]

That's all well and good but didn't Glen himself come on here either Saturday night or Sunday morning and have a bit of a dig at those not protesting?

Surely that kind of thing from one of the protest organisers and someone with some sway in some quarters is potentially divisive?

I don't blame him nor anyone, the fact is this is a highly emotionally charged time and people are getting upset about differing views, I can't see an easy way out from there

I may be wrong but I believe Glens "rant" the other day was aimed at those who would talk up the protests but never actively engage in the marches or demonstrations.

[booth]

That's all well and good but didn't Glen himself come on here either Saturday night or Sunday morning and have a bit of a dig at those not protesting?

Surely that kind of thing from one of the protest organisers and someone with some sway in some quarters is potentially divisive?

I don't blame him nor anyone, the fact is this is a highly emotionally charged time and people are getting upset about differing views, I can't see an easy way out from there

It is indeed, but there are a few members of this board who are just on the wind up. I don't believe it's really their views at all. You will know the ones I'm talking about, and for me it's them that ruin the board at times and descend it into backbiting and sniping. I'd be very surprised if they are Rovers fans at all.

Mr Tomkiss, although I disagree with him, obviously thinks Kean will turn it around. I've had disagreements with members like Magical Mortens and Imy but at least they are genuine. The likes of them are not the people I'm talking about.

[eire3382]

Firstly this naming and shaming is bull everyone can and should have an opinion.

Second can we the fans stop this fighting, this is what everyone else (kean, Venkys and media) wants. Regardless of which side of the Kean devide you are on its the fans that will be here to pick up the pieces when he is gone.

My feelings on kean are known as are many others (can't stand the fool) but the fan base has never all agreed on the manager (I thought Sam did a fantastic job whereas some others never wanted him near the club).

I think polls are just causing more issues on this site and they are achieving nothing. What will is protesting as loud as possible and for as long as possible because they can't ignore it no matter how hard they try.

Those against protesting fair enough just don't attack those who do and vice versa. Christ this club is in a mess top to bottom!

No one can argure that our club would be far better off if the trust were still around and thats a fact!

Mp opinion Kean and venkys and anderson and the other clowns should leave where they are not welcome.

[47er]

yeti caling people out for being on 'their high horse', when he spends 99% of his time on here on some ethical posting crusade.

I've had him on ignore for months.

[booth]

I've had him on ignore for months.

Not much of a need, he only has a splurge on posting when Kean gets something (he thinks is) right.

So not very often at all.

There's more sightings of an actual Yeti in fact.

[Burrells Boy]

One ray of sunshine doesn't make a summer, just go with what little dignity thats left and don't forget the ruppees.

[beatrix]

People need to get back to basics, the venkys, Kean, new management etc are all here today gone tommorrow, the longstanding, longsuffering fans ie us

have been fans for up to 60 years in some cases. We are the soul of the club not the venkys and their hired helps.Jack Walker was one of us not just a

wealthy man, as in the poem written around the premier winning years he took us with him. The venkys are totally different and will probably soon be in

the past ( hopefully ). We need to focus on the wellbeing of the club in general and the financial situation in particular, we need sound financial

backers with the best interests of the club at heart not opportunists like venkys looking for a cut price deal in every situation. How we get there

is the problem, are there wealthy people out there who would back the club when needed ? with the right motives, does anyone know anybody who could help

Ive heard names mentioned on here Mr Currie etc, could they not be canvassed and encouraged to attend protest meetings ?

[mark1875]

I don't think it should be a secret vote, unless anybody is embarrassed or ashamed at what they have voted for or their reasons for voting for it?

However as adults, i think we should be able to respect each others choice and freedom to their opinion and their reasons (from those genuine enough to give them) no matter how much you think it's laughable.

No matter who the manager is, where we lie in the table, who the owners are, what division we are in or who we are linked with in the windows.. it will always court controversy and split people's opinions.

We cannot and will not agree on everything, we are all unique and have our own beliefs. None of us are right and none of us are wrong, others will think we are but as long as we genuinely believe what we put then that's our right.

702 - 5 tells us the majority are right, i believe this and have done for months. The 5 who voted differently will beg to differ - that is life.

