[Archived] Paul Ince

[ben_the_beast]

Couldn't find the old thread so feel free to move mods. (for some reason the search feature is not working for me)

But Oliver holt when talking about the "Rooney rule" has decided to bring up Ince's sacking again insinuating that the fact Ince is black was a factor in his sacking.

"Ince became the first black Premier League manager when he was made Blackburn boss in June 2008.

By then, he had worked a miracle by saving Macclesfield from relegation from League Two in 2006-07.

The following season, he had won promotion from the same division for MK Dons, who went up as champions.

But Blackburn only gave him 177 days in the job before they sacked him on December 16, 2008. The club was fourth from bottom."

It is also accompanied with quotes from Ince saying

"Sadly, my experience at Blackburn showed that there are double standards out there and that black coaches are treated differently."

I realize this was years ago now but the article and quotes within it really pi**ed me right off. Paul Ince and his mate Holt are a couple of ****s

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[chris]

Couldn't find the old thread so feel free to move mods. (for some reason the search feature is not working for me)

But Oliver holt when talking about the "Rooney rule" has decided to bring up Ince's sacking again insinuating that the fact Ince is black was a factor in his sacking.

"Ince became the first black Premier League manager when he was made Blackburn boss in June 2008.

By then, he had worked a miracle by saving Macclesfield from relegation from League Two in 2006-07.

The following season, he had won promotion from the same division for MK Dons, who went up as champions.

But Blackburn only gave him 177 days in the job before they sacked him on December 16, 2008. The club was fourth from bottom."

It is also accompanied with quotes from Ince saying

"Sadly, my experience at Blackburn showed that there are double standards out there and that black coaches are treated differently."

I realize this was years ago now but the article and quotes within it really pi**ed me right off. Paul Ince and his mate Holt are a couple of ****s

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Feel free to merge with previous thread mods

Jean Tigana must have owned a turbo sunbed then, I thought he was black

[chaddyrovers]

Paul Ince just wasn't good enough for rovers. his number 2 and first team coach just weren't good enough and not PL standard!!!

[frosty]

I could have sworn we were 19th?

[Balwer]

I could have sworn we were 19th?

This. Almost positive we were. And 3 or 4 points off safety after 17 games or so?

[John]

Thought we were 5 points off safety when Sam took over?

[DE.]

Holt and Ince just make themselves look stupid with quotes like that. Everybody knows Ince was sacked because he was bloody rubbish, it had nothing to do with the colour of his skin. If he believes that it was anything to do with his race then he's in denial about how poor of a job he did whilst he was here, and if Holt believes we sacked him faster because he was black then ... well, it doesn't matter because nobody takes him seriously anyway

[chaddyrovers]

I could have sworn we were 19th?

we were for sure. going down with Ince in charge.

[frosty]

13 points from 17 games I think. On a run of 3 points from 11 games.

[BuckyRover]

Jean Tigana must have owned a turbo sunbed then, I thought he was black

That's a very good point. He's originally from Mali

[John]

"@DickinsonTimes: Ince tells @OllieHoltMirror that his Blackburn demise proof of 'double standards' re black coaches. Suspect 3 wins in 17 games didn't help"

[chaddyrovers]

look at Matt dickinson having a go at Holt for the ince article

Ince tells @OllieHoltMirror that his Blackburn demise proof of 'double standards' re black coaches. Suspect 3 wins in 17 games didn't help

Holt response was

OllieHoltMirror Oliver Holt

@ @DickinsonTimes can't believe you are having a go at me, too, now. I suppose it'll be abuse next

Matt Dickinson response was

@OllieHoltMirror plenty of worthy spokesmen for your Rooney Rule campaign. You picked the wrong one

Holt responseOllieHoltMirror Oliver Holt

@DickinsonTimes your problem is that you are jealous of Paul Ince and cannot respect his success. Period.

14 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply »

[Darwen Rover]

Is it cos I is black...???

Grow up ince... You were a cracking player but shocking manager!

[sam_rovers]

yes yes, Blackburn Rovers went out and hired a black manager in order to fire him and pay his compensation cause they are racists.

[booth]

Holt is a perfect example of someone that smug, that it completely overrides any self awareness or intelligence they may have gained through their schooling years. Even his hair is smug.

As a result he has no idea how much of a pillock he actually looks to the general public.

[daverich]

Agreed Holt is a tool.

Nowt to do with race, Ince wasn't up to the job, just as SK isn't, simple as!

