[Archived] Steve Kean Thread (Poll reset after Stoke game)

[imy9]

I asked the question this morning about Venkys wealth to Nick Harris on Twitter, this is the reply:

sportingintelligence @sportingintel

@imy1875 From what I researched, then saw + checked + based on indep analyis, I'm confident total family wealth/assets = billions

Money tied up in assets is a "reasonable assumption" according to Nicko.

[Steve Moss]

More chance of me n Gord having gay rumpypumpy than coco being fired

At the lunch hour, I'm toasting the pending passion of Abbey and Gord.

They might even make a film "Backburn Mountain".

[ABBEY]

though I know neither of you personally that is not a pretty picture!!!

He may not be pretty but I'm smoking hot!!

[Mattyblue]

Being asset rich means bugger all.

How much hard cash is Desai going to throw at a foreign football club is the question...

[roverandout]

up and running again, did anyone else have a problem with this board crashing?

[Amo]

up and running again, did anyone else have a problem with this board crashing?

Yup. I naturally assumed Kean hadn't been sacked.

[Pete1981]

reluctantnicko Alan Nixon

No surprise here. All Rovers decisions and business put back 24 hours. I give up with the speed these people work.

[gumboots]

Yup. I naturally assumed Kean hadn't been sacked.

didn't stop that6 little glimmer of hope going through me though.

[martypellowe]

reluctantnicko Alan Nixon

No surprise here. All Rovers decisions and business put back 24 hours. I give up with the speed these people work.

This is what I don't get. If Vinny is back and will supposedly be carrying out the instructions of the Family, why have decisions been put back 24 hours? Surely if there's a decision been made he is just delivering the message?

It all points to backing SK i'm afraid, the delays will no doubt be with agreeing sales of players, not as to the tenure of SK.

Oh and iirc Vinny is a nephew or something of the Raos. I think.

[Seggie]

I hope their having friends round again if Kean is still in charge for the Man U match

[PAFELL]

This is what I don't get. If Vinny is back and will supposedly be carrying out the instructions of the Family, why have decisions been put back 24 hours? Surely if there's a decision been made he is just delivering the message?

It all points to backing SK i'm afraid, the delays will no doubt be with agreeing sales of players, not as to the tenure of SK.

Oh and iirc Vinny is a nephew or something of the Raos. I think.

Maybe the replacement etc cannot get to ewood today etc.for some reason.

[martypellowe]

Maybe the replacement etc cannot get to ewood today etc.for some reason.

Clutching at straws much? Haha. Sorry I just sincerely doubt that he will be relieved of his duties.

If that were the case, give the squad the day off to celebrate. Not like they're in training much anyway by the look of them.

[chris]

I hope their having friends round again if Kean is still in charge for the Man U match

oh PLEEEEEASSSEEEE

welcome to reality Venkys, you showed faith in a man who is a completely deluded loon of a manager, "he's very positive" thats because he crap and pretends he's not.

###### hate Kean

[Tom]

Whatever, I think he'll be potted between now & Sunday.

But you put your own credibility on the line and said he'd be gone by last wednesday lunch

Nothing personal but 3 or 4 times you've said you've heard things and it always comes to nothing, I know this time its just a feeling but still

[martypellowe]

But you put your own credibility on the line and said he'd be gone by last wednesday lunch

Short of a players' revolution, he isn't going anywhere. Even then, you get the impression he's wearing dead man's boots. Only way he's leaving his cushty position is when he dies of old age on the job.

[yoda]

But you put your own credibility on the line and said he'd be gone by last wednesday lunch

If your signature didn't say Walt Disney after it, I would have said it was a cocco quote!

[Mattyblue]

Blummin eck Mercer, how many times is this now?

What's your Bookie saying?

[Pete1981]

Dont know if anyone has seen this in the comments section of the LT

This is the CURRENT situation at BRFC - the FACTS as I have been able to find them through my contacts in last few days (and its not all bad, just most of it) and infomation is now coming out of the club at a rate of knots - all you need are a few good contacts.

