[Archived] Steve Kean Thread (Poll reset after Stoke game)

[Amo]

Typing at work.

Doesn't Steve give you a lunch break?

Obviously typos negates all my arguments.

No, but it backfires on you when you're trying to undermine someone.

Where I make mistakes in spelling, you make mistakes when it comes to defining words. Please look up troll. Having an avatar that is in no way offensive and something I never discuss unless people raise it is not trolling. Someone had an avatar of Grabbi. That's worse.

A troll is someone who makes deliberate attempts to provoke members.

Like every one of your posts within the last hour.

[BRFC95]

Please don't quote the fool

[braddock]

Doesn't Steve give you a lunch break?

No, but it backfires on you when you're trying to undermine someone.

A troll is someone who makes deliberate attempts to provoke members.

Like every one of your posts within the last hour.

Provoke discussion by stating my points, which I believe.

Stephen (I think this is how this board knows him half the time isn't it?) says we don't need breaks but there's booze on tap.

[ABBEY]

He'll be excited to have the job of course.

But to say he's had no pressure is ridiculous. Even if he's had none from the owners (which I doubt, though I was surprised to see him still in charge after the first mass booing/kean out/banner and flag show at Ewood) he was ridiculed by the press for quite some time, especially fatty's chums. They've come round though, because looking in you can see the players still play for him, people can see we play some nice football at times (N'Zonzi has started passing forward - we've got Hoilett running with the ball as opposed to jumping for it - he's brought in some quality with Yakubu in front of goal) and he has acted with dignity where it has mattered.

I can understand the complaints against Venky's, but against Kean, a man who everyone says is absolutely terrible, he's doing a great job to keep us out of the relegation zone when it matters (thus far). As for what he says, did you ever listen to the tripe Allardyce came out with. He was as much as propaganda machine as Kean.

THE DRUGS IN SPRING ST MUST CHEAP AND STRONG AGAIN

[braddock]

THE DRUGS IN SPRING ST MUST CHEAP AND STRONG AGAIN

Ah, a man who works on prejudices. Wonderful, do join the conversation.

[OJRovers]

Hypothetically, IF we are safe after the last home game of the season (Wigan), will there be a big KEAN AND VENKYS OUT protest? We need big changes in the summer, we can't go through another season like this.

Will Kean do the lap of honour with the players? After all he has said that the "majority" of fans support him.

[Kelbo]

He's doing a great job for a man with no experience, apparently sub zero money and shocking fans, yes.

Do you disagree on that point?

I'll have a pint of what youre on, make that four, I was like you after my first pint!!

[ABBEY]

Ah, a man who works on prejudices. Wonderful, do join the conversation.

What are going on about?

[Rovermatt]

shocking fans, yes.

Shocking fans?! (Please don't use that word again) you...

The idiots on The Guardian rumble on:

I think you need a little expectation management - plus I would really really love to hear what your ideal scenario would be?

So Kean goes and your ready made replacement is......?!

Wolves are really loving that scenario.

Nelsen - frankly no loss as his legs went years ago and unless you have speedy full backs to cover for him (whcih we don't) was a bit of a liability - great player 3 years ago but not now. Spurs have bought him for emergency cover - we can't afford to have that sort of salary on the bench, and he's never going to be a regular with his record.

If you seperate Kean from the owners for a minute.....Kean is definitely on an upward curve - he was dire at the start and I was all for sacking him back then, but being in the crowd at the Bolton game - and watching how the players played for him changed my opinion - as well as those two self serving tw@ts who are "running" the anti campaign.

I like Vucekcic but he's a bit of a luxury player and with the Yak, Formica, Dunny etc how many can we carry?

Swallow your pride and move on. Hate the owners but Kean has got a great reputation as a coach, and now might be building a managerial one slowly.

[eire3382]

He's doing a great job for a man with no experience, apparently sub zero money and shocking fans, yes.

Do you disagree on that point?

Where to begin with you.

First your blind support of the worst manager in the football league is your business.

To be fair most on this board gave kean a chance.

I gave him up to the end of the summer transfer window like he asked.

My opinion of the bald fool is that he will never ever be a manager of any standing in the game above league 1.

His lies have caught up with him and very few fans are blind to that now.

He is the medias darling but I believe that is more to do with his agents than anything else.

Now as for your attacks on everyone on this board we are all entitled to our opinions and most agree about kean.

This is a place of discussion not somewhere to attack other opinions.