[mark1875]

I could have sworn we were 19th?

spot on!! league table after Ince last match:

Barclays Premier League - Updated 13/12/2008 HOME AWAY

Pos Name P W D L F A W D L F A GD PTS

1 Liverpool 17 5 4 0 13 6 6 1 1 13 5 +15 38

2 Chelsea 16 3 3 2 14 5 8 0 0 21 1 +29 36

3 Man Utd 16 6 1 0 19 4 3 4 2 8 6 +17 32

4 Aston Villa 17 4 4 1 14 9 5 0 3 15 11 +9 31

5 Arsenal 17 5 1 2 15 10 4 2 3 14 10 +9 30

6 Hull City 17 3 2 3 9 15 4 4 1 17 12 -1 27

7 Everton 17 1 3 4 9 15 6 1 2 14 10 -2 25

8 Portsmouth 16 4 2 2 13 10 2 3 3 6 13 -4 23

9 Wigan Athletic 17 4 2 3 9 9 2 2 4 12 11 +1 22

10 Fulham 16 5 2 1 11 6 0 4 4 2 6 +1 21

11 Bolton 17 2 2 4 6 9 4 0 5 14 14 -3 20

12 Middlesbrough 17 3 3 3 9 13 2 2 4 8 11 -7 20

13 Stoke City 17 5 2 2 12 10 0 3 5 5 17 -10 20

14 Tottenham 17 3 2 4 7 7 2 2 4 12 14 -2 19

15 Manchester City 17 4 0 5 19 10 1 3 4 11 15 +5 18

16 West Ham Utd 16 3 1 4 11 13 2 2 4 6 11 -7 18

17 Sunderland 17 3 1 5 11 13 2 2 4 6 12 -8 18

18 Newcastle 16 3 3 2 13 11 0 4 4 6 13 -5 16

19 Blackburn 17 1 2 5 5 15 2 2 5 12 19 -17 13

20 WBA 17 2 2 4 9 15 1 1 7 3 17 -20 12

[roverwhelmed]

Oliver Holt makes my skin crawl, he's just awful.

It is also accusing JW and the board, indirectly, of racism, when they are not able to defend themselves as they no longer are our board.

[Hi Mack]

OliverHolt is so far stuck up his own arse he can see his lungs!

The guy thinks he's a celebrity, all his Rovers chat is so negative, Ince was a poor manager.... I think it's more racist to bring up that ince was sacked because of his colour! I see managers/players for their talents not their skin or beliefs!

Fact is Kean White, Ince Black .........both sh1t managers!

[Cocker]

Everyone will remember seeing this but still

http://strackattack.com/gifs/paul%20ince%20blackburn%20football.gif

[Mattyblue]

Jealous of Ince's success?

If you go down that road, you are unable to criticise anyone in football, 'no, sorry mate, you're jealous'.

He's had jobs at MK and Notts County since Rovers, jobs he only got because he was 'Paul Ince'.

Shame on the Mirror and anyone that buys that excuse for a newspaper.

[deryck guyler's spoon]

Holt responseOllieHoltMirror Oliver Holt

@DickinsonTimes your problem is that you are jealous of Paul Ince and cannot respect his success. Period.

14 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply »

What a dweeb!

That sounds like the sort of thing 12 year old girls say when you call Justin Bieber a poof!

[Mattyblue]

'I had no money'

you almost spent as much in one summer than Allardyce got in his whole reign.

Then blames 'no money' at his other jobs. Well I'm sorry, but you don't get open chequebooks in the basement leagues.

[Amo]

Oliver Holt's just a liberal dweeb.

So, Blackburn, the FIRST PL CLUB to hire a Black British manager are racist for sacking him? How does that work?

Ince wasn't even qualified for the job! Too busy on the putting range to take his badges and respect the other managers in the league who actually did the time and didn't just live off being "The Guvnor".

My mate was telling me that Andy Cole was on a show the other day and said that he, essentially, can't be assed to take his badges because black managers are discriminated against etc. It's such a load of bull. No wonder no-one while hire you with that attitude. You don't see Chris Hughton playing the race card, do you? No. He soon found work after leaving Newcastle, based on his management alone.

The Rooney Rule is nothing but reverse-racism and shouldn't be touched with a barge-pole.

[chris]

So has Kenny Dalglish ever signed a black player?

I can't remember any at Blackburn from 1991 to 1995 being purchased.