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[Archived] Steve Kean Thread (Poll reset after Stoke game)


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  1. 1. Should Steve Kean be sacked



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"Venkys missed the boat big time on that one."

They were never interested in making the voyage and never have been. Only interested in carrying on in our rotten rowing boat with one oar missing, holed below the water line with Captain Calamity heading for the nearest iceberg.

Superb post +1.Captain Calamity great new name for Coco.

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It's been said before without doubt, but as I was talking about Steve Kean with my brother the other night (we talk about Kean a lot unfortunately), I came to the conclusion that one of my main gripes with the manager is that he must know that he's not up to the job, that he has no chance of leading this team to survival. We all say he's deranged (myself included) in our darker moments each week but in reality that's highly unlikely. What is far easier to imagine is that he's stealing a living at the moment and has no intention of going anywhere without being paid off. While almost every one of us would do the same thing in our own lives, none of us will ever become Premiership football managers nor be given obnoxious salary increases in spite of our horrendous job performance. As such, does the man really lack any shred of integrity? Under his stewardship the club is sliding into the abyss, wins at Old Trafford notwithstanding. He must see this - it's plainly obvious to everyone without a knowledge of the inner workings at Ewood (such as they are). Yet he remains in post, clearly without any intention of doing what is best for the club's future and handing in his resignation.

He clearly intends instead to milk the club of every last drop before finally skipping off to a decade of fleeting employment. That is exactly what awaits him after he's done with Blackburn Rovers, so tattered is his reputation. He may be receiving patronising phone calls from his peers telling him he's doing an excellent job (I bet Fergie's not been in touch again mind) and he may enjoy the apparent support of the majority of the nation's football fans, but from here on out there's not a chairman nor supporter who would want him as the manager of their team. That is entirely his own fault. Venky's erred by appointing him, that is beyond doubt but the team did, in fairness, survive under his leadership last season (a position we'd not have been anywhere near under a proper manager of course). At that point he could have quietly had his master, Jerome Anderson, negotiate a nice package before slipping away: job done, head held high, disaster averted. For all that Venky's have splurged on increasing the guy's bank balance since the last day of 2010/2011 (not to mention the cost of inevitable relegation in 2011/2012), that would have made perfect financial sense at the very least.

I've tried to avoid hating Steve Kean - a mere football manager - wishing to reserve that sort of emotion for the likes of David Norris, Gary Dobson or the guy dating the girl I'm in love with. His position as manager is owing entirely to the incompetence and stupidity of the owners. As far as I'm concerned they are the main problem. In recent weeks however Kean's belligerent attitude with regard to the club's loyal fans and his own record (his slight softening in the wake of the United game aside) has led me to seriously question both his character and worth as a human being.

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It's been said before without doubt, but as I was talking about Steve Kean with my brother the other night (we talk about Kean a lot unfortunately), I came to the conclusion that one of my main gripes with the manager is that he must know that he's not up to the job, that he has no chance of leading this team to survival. We all say he's deranged (myself included) in our darker moments each week but in reality that's highly unlikely. What is far easier to imagine is that he's stealing a living at the moment and has no intention of going anywhere without being paid off. While almost every one of us would do the same thing in our own lives, none of us will ever become Premiership football managers nor be given obnoxious salary increases in spite of our horrendous job performance. As such, does the man really lack any shred of integrity? Under his stewardship the club is sliding into the abyss, wins at Old Trafford notwithstanding. He must see this - it's plainly obvious to everyone without a knowledge of the inner workings at Ewood (such as they are). Yet he remains in post, clearly without any intention of doing what is best for the club's future and handing in his resignation.