What I have stated above is my opinion and you will not change that. Hell the lord almighty could not change it.

You can believe what you like and I will discuss the issue with you but you have to also be open to the fact that others don't have to agree with you. Most never will.

For what its worth it is probably a good time for a poll on kean but something like can he keep us up.

[braddock]

Where to begin with you.

First your blind support of the worst manager in the football league is your business.

To be fair most on this board gave kean a chance.

I gave him up to the end of the summer transfer window like he asked.

My opinion of the bald fool is that he will never ever be a manager of any standing in the game above league 1.

His lies have caught up with him and very few fans are blind to that now.

He is the medias darling but I believe that is more to do with his agents than anything else.

Now as for your attacks on everyone on this board we are all entitled to our opinions and most agree about kean.

This is a place of discussion not somewhere to attack other opinions.

What I have stated above is my opinion and you will not change that. Hell the lord almighty could not change it.

You can believe what you like and I will discuss the issue with you but you have to also be open to the fact that others don't have to agree with you. Most never will.

For what its worth it is probably a good time for a poll on kean but something like can he keep us up.

1. The start would be the most logical, unless you intend on wrapping your points around each other.

2. He isn't worse than Ince so that's at least one he's better than.

3. I don't believe they gave him a fair chance. He was written off before having time to change the team away from big boot, then on his next chance when people were expecting mega bucks, he was written off because they weren't spent. Something he had no control over.

4. Your prerogative.

5. League 1 is specific. Why is this his peak? If Kean is so bad that's an insult to League 1.

6. He's putting forward as much propaganda as Allardyce and understands that with a young squad optimism and self belief is important - something continually destroyed by the fans. As for his opinion on what others think of him, I think it's in the interests of his mental health that he doesn't fully understand the level of idiocy of the Rovers fans, so that's fine by me.

7. Your belief is your prerogative but it's strange that he was largely ridiculed in the press when signing to the end of last season. Someone told them back then that he was already in bed with them.

8. I'm sharing my opinion and I think it's fair to say that there are a large amount of protesters who would be under the national average when it comes to IQ and when they personally attack staff at the club and potentially derail the team (regardless of whether they feel staff at the club are doing the very same) then I offer them no respect.

9. Ah, are you religious? See point 8.

10. Thank you for saying you will allow my opinion. All I've done is put it forward. I've hardly been tearing down the board insulting people's mothers. I think you are blowing the manner in which I post out of proportion.

11. A good time for a poll is after a draw, and only leave it open until just before the next game. There's so many opinions it seems crazy to have a poll last so long.

[Pedro]

Where to begin with you.

First your blind support of the worst manager in the football league is your business.

To be fair most on this board gave kean a chance.

I gave him up to the end of the summer transfer window like he asked.

My opinion of the bald fool is that he will never ever be a manager of any standing in the game above league 1.

His lies have caught up with him and very few fans are blind to that now.

He is the medias darling but I believe that is more to do with his agents than anything else.

Now as for your attacks on everyone on this board we are all entitled to our opinions and most agree about kean.

This is a place of discussion not somewhere to attack other opinions.

What I have stated above is my opinion and you will not change that. Hell the lord almighty could not change it.

You can believe what you like and I will discuss the issue with you but you have to also be open to the fact that others don't have to agree with you. Most never will.

For what its worth it is probably a good time for a poll on kean but something like can he keep us up.

Do you genuinely feel that his agent has mind control over all of the ex-pros etc. who pat Kean on the back?

I'm not saying they are right or wrong, but I think that this far flung theory that anything positive said or thought about Kean via media land or the LMA is the work of his agent. I personally think he must have a bloody thick skin and be a resiliant b'stardo because fair play to him - like it or not - Rovers are now outperforming those around them in the ###### and look the least likely to go down out of those at the bottom. All that with selling the better/experienced players too in very uncertain circumstances - yet some claim he is the worst manager in all of the leagues!?

[Majiball]

Do you genuinely feel that his agent has mind control over all of the ex-pros etc. who pat Kean on the back?

I'm not saying they are right or wrong, but I think that this far flung theory that anything positive said or thought about Kean via media land or the LMA is the work of his agent. I personally think he must have a bloody thick skin and be a resiliant b'stardo because fair play to him - like it or not - Rovers are now outperforming those around them in the ###### and look the least likely to go down out of those at the bottom. All that with selling the better/experienced players too in very uncertain circumstances - yet some claim he is the worst manager in all of the leagues!?

