[Archived] Steve Kean Thread (Poll reset after Stoke game)

[47er]

Exactly,just more of the same shyte on and off the field of play if we do survive by the skin of our teeth....can anyone take another season of this guff?

Whatever happens in the future I could never support this manager. I could never trust him, he's a proven liar and I'll never forget or forgive the media manipulation from Kean and his agent which have split the club apart.

No respect for his own fans = no respect for him. EVER!!

[Steve Moss]

But it changes nothing. Kean is a moron, a weasel and is unbelievably incompetent at doing his job.

If we stay up, it's in spite of Kean, not because of him.

+1

[SAS]

A corker from The Observer's match report:

There really are some naive/###### journalists out there!!

Research before you make a claim !!!!

[RoyRover]

I was talking to someone today, who loves to wind me up about Kean, and said "Well, he's got to learn somewhere."

You learn the game in the lower leagues or after you've been assistant manager for some time. You don't just get a job in the Premiership when you've been a coach. Unless you have one hell of an agent...

We should not be Steve Kean's experiment, where he gets to see what he can do, what works, what doesn't and how a football club runs. Sadly, the press, pundits and other fans don't seem to see this. As someone else pointed out, it's amazing that journalists and pundits can be so short sighted when it comes to one off games and can't see the bigger picture ie. the last 18 months where Steve Kean has ruined a club.

[eire3382]

After watching the match on sky last night I found it very hard to enjoy the match and it is only now I know why.

The camera kept going to the bald moron and everytime I see his ugly mug I get angry.

Yesterdays match was simply a battle between the two worst managers in the league, period!

I can't listen to his bull any longer but having to look at him during the match is just cruel.

As for chanting for Jack, it will be a cold day in hell I would ever chant that fools name.

He deserves nothing but contempt from every rovers fan. He is a foul creature whos only strength is spinning a web of crap and convincing the idiot media /press. It won't be fun supporting rovers until he is removed from his position.

[s_simpson_9]

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Enjoyed the victory today, sweeter considering we have not won much this season. Be interesting to see how we have performed with Black as number 2.

Mauled by City, barcodes and L'arse. QPR win. Villa draw. Wolves win. Was he there for the draw with Everton?

[Mattyblue]

Says a lot for Kean that we always end up discussing the impact (or not) of the latest assistant at the BRFC asylum.

[Rovermatt]

I was talking to someone today, who loves to wind me up about Kean, and said "Well, he's got to learn somewhere." Even though I know he was taking the ######, that's how the media see it. Apparently the club is here for Steve Kean's convenience and not the other way around.

Indeed. Isn't Kean on record somewhere saying he deserves this job?

[Mattyblue]

Indeed. Isn't Kean on record somewhere saying he deserves this job?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2086359/Steve-Kean-interview-Matt-Lawton.html

I’ve paid my dues, and if you’ve done that you deserve a go at it.

[greco]

It's amazing that pundits and journos who are paid to discuss and/or have played the game are so short sighted/ignorant, whilst your 'fickle fan' can actually see the big picture and not look at things on a game by game basis.

you are not supposed to have an opinion matty, you are just a mere fan. In the eyes of the media, the alcoholic pundits and what not, we are supposed to support these shysters blindly.

im amazed by the general stupidity, that ive come across in the english journalist world, when it comes to premier league football. Actually, when i come to think about it, im ecstatic that the danish media doesnt "act" as idiotic as yours.

These old timers are past it and come from a different era, nowadays fans/supporters whatever you wanna call it, dont just blindly follow their clubs. Imo thats due to the vast amount of money people spend on their team. who would want to throw money at something they dont believe in and its about time these old media farts realized that.

[Rovermatt]

He's had a go and he's been found wanting.

Edit: Thank you Majiball.

[Majiball]

He's had a go and he's been found wanting.

[RevidgeBlue]

So to play devil's advocate, if we and Kean survive this season and then hypothetically were to kick on and do well next season and subsequently would people actually be disappointed we were doing well with him (and the owners) at the helm?

