[Archived] Steve Kean Thread (Poll reset after Stoke game)

[rovers11]

are you another kean apologist?

No, not at all. Despite the troubles, a good manager can still organise a team - Kean can't. I'm just giving the situation some context.

Here's a happy thought. If we stay up, will Kean get another improved contract?

It wouldn't surprise me if they extended the deal if we stay up. After all, the last new deal was only a payrise.

Here's an interesting thought. If we go down, many players have clauses in their contract meaning they will have their wages slashed. Will Kean's wages be slashed? Not a cat in hells chance!

[roverandout]

ok fair enough, having read your other posts i have a clearer picture!!!

[AllRoverAsia]

Here's a happy thought. If we stay up, will Kean get another improved contract?

Those loons in Pune will give Coco an improved contract when he takes us down. Mind you I doubt that Coco has explained to the loons that the bottom 3 get relegated in the PL at seasons end and that the gravy train stops.

[Tom]

To be honest, I remember this on here. Someone posted that he was in a certain restaraunt now and that someone living close to him might want to "pop down and have a chat", sort of thing.

Yep and if it was me and my family I wouldn't risk it even if it's most likely a joke.

Granted the best way to look after his families safety is walking away

[Rover_Shaun]

Granted the best way to look after his families safety is walking away

"I resign" is how a truly concerned family man deals with it

[Tom]

"I resign" is how a truly concerned family man deals with it

I did mean from the job not the restaurant just for clarification

[Waggy76]

He's a yes man. As I've said before, he knows he should never got a premiership managers job and never will again. Add to that his nice salary, he won't quit. And that's exactly the reason Venky's won't sack him. It would be difficult to find another manager who would be willing to accept managing a club the way rovers are run. Allardyce wouldn't have, and Venky's were made aware of this hence the reason he got booted before the Jan transfer window. The previous board were starting to ask serious questions (as we saw in the leaked letter) so they were binned.

That's true as well. He knows exactly what the owners plans are and they would sell our best players and push other players in. He seems happy to accept that. I'm sure he would have preferred to have had lots of money, be in control of transfers etc but beggars can't be choosers. He wouldn't be in a managers job if we had proper owners and he knows that.

Is that not asset stripping ?

[blue_n_white99]

And if Kean is happy to bend over and take that, whilst constantly directing any negative press onto his own fans, what does that say about him?

It says that he is a revolting little dog turd, but we knew that already, didn't we?

[rovers11]

Is that not asset stripping ?

It depends on how you look at it. From a football perspective, it is asset stripping. Replacing good players with inferior players. To the banks, owners and the fa it is seen as balancing the books. Venky's are putting the money made from sales back into the club by paying off bank loans, using a percentage to buy new players and cover operational costs. If they were selling off of players and not putting it back into the club then that is assert stripping and where the fa would look into it.

[Stuart]

Do we know that debts are being paid off?

[Andy]

"I resign" is how a truly concerned family man deals with it

I think it's not unfair to say that 'truly concerned family man' and 'Steve Kean' do not belong in the same sentence.

[thenodrog]

Steve Kean is being screwed over by the owners. There is no way he wanted to get rid of Samba or Nelsen. They would both be in the team if Kean had control over these things. Did Kean want to sign half of the players that he has signed? Absolutely not. They have been forced upon him - Rochina, Yak, Formica, Anderson, Ribiero, etc. The club is run by agents who venky's use. It used to be Anderson, now it's Zahavi.

Screwed over by the owners, hated by the fans, unfairly treated by local MP's, targetted by the MWay Traffic police...... He must be a saint for continuing to manage BRFC under such conditions.

Cant think why he doesn't just resign.

Or can I?

[rovers11]

Do we know that debts are being paid off?

99% sure. I think Barclay were threatening to cut off our overdraft if a substantial amount wasn't paid off. Without the overdraft, wages wouldn't be paid as that covers the shortfall until sky money is received. Wages have been paid and the bank are happy - Barclays would leak it out if they hadn't been paid.

You can never be 100% sure until the official accounts are released. I would imagine the next round of accounts will look pretty healthy (if we stay up). Wages bill slashed, debt extremely low, net in terms of transfer fees. These are business people and not football people.