Manager

As of 10 March 2012.[13]

Total GP56 W15 W14 L27 26.79%

All hail keano the magnificent!!!!!

Pretty soon the little bugger will be as good as Ince!!

GP21 W6 D4 L11 28.57%

I can't wait for that day.

[BPF]

We win and up pops Braddock. The very definition of an internet troll.

[Pedro]

Manager

As of 10 March 2012.[13]

Total GP56 W15 W14 L27 26.79%

All hail keano the magnificent!!!!!

Pretty soon the little bugger will be as good as Ince!!

GP21 W6 D4 L11 28.57%

I can't wait for that day.

That percentage is going up, wasn't it as low as 10% at one point?? I think that was around the time when the more informed said we'd finish the season with the lowest ever points tally etc. etc.

Like I've said all along, I think we'll scrape up this season and I've not seen anything to change my mind. It isn't going to be easy but I reckon three wins for us will just about do it.

[Mattyblue]

Ex pros/pundits don't slag off a manager outside the big clubs, The managerial job at say Chelsea or Liverpooll is different, they 'must' be challenging as they are national institutions we all care deeply about

At clubs like ours, a bloke line Stevie Kean is just learning his trade and 'deserves time' and fans to have 'realistic expectations'.

Of course, the useless manager is eventually sacked, the next bloke does a lot better and the very same pundits are concluding that 'they made the change at the right time'.

It's not a media conspiracy, but just the same old tripe they constantly spout, we've just had 15 months of it.

[jim mk2]

We win and up pops Braddock. The very definition of an internet troll.

....complete with embarrassing avatar. Why would anyone use a photo of that woman ?

[Majiball]

That percentage is going up, wasn't it as low as 10% at one point?? I think that was around the time when the more informed said we'd finish the season with the lowest ever points tally etc. etc.

Like I've said all along, I think we'll scrape up this season and I've not seen anything to change my mind. It isn't going to be easy but I reckon three wins for us will just about do it.

Unlucky.

Next!!!

[Stuart]

Braddock.

Ignoring everything that has gone before, every inciting statement, every untruth, every false promise, what evidence is there that Kean is, or ever will be a competent Premier League manager?

Forget changing the topic, turning the question around, just offer some evidence.

....complete with embarrassing avatar. Why would anyone use a photo of that woman ?

I'm sure you know the answer to that question, Jim.

[gumboots]

Oddly enough a guy I work with, been a Rovers fan for years, said perfectly seriously today, "If Kean keeps us up everyone will get behind him - he'll be appreciated by all rovers fans." I almost exploded which would have made a nasty mess of our nice new school. Soon put him right about what the majority actually think regardless of saturday's win.

[krypton1980]

Unlucky.

Next!!!

Actually those figures are out of date - Kean record is currently:

(didnt bother updating dalglish)

[Stuart]

Oddly enough a guy I work with, been a Rovers fan for years, said perfectly seriously today, "If Kean keeps us up everyone will get behind him - he'll be appreciated by all rovers fans." I almost exploded which would have made a nasty mess of our nice new school. Soon put him right about what the majority actually think regardless of saturday's win.

Was he wearing a T-Shirt with a photo of Mrs D from 1993 on it?

[BigAlan]

Ah, the good ol' "we win one game so Kean is great" nonsense. This fellow has had over 50 games in charge. He's had three transfer windows, he's spouted absolute garbage in justifying signings of some of utter tosspots (who I don't believe for one minute were his signings). We had our worst run in twenty five years, we have only just kept our first clean sheet after 31 games. We are still deep in another relegation battle, we have never won back to back league games under him. Some of our performance have been absolutely dire. I could be here all night continuing this list. He's not good, he never has been. We are lucky that there are some awful teams in and around us this season. If we stay up, i will be delighted but it's a mess he and his treacherous bosses have created. Forget all that though cos we won one game.

[Mattyblue]

"This season isn't about salvaging something, we've got the players to be in the top 10".

Steve Kean

November 2011

[braddock]

Braddock.

Ignoring everything that has gone before, every inciting statement, every untruth, every false promise, what evidence is there that Kean is, or ever will be a competent Premier League manager?

Forget changing the topic, turning the question around, just offer some evidence.

I'm sure you know the answer to that question, Jim.

He kept us in the league last year 'against all odds' and he's on course to do it again. I think that's evidence enough.