[Mattyblue]

So to play devil's advocate, if we and Kean survive this season and then hypothetically were to kick on and do well next season and subsequently would people actually be disappointed we were doing well with him (and the owners) at the helm?

Not at all, I fully expect him to be manager next season and to remain unsackable even if we do struggle again, so why not hope against hope that he improves?

[Andy]

So to play devil's advocate, if we and Kean survive this season and then hypothetically were to kick on and do well next season and subsequently would people actually be disappointed we were doing well with him (and the owners) at the helm?

Of course not - if we're doing well, then all Rovers fans will be happy.

However, Kean will never be accepted at this club, irrespective of position and performance.

[chaddyrovers]

Mauled by City, barcodes and L'arse. QPR win. Villa draw. Wolves win. Was he there for the draw with Everton?

Yes I think so!!!

[Tugay-is-God]

A corker from The Observer's match report:

That was the way of it for the most part, thud and blunder, and the home crowd became increasingly disgruntled. The Blackburn fans, as is their habit, chanted the name of their late benefactor, Jack Walker, rather than saluting Kean, which is beginning to seem a mite unfair.

Well they've left that out of the print edition.

[Majiball]

So to play devil's advocate, if we and Kean survive this season and then hypothetically were to kick on and do well next season and subsequently would people actually be disappointed we were doing well with him (and the owners) at the helm?

To be fair they'll have to do more than one season worth of goodness to eliminate all the deeds done so far. Proven, established premier league club going no where, to one of the worst run/playing teams in the league. I'd want more than one season and if being honest I'd just think they'd flog our best players that season for what they can get and sign some more kids, rolling the dice yet again. It'll take more than one season for me to forget the journey so far.

[greco]

So to play devil's advocate, if we and Kean survive this season and then hypothetically were to kick on and do well next season and subsequently would people actually be disappointed we were doing well with him (and the owners) at the helm?

nobody would be dissapointed if we do well, but make no mistake about it, there will always be complaints, just as there was under the previous regime.

if your girlfriend had broken promise after promise and dished out lie after lie, would you immediately warm to her, just because she all of a sudden was nice.? imo no, it would take time, some forgive faster then others and given venkeans trackrecord, its gonna take alot of succes to set that record straight.

in this hypothetical scenario, could you define doing good..? is it surviving, top 10.? semi in a cup plus respectable league postion.? euro league.?

[Stuart]

Three things about a manager, in order of priority:

Does he consistently get results?

Does he command respect, even grudgingly?

Is he likeable?

We really got the brown end of the stick, didn't we?

[yoda]

Three things about a manager, in order of priority:

Does he consistently get results?

Does he command respect, even grudgingly?

Is he likeable?

We really got the brown end of the stick, didn't we?

Runt of the litter more like

[gumboots]

Total disrespect is not easily forgotten and that's what we've had from Kean and Venkys. He could keep us up before christmas next season; we could go on a cup run in both competitions and play the most amazing football, and, whilst I might accept him, I could never warm to him. He has burnt too many bridges with fans, told too many lies, caused too many divides to ever be someone I'd want managing my football club. However, if the media reckon that Kean is now winning over fans and has weathered the storm or whatever, then why the heck are we still paying for him to have a bodyguard, with all that suggests about our behaviour?

[Amo]

So to play devil's advocate, if we and Kean survive this season and then hypothetically were to kick on and do well next season and subsequently would people actually be disappointed we were doing well with him (and the owners) at the helm?

I love how these questions pop up when Kean scabs a win.

I'll humour you: Yes. Football fans are the most fickle people in the world. They wouldn't necessarily warm to Steve Kean, but if he got results, they'd be willing to overlook much of what's happened in the past.

Now that's over with, can we return to planet Earth please?

[Steve Moss]

Of course not - if we're doing well, then all Rovers fans will be happy.

However, Kean will never be accepted at this club, irrespective of position and performance.

+1

[Pitty]

It would be interesting if the poll was reset again now and to see if the sack vote would be as high as it is at the moment, I would still vote yes for kean to be sacked still.