He clearly intends instead to milk the club of every last drop before finally skipping off to a decade of fleeting employment. That is exactly what awaits him after he's done with Blackburn Rovers, so tattered is his reputation. He may be receiving patronising phone calls from his peers telling him he's doing an excellent job (I bet Fergie's not been in touch again mind) and he may enjoy the apparent support of the majority of the nation's football fans, but from here on out there's not a chairman nor supporter who would want him as the manager of their team. That is entirely his own fault. Venky's erred by appointing him, that is beyond doubt but the team did, in fairness, survive under his leadership last season (a position we'd not have been anywhere near under a proper manager of course). At that point he could have quietly had his master, Jerome Anderson, negotiate a nice package before slipping away: job done, head held high, disaster averted. For all that Venky's have splurged on increasing the guy's bank balance since the last day of 2010/2011 (not to mention the cost of inevitable relegation in 2011/2012), that would have made perfect financial sense at the very least.

I've tried to avoid hating Steve Kean - a mere football manager - wishing to reserve that sort of emotion for the likes of David Norris, Gary Dobson or the guy dating the girl I'm in love with. His position as manager is owing entirely to the incompetence and stupidity of the owners. As far as I'm concerned they are the main problem. In recent weeks however Kean's belligerent attitude with regard to the club's loyal fans and his own record (his slight softening in the wake of the United game aside) has led me to seriously question both his character and worth as a human being.

People are deluded, just because you think logically, doesn't mean everyone in the world doesn't believe the lies in their head

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People are deluded, just because you think logically, doesn't mean everyone in the world doesn't believe the lies in their head

I genuinely think he believes he's good enough, and just had some bad luck.

The master of self-belief and positivity.

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That's effectively saying that even with the dressing room he's a terrible manager.

Not sure that's what Lawro was going for, though.

I've been saying this for some time... I don't understand why people consider saying 'the players are behind him' as something positive. Surely if the players are behind him and we're still dreadful that just makes it worse?!

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It's been said before without doubt, but as I was talking about Steve Kean with my brother the other night (we talk about Kean a lot unfortunately), I came to the conclusion that one of my main gripes with the manager is that he must know that he's not up to the job, that he has no chance of leading this team to survival. We all say he's deranged (myself included) in our darker moments each week but in reality that's highly unlikely. What is far easier to imagine is that he's stealing a living at the moment and has no intention of going anywhere without being paid off. While almost every one of us would do the same thing in our own lives, none of us will ever become Premiership football managers nor be given obnoxious salary increases in spite of our horrendous job performance. As such, does the man really lack any shred of integrity? Under his stewardship the club is sliding into the abyss, wins at Old Trafford notwithstanding. He must see this - it's plainly obvious to everyone without a knowledge of the inner workings at Ewood (such as they are). Yet he remains in post, clearly without any intention of doing what is best for the club's future and handing in his resignation.

He clearly intends instead to milk the club of every last drop before finally skipping off to a decade of fleeting employment. That is exactly what awaits him after he's done with Blackburn Rovers, so tattered is his reputation. He may be receiving patronising phone calls from his peers telling him he's doing an excellent job (I bet Fergie's not been in touch again mind) and he may enjoy the apparent support of the majority of the nation's football fans, but from here on out there's not a chairman nor supporter who would want him as the manager of their team. That is entirely his own fault. Venky's erred by appointing him, that is beyond doubt but the team did, in fairness, survive under his leadership last season (a position we'd not have been anywhere near under a proper manager of course). At that point he could have quietly had his master, Jerome Anderson, negotiate a nice package before slipping away: job done, head held high, disaster averted. For all that Venky's have splurged on increasing the guy's bank balance since the last day of 2010/2011 (not to mention the cost of inevitable relegation in 2011/2012), that would have made perfect financial sense at the very least.

I've tried to avoid hating Steve Kean - a mere football manager - wishing to reserve that sort of emotion for the likes of David Norris, Gary Dobson or the guy dating the girl I'm in love with. His position as manager is owing entirely to the incompetence and stupidity of the owners. As far as I'm concerned they are the main problem. In recent weeks however Kean's belligerent attitude with regard to the club's loyal fans and his own record (his slight softening in the wake of the United game aside) has led me to seriously question both his character and worth as a human being.

You're speaking for me there!

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