[Archived] Post Kean - Next Manager

[47er]

Ever since they took over the club, Venkys have tried to scrimp their way through it. Yet they've ended up wasting a fortune on paying out contracts to people we needed--------Sam, Diouf, Williams,Finn,MacDonald and so on plus millions in agents fees!

A right balls up eh? So now's the time to recognise that we need a bit of quality about the place and where better than at the top? If someone is going to be able to save us from this shambles and save their investment Venkys would be well advised to pay the going rate for once.

I would go for Hughes and his team--it'll pay handsomely in the end.

[SergioPeter89]

Michael Laudrup.

Plays the football that Venkys want Rovers to play.

Worked toghter with Faxe Jensen in both Brøndy and Getafe.

Is young, and have already got a good taste of life as a manager.

Will be a person the players look up to, and not a man called Steve, who players calls Stevie, Keano etc..

[Blandy]

Just read Michael Laudrups' Wiki page and glanced through the notes of his managerial career, I then realised

his method of management seems to be the blue-print for Keans. At Bronby (with Jensen as assistant)he got rid of older experienced players and replaced them with attack minded youth players, he also played with two attacking wingers and liked to play a short-passing possession game, which I am sure Kean has also stated that this is his preferred style. Is it Jensen calling the shots with team management?

[ABBEY]

Wiki the fountain of all knowledge !

[67splitscreen]

With the likes of Laudrup you are into the 2.5-3m a year category and still unproven in the Prem or even English football.

Might as well stump up the extra cash and get a proven Prem manager, Hughsey last contract was 3m pa, Anchelotti was allegedly on 6m at Chelsea so we can forget him. Moyes is on around 3.2m, McLeisg 2m at Villa, Debatable just where MoN lies I'd guess around the 2.5m mark, sort of gives an idea of where we need to be.

Pardew is allegedly on 500k basic, not my cup of tea but Pardews wages suggest that someone like Curbs would be a target, as we all know we love cheap!

If we did intend to take this route, IMO, Hughsey has to be the target, it's been said many times, where would he have taken us with 5-10m per season as a budget.

[martonrover]

Not the time for Laudrup i.m.o. Rather have him than Kean but we need someone proven in the Prem.

[chris]

I bet Peter Reid is cheap

[jim mk2]

Sam, Diouf, Williams,Finn,MacDonald and so on!

Paying that lot off must have cost Venky's £5 million at least - and the owners replaced them with people who were less competent.

Management of the madhouse.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

I would go for Hughes and his team--it'll pay handsomely in the end.

Hughes is the obvious and best option - not only does he command respect from the players - but he would also bring his back room staff with him and sort all that out in one set of appointments.

If he can only pursuade John Williams to come back with him - it would be like going back in time.

Having said all that - I did like the idea of Laudrup - and wouldn't complain about Ancelloti - not so keen on Benetiz though.

I think, as you said, if they get the right man in it could end up paying off hugely for our owners and easily off-set the associated cost of bringing in a new manager (especially avoiding relegation).

Though some seem to have a downer on the squad after the Newcastle game - I still think we have a good squad of players - who if correctly set up (and with some defensive additions in January) could easily get into the top half of the table.

[DanielMB]

Michael Laudrup gets 5 million danish kroner a year at Mallorca. thats the same as about 600.000 pounds

[chaddyrovers]

Hughes is the obvious and best option - not only does he command respect from the players - but he would also bring his back room staff with him and sort all that out in one set of appointments.

If he can only pursuade John Williams to come back with him - it would be like going back in time.

Having said all that - I did like the idea of Laudrup - and wouldn't complain about Ancelloti - not so keen on Benetiz though.

I think, as you said, if they get the right man in it could end up paying off hugely for our owners and easily off-set the associated cost of bringing in a new manager (especially avoiding relegation).

Though some seem to have a downer on the squad after the Newcastle game - I still think we have a good squad of players - who if correctly set up (and with some defensive additions in January) could easily get into the top half of the table.

I agree with you DMTP.

If we got a very good proven manager in ASAP then we could achieve top 10 this season.

Hughes would be a Great choice for the manager but whether he would come back to rovers or whether the owners could tempt him back here is debateable but you never know in Football.

Ancelotti is unlikely to want to come to rovers. Also been linked with replacing Harry Redknapp when/if he gets the England Job.

Landrup would be a very good choice to replace Kean. would he want to come to rovers? i don't know. But He is miles better than Kean is. He could attract better quality players to Rovers aswell. The only bad point for him is no PL managerial expereince but I you could have said that when Hughes took over rovers.

Curbishley has PL experience and know how to keep a team up in PL and knows how to organise a team to keep clean sheets and win games.

Under Kean we are NOT keeping Clean sheets to be able to win games and keep need to score 3 goals plus to be able to win games and you are not going to be able to do this each and ever game in the PL.

[67splitscreen]

Laudrup may provide the type of football some crave for but I seriously doubt his managerial nous other than at Bronby.

Career wins at 37% inflated by his time at Bronby with 57.58 % his low point at Spartak 28.57%

I honestly don't believe we could take that gamble in our current position, the hard graft needs to be done with the current players until Jan (if there is money available) perfect ingredients for Hughsey.

[broadsword]

The squad itself isnt that bad and certainly not bottom 3 material, so something else must be wrong!

Just out of interest, out of our squad, which players, at the time of writing, are decent premiership players?

In my view, both the squad and the manager aren't good enough right now.