[Mercer]

There are no reports of Kean having been personally confronted.

There have, however, been reports of Kean confronting a Sky journalist in a German hotel after a C.L. match in a very aggressive way.

The seeming hypocrisy of it all.

As someone pointed out earlier in this thread, I recall seeing first on Twitter the name of the restaurant where Kean was supposedly dining at the time and how appropriate was the name !!! My take on it at the time was that is was a bit of jovial banter with no real maliciousness.

Kean's concerns, IMO, pale into insignificance when you recall the treatment Jimmy Mullen and his wife received in his latter Burnley days including some idiot setting fire to his wife's dress in a restaurant if I recall correctly.

Again, as someone has pointed out in this thread, what real family man would put his family through what Kean tells us he is doing. Think it tells us all we need to know.

[47er]

I don't know why he even bothered to try and make Samba's transfer into a positive.

It's obvious that selling Samba has significantly weakend our squad and has been nothing but a huge dent in our survival chances.

We are odds-on to go through the entire season without a clean sheet I'd guess.

[Gamst]

If you were a true family man you wouldn't go to the media with it several months later to antagonise your potential attackers.

[Rovermatt]

In some respects Kean is looking out for his family. His future will be punctuated by mere fleeting employment, such is the state of his reputation (his fellow pros can pat him on the head as much as he likes, they all know he's shockingly out of his depth). He's been involved in getting his last boss sacked to get his own hands on a job he clearly feels entitled to (a job he has consistently failed to perform in), he's helped his agent to get his claws into the fabric of the Premiership club he is purportedly managing and he is quite clearly up to his neck in a rather blatant asset-stripping exercise, serving - at minimum - as the facilitator and 'yes man' for the despicable fools in India.

Those jobs he does get will be relatively obscure and the remuneration will be nowhere near the levels on the gravy train he's currently riding. Money in da bank.

[Tom]

Yep, be hated for a couple of years while setting yourself up for life after it all, he has no loyalty to the fans and most people look out for number one.

[Amo]

I'm considering my own stand against Kean by abstaining from this site until he's gone.

I don't know, though. It might have the counter-effect of flocking more to his cause.

[tomphil]

In some respects Kean is looking out for his family. His future will be punctuated by mere fleeting employment, such is the state of his reputation (his fellow pros can pat him on the head as much as he likes, they all know he's shockingly out of his depth). He's been involved in getting his last boss sacked to get his own hands on a job he clearly feels entitled to (a job he has consistently failed to perform in), he's helped his agent to get his claws into the fabric of the Premiership club he is purportedly managing and he is quite clearly up to his neck in a rather blatant asset-stripping exercise, serving - at minimum - as the facilitator and 'yes man' for the despicable fools in India.

Those jobs he does get will be relatively obscure and the remuneration will be nowhere near the levels on the gravy train he's currently riding. Money in da bank.

Could not have put it any better myself. I loath this bloke more than i loath my ex mrs and that is saying something after the asset stripping job she pulled on me lol.

[Gav]

There are no reports of Kean having been personally confronted.

There have, however, been reports of Kean confronting a Sky journalist in a German hotel after a C.L. match in a very aggressive way.

The seeming hypocrisy of it all.

Spot on mercer, its unbelievable that people buy into this sob stories

Someone should list his bullsh*t he’s spouted in its entirety over the past 12months, then again maybe not I don’t think I could take it

[Neil Weaver]

Someone should list his bullsh*t he’s spouted in its entirety over the past 12months

Courtesy of krypton1980 I think

then again maybe not I don’t think I could take it

Oops, restrain yourself Gav

[Stuart]

Just been watching a programme on Sky Sports 3 called "Football's Greatest Managers"...

...Kean wasn't in it.

[gumboots]

Just been watching a programme on Sky Sports 3 called "Football's Greatest Managers"...

...Kean wasn't in it.

But he could have been if Alex Ferguson and Matt Busby along with Clough and Shankly hadn't been ahead of him.

[Stuart]

But he could have been if Alex Ferguson and Matt Busby along with Clough and Shankly hadn't been ahead of him.

:lol: Quality gumboots!