1 - J Anderson has NO dealings with the club nor does he hold any financial stake in the club

2 - S Kean does NOT hold any financial stake in the club nor does he have any connection with "Glasgow gangsters"

3 - Everyone connected to the club knows that Keans position at the club is untenable and he needs to go (the ONLY person backing him is Mrs D and this is because she is now good friends with his wife - NOT because she believes Kean is a good manager or whether he will turn it round).

4 - The players DO NOT think Kean is up to the job and believe his position at the club is untennable and want him gone and someone else to come in so we can all start pulling together in the same dirrection (thats verified from 5 different first team players all saying pretty much the same thing).

5 - In the last few months Kean and his wife have been going on monthly visits to Pune OFF THEIR OWN BACK not because Venkys have been ordering them to go.

6 - The club have put feelers out to Mark Huhes and have had a response, he's quite keen to help out but IS wary of the Venkys.

7 - This approach to MH was done by the directors/advisors including the 2 Venky indian reps who come over for the games and NOT Venkys themselves. The directors/advisors/2 Indian Venkys reps are trying to move the situation along so WHEN they do pursaude Mrs D that you have to distance your friendship/managersh

ip and the 2 things can't go together and that he has to be sacked then they can move quickly.

8 - These new Israelli advisors are giving the Venkys GOOD, SOUND (football) ADVICE unlike all previous advice from JA and SK.

9 - Venkys like watching the games in Pune all together and don't still understand the need to come to live games and havent much intention of changing the way they watch Rovers.

10 - Venkys are really keen to watch games and enjoy supporting Rovers but don't seem to understand (even now) the full implications when we go down - ie how many players will leave, how much revenue will be reduced and how little coverage the championship gets compared to the premiership) - this remains one of the core problems the advisors/directors are having getting the seriousness of the situation over to the Venkys.

2 - A agreement to sign Andy Johnson was completed in early December by all 3 parties but with the situation at the club I do not know if this transfer is still on course or whether Rovers/Johnson wants to reconsider

[JWUpper]

Dont know if anyone has seen this in the comments section of the LT

This is the CURRENT situation at BRFC - the FACTS as I have been able to find them through my contacts in last few days (and its not all bad, just most of it) and infomation is now coming out of the club at a rate of knots - all you need are a few good contacts.

1 - J Anderson has NO dealings with the club nor does he hold any financial stake in the club

2 - S Kean does NOT hold any financial stake in the club nor does he have any connection with "Glasgow gangsters"

3 - Everyone connected to the club knows that Keans position at the club is untenable and he needs to go (the ONLY person backing him is Mrs D and this is because she is now good friends with his wife - NOT because she believes Kean is a good manager or whether he will turn it round).

4 - The players DO NOT think Kean is up to the job and believe his position at the club is untennable and want him gone and someone else to come in so we can all start pulling together in the same dirrection (thats verified from 5 different first team players all saying pretty much the same thing).

5 - In the last few months Kean and his wife have been going on monthly visits to Pune OFF THEIR OWN BACK not because Venkys have been ordering them to go.

6 - The club have put feelers out to Mark Huhes and have had a response, he's quite keen to help out but IS wary of the Venkys.

7 - This approach to MH was done by the directors/advisors including the 2 Venky indian reps who come over for the games and NOT Venkys themselves. The directors/advisors/2 Indian Venkys reps are trying to move the situation along so WHEN they do pursaude Mrs D that you have to distance your friendship/managersh

ip and the 2 things can't go together and that he has to be sacked then they can move quickly.

8 - These new Israelli advisors are giving the Venkys GOOD, SOUND (football) ADVICE unlike all previous advice from JA and SK.

9 - Venkys like watching the games in Pune all together and don't still understand the need to come to live games and havent much intention of changing the way they watch Rovers.

10 - Venkys are really keen to watch games and enjoy supporting Rovers but don't seem to understand (even now) the full implications when we go down - ie how many players will leave, how much revenue will be reduced and how little coverage the championship gets compared to the premiership) - this remains one of the core problems the advisors/directors are having getting the seriousness of the situation over to the Venkys.