As i think Tom was getting at, it isn't the naming that is the problem, its the shaming of people that is!

let's respect each others views and not play into Keans hands

COYB

[yeti-dog]

I've had him on ignore for months.

Having you ignoring me is like winning the Euromillions on a daily basis..

[booth]

Having you ignoring me is like winning the Euromillions on a daily basis..

With the amount of people that ignore you, you must feel like a zillionaire

[yeti-dog]

Not much of a need, he only has a splurge on posting when Kean gets something (he thinks is) right.

So not very often at all.

There's more sightings of an actual Yeti in fact.

Ironic then Booth that I believe he needs to go-still why let the facts get in the way of your mud-slinging.

[booth]

Ironic then Booth that I believe he needs to go-still why let the facts get in the way of your mud-slinging.

I'd say that you popping up whenever Mr Kean has a good week is more of a phenomena than irony.

As for the mud slinging, well I have to give you some back. You must be all out.

[yeti-dog]

In this case he has a point, what a joke it is 'naming and shaming' folk for having a contrary opinion

Thanks for that Tom.

Not surprised at the reaction of some others who seem to want to personalise everything.

Each to their own.

[PLJPB]

I think football wise Steve Kean style of football is the best we've played for a while, very easy on the eye and exciting. Yes we need to work on the back but I feel we're better than the teams against us. As for the protesting your creating a hostile atmosphere at ewood doing more harm than good.

Against Swansea we didn't have the ball long enough to play 'good' football. The stats I've seen range from us having 38% possession according to Sky to 45% according to BBC.

Swansea also had a much higher pass completion than us.

[mrtomkiss]

Against Swansea we didn't have the ball long enough to play 'good' football. The stats I've seen range from us having 38% possession according to Sky to 45% according to BBC.

Swansea also had a much higher pass completion than us.

I was talking in general over the season, to be honest I don't read or live by stats I go and enjoy a game of football like I have done with Blackburn for many years

[PLJPB]

I was talking in general over the season, to be honest I don't read or live by stats I go and enjoy a game of football like I have done with Blackburn for many years

Fair enough - football is all about opinions but I can honestly say that I have only enjoyed a very few games under Kean

[saosin]

Against Swansea we didn't have the ball long enough to play 'good' football. The stats I've seen range from us having 38% possession according to Sky to 45% according to BBC.

Swansea also had a much higher pass completion than us.

I was going to post something similar.

I'm all for doing what it takes to win games, but let's not kid ourselves that the performance against Swansea was anything else then resorting to a hoofball/set pieces gameplan in order to grind out a victory. I have no problem with this approach, but I am not confident Steve Kean can be successful with it against more physical sides than Swansea (especially considering the unbalanced squad he's assembled).

On another note, I have been trying to understand what the clown means with the phrase "what we're trying to do" , which is constantly repeated in interviews.

The objective remains unknown, but the method seems to be "trial and error".

[ABBEY]

With the amount of people that ignore you, you must feel like a zillionaire

stop quoting him

Ok all the new found kean lovers , this isn't a high horse post by the way.

How have kean and our pin up girl improved us ?

I've asked lots of times , hell I even started a thread about it!

[yeti-dog]

Against Swansea we didn't have the ball long enough to play 'good' football. The stats I've seen range from us having 38% possession according to Sky to 45% according to BBC.

Swansea also had a much higher pass completion than us.

Not disputing your figures although I think it ended up more like 55-45%.

What was interesting though was the press perception that we looked the more dangerous of the two sides. Swansea,for all their passing, were ultimately fairly toothless and the fact they scored two says more about our p**s-poor defence than their cutting edge.

[Rover_Shaun]

To 'the steve kean five' everyone is entitled to their opinion even if it is wrong

[den]

On another note, I have been trying to understand what the clown means with the phrase "what we're trying to do"

I guess he means that he's trying to assemble a squad that plays an attractive passing game.

Which is as good a reason to sack a manager of a PL club called Blackburn Rovers, as any.

[booth]

To 'the steve kean five' everyone is entitled to their opinion even if it is wrong

Sounds like a Jazz/Blues combo.