[miqaayil]

Micheal laudrup will be excellent choice .... but i still prefer johan cruyff(managing catalonia) or frank rijkaard, last choice ole gunnar soljier

[tony gale's mic]

For me Premier League experience is crucial. I'd rather have a Curbishley than a Laudrup, honestly. Steady ourselves as a Premier League force again, make us hard to beat again and then if we're solid then look to add flair.

[John]

Think PL experience is important should we need a new manager.

Whilst I have little time for Kean and think he is poor manager at this moment in time, I do worry about Venkys decision making process regarding any potential new manager, we are run in a pretty strange way.

[gumboots]

Think PL experience is important should we need a new manager.

Whilst I have little time for Kean and think he is poor manager at this moment in time, I do worry about Venkys decision making process regarding any potential new manager, we are run in a pretty strange way.

The art of understatement!

[47er]

Just out of interest, out of our squad, which players, at the time of writing, are decent premiership players?

In my view, both the squad and the manager aren't good enough right now.

The defence was terrific last season------theres 5. Add Hoilett, N'Zonzi and Olsson and we've got 8. And that's what we said----or many of us------all we needed was 3 players-----a left-back, a striker and a defensive central mid-fielder.But they all needed to be of quality and experience.

However that was before Kean got rid of Emerton and Diouf!

Instead of following that line of action, we have Ribeiro,Myles Anderson and other players who have no experience of the the Premier League and no time to learn.

This is incompetence of the highest order.

[joey_big_nose]

Michael Laudrup gets 5 million danish kroner a year at Mallorca. thats the same as about 600.000 pounds

No way we need someone like Laudrap. We need established Premier League experience and someone who will command the players respect instantly. Hughes ior O'Neill areby far the stand out candidate but I can see absolutely no way they would go for this job.

Curbishley is probably the best and most appropriate we could get.

However if Kean goes I foresee a bizarre appointment - something like O'Leary......

[tomphil]

No way we need someone like Laudrap. We need established Premier League experience and someone who will command the players respect instantly. Hughes ior O'Neill areby far the stand out candidate but I can see absolutely no way they would go for this job.

Curbishley is probably the best and most appropriate we could get.

However if Kean goes I foresee a bizarre appointment - something like O'Leary......

Here here, we need someone tried and tested if possible, even if their only here 18 months or something. The rots got to be stopped first then put the club back on an even keel.

[Sparky Marky]

Sven and Derek Faz

[Miker]

I think people suggesting Samba as manager or other unproven managers aren't taking our plight seriously. While I think a sock puppet could do a better job than Kean (and probably be a lot more entertaining), we NEED an experienced, intelligent manager to take over and get our club out of the mire. There's no two ways about it.

We need an Allardyce, Hughes or Dalglish.

Replacing him with anything else will likely prove to just be a case of "same ######, different smell".

[jim mk2]

The defence was terrific last season------theres 5. Add Hoilett, N'Zonzi and Olsson and we've got 8.

The defence was "terrific" at the end of last season because it had P Jones in the centre and J Jones in front protecting it. Both have gone leaving the defence exposed.

We have 5 very good Premier League players - Robinson, Samba, Olsson, Hoilett, Givet and probably Dann. N'Zonzi is borderline. The rest are ageing, too young or not good enough. The wrong players were bought in the summer and two very good experienced players Emerton and Diouf allowed to leave when they should still be first choice picks for the first team. The first team is weaker now than last season and I don't buy the argument that a new manager can fix it in an instant and get us in the top half and some seem to believe - even Sam might struggle to turn this around.

[PAFELL]

I think people suggesting Samba as manager or other unproven managers aren't taking our plight seriously. While I think a sock puppet could do a better job than Kean (and probably be a lot more entertaining), we NEED an experienced, intelligent manager to take over and get our club out of the mire. There's no two ways about it.

We need an Allardyce, Hughes or Dalglish.

Replacing him with anything else will likely prove to just be a case of "same ######, different smell".

I considered Samba, only because of money.

If venkys cannot afford to sack Kean and appoint another manager (They should not be owners of a prem football club) then it would be the cheapest option. Keeping Kean imo means relagation. Samba or another player manager, risky but no more of a risk we have now.

I agree though Rovers need an experienced premiership manager. But who would want to come to Rovers, knowing that every so often they have to travel to India and back. That alone would put many people off. Who would want to come knowing we have owners who do not have a clue how to run a football club. How can anybody manage Rovers when owned by incompetent owners. Knowing that transfer policy is run by commitee. That the manager would not have a say on how the club is run etc etc.

It is all very well putting forward this name and that name, but do so considering the working conditions as well.

As much as I want Kean gone. Finding a replacement who would come and work under the conditions our stupid owners put on the manager, is where the problem lies. Kean appears to be the only one willing to do that.

I want Kean gone, first and foremost. But replacing him is not as easy as we may think - sadly.

[mhead]

We are in a Catch 22-any prospective manager would be looking at our fixture list and saying "I can look like the Messiah if they approach me in early November and I can make improvements for the December fixtures"

For the Club's sake we still need to be on about 6 to 8 points by then. Fortunately there will be 4 or 5 Clubs like us BUT this Season is already a write-off (unless we can beat the barcodes in the Cup match)

With the fixture list Steve Kean looks like a 'dead duck'-because the fans and the tremblers(PLUS the non-ST holders and non-goers on here) are saying a loud and clear message.

The Club and the fans are the most important thing.Getting Hughes and the Taffia team is the big 'if" -that is a Pune 9 question(put nicely).

And I am a member of the "give him more time" voters.