2 - A agreement to sign Andy Johnson was completed in early December by all 3 parties but with the situation at the club I do not know if this transfer is still on course or whether Rovers/Johnson wants to reconsider

Not all bad then, just need to hope Mrs.Kean makes a huge faux pax while away and ruins the friendship, then the new advisors get across the seriousness of relegation...simple realy

[John]

3 - Everyone connected to the club knows that Keans position at the club is untenable and he needs to go (the ONLY person backing him is Mrs D and this is because she is now good friends with his wife - NOT because she believes Kean is a good manager or whether he will turn it round).

5 - In the last few months Kean and his wife have been going on monthly visits to Pune OFF THEIR OWN BACK not because Venkys have been ordering them to go.

In late November, I posted that Mrs D & Kean's wife are quite close, it is an important factor in all this - think folk thought I was on the wind up.

[Jock]

Dont know if anyone has seen this in the comments section of the LT

This is the CURRENT situation at BRFC - the FACTS as I have been able to find them through my contacts in last few days (and its not all bad, just most of it) and infomation is now coming out of the club at a rate of knots - all you need are a few good contacts.

1 - J Anderson has NO dealings with the club nor does he hold any financial stake in the club

2 - S Kean does NOT hold any financial stake in the club nor does he have any connection with "Glasgow gangsters"

3 - Everyone connected to the club knows that Keans position at the club is untenable and he needs to go (the ONLY person backing him is Mrs D and this is because she is now good friends with his wife - NOT because she believes Kean is a good manager or whether he will turn it round).

4 - The players DO NOT think Kean is up to the job and believe his position at the club is untennable and want him gone and someone else to come in so we can all start pulling together in the same dirrection (thats verified from 5 different first team players all saying pretty much the same thing).

5 - In the last few months Kean and his wife have been going on monthly visits to Pune OFF THEIR OWN BACK not because Venkys have been ordering them to go.

6 - The club have put feelers out to Mark Huhes and have had a response, he's quite keen to help out but IS wary of the Venkys.

7 - This approach to MH was done by the directors/advisors including the 2 Venky indian reps who come over for the games and NOT Venkys themselves. The directors/advisors/2 Indian Venkys reps are trying to move the situation along so WHEN they do pursaude Mrs D that you have to distance your friendship/managersh

ip and the 2 things can't go together and that he has to be sacked then they can move quickly.

8 - These new Israelli advisors are giving the Venkys GOOD, SOUND (football) ADVICE unlike all previous advice from JA and SK.

9 - Venkys like watching the games in Pune all together and don't still understand the need to come to live games and havent much intention of changing the way they watch Rovers.

10 - Venkys are really keen to watch games and enjoy supporting Rovers but don't seem to understand (even now) the full implications when we go down - ie how many players will leave, how much revenue will be reduced and how little coverage the championship gets compared to the premiership) - this remains one of the core problems the advisors/directors are having getting the seriousness of the situation over to the Venkys.

2 - A agreement to sign Andy Johnson was completed in early December by all 3 parties but with the situation at the club I do not know if this transfer is still on course or whether Rovers/Johnson wants to reconsider

As long as Keans here so is Anderson.

[Mattyblue]

The future of an age old football instiution could be under threat due to the friendship between a middle aged Indian woman and the wife of our former first team coach.

What a basket case of a club.

[den]

As long as Keans here so is Anderson.

Correct.

[perthblue02]

Short of a players' revolution, he isn't going anywhere. Even then, you get the impression he's wearing dead man's boots. Only way he's leaving his cushty position is when he dies of old age on the job.

Thought the relationship between Kean and Mrs D was purely platonic

[Neil Weaver]

The way he talks is like no other team in the league has had any bad luck or injury problems.

There's been at least 3 instances I can remember this season where one of our players has fouled an opposition player in the box and it hasn't been given. It happened at Liverpool! You can't focus on one side of the luck coin without looking at the other, and regardless of what Kean says we've had plenty of fortune as well - which makes our position even worse, really.

I think it was on a podcast a while ago Kamy commented that whatever Kean says is aimed squarely at Mrs Chicken Overlord's ears. Remember she knows nothing about the game (in her own words), is sticking by him when everyone else has seen the light, and these sort of comments start to add up. Just had a look on the official site and today's top story is bemoaning injuries with the implication that we're the only club to have these things happen. Nobody this side of Pune can believe that.