[Archived] Post Kean - Next Manager

[gumboots]

i'm still hoping for

johan cryuff , frank rijkaard , shuster , micheal laudrup ..... someone who can nurture young players ...

I'm still hoping we get rid of Kean before it's too late. I was one who wanted to give him time initially but that time has long gone and he should have gone at the end of last season at the latest. Who comes in? Well, someone mentioned someone who had had success in the 3rd division of the Albanian league - I'd take that even - success is success after all and it's a lot more than Kean's had.

[roverandout]

right now i'd take david brent.

[chris]

right now i'd take david brent.

you know what Eric Hitchmo would say?

[roverandout]

eric who?

[Waggy76]

The next manager , who and when ?

Venkys big problem now is timing , I personally think Kean is finished but he won't resign and is unlikely to get another job in football , so he is holding his hand out for the wonga !!

We cannot sack him and have no one to take over (even though it has felt like that since December)I cannot name the next coach down ..So ,a new manager as to be lined up to takeover from Kean within 24 hrs , which is going to be difficult ,not many people of real footballing stature will touch us with a bargepole at the present time, contractual issues could also complicate the issue . It took Jack 6 weeks from sacking Mackay to appointing Dalglish but we had TP in those days .

My choice is Mark Hughes , I know it is a very unlikely scenario but I live in hope ..

[John]

The big worry is that Venkys don't have the finance to sack Kean and appoint a new manager (and their staff).

Also with Jerome Anderson/Kean so heavily involved since the takeover, and likely before it, you just know this could end messy....

[gumboots]

The big worry is that Venkys don't have the finance to sack Kean and appoint a new manager (and their staff).

Also with Jerome Anderson/Kean so heavily involved since the takeover, and likely before it, you just know this could end messy....

Whatever happens it's going to be messy so you might as well at least lessen the mess by attempting to take relegation out of the equation by sacking Kean and appointing an actual manager. Ultimately football is about results and most things are forgotten if football teams start performing on the pitch. There have been some horribly messy takeovers, sackings etc in the past but nobody talks about them if you do well after them. Look at City with all the bother over Shinawatra - do the media ever mention it now?

[chris]

The big worry is that Venkys don't have the finance to sack Kean and appoint a new manager (and their staff).

Also with Jerome Anderson/Kean so heavily involved since the takeover, and likely before it, you just know this could end messy....

I find this hard to belive, he only has 2 year and I doubt he could have got more the 400 - 500k because he was only on around 100k to start with. I read JW earnt 150k , so Kean a first team coach promoted to manager wouldn't have been on Sam's salary.

Unless Anderson is a genius.

[John]

There are some that believe that the relationship is not as straight forward as that Chris....

Anyway, back to discussing our next manager.

[chris]

eric who?

............I don't agree with that in the work place

[T.J.Newton]

a poor performance against qpr&spurs will surely see the end of kean reign as manager, just hope the new manager is sombody we all want and not whoops I missed off the "g" Avram(look at my history to see how ###### i am)Grant!, hughes would be amazing(but unlikely), martin oneil would prob keep us up at but long term?, too keep us up this season though i think we def need sombody with a lot of prem experiance.

[patrickvalery]

you know what Eric Hitchmo would say?

Post of the day!

[Billy Castell]

Who is Erich Hitchmo?

[chris]

Who is Erich Hitchmo?

the guy with the little hand, you know the w@nking claw

[Amo]

Who is Erich Hitchmo?

Have you been to the Coventry conference?

[Wiggy]

I think that relegation is all but certain now. The Venky mob are so lacking in intelligence that they think formulating a plan with Steve Kean this weekend will change things. It won't. If he had any managerial ability then there would have been at least some glimmer of it. There's nothing.

More hot air this weekend will prolong the farce for another few weeks, before the eventual sacking. Then we'll probably be getting to Christmas before a new appointment is made. That's too late for even Mourinho to assure safety.

I cannot think of any other football club owners who would not have approached a likely candidate by now. But the Raos' are so patently stupid that it's probably not even been considered yet.

How they were taken in by this incompetent chancer ( plus Anderson/Kentaro) leaves no hope that they have the wherewithal to sort this self made mess out.

It's all getting so predictable. And boring.

[Billy Castell]

Have you been to the Coventry conference?

What are you people on about? Is this some sort of thing that is an internet in-joke? Or related to The Office?

[Darwen Rover]

Don't understand how venkys can't afford to sack kean??

Couple of million compared to the £50 odd million loss by end of season...

Kean has (in his eyes) made it when he is eventually fired...

Ps I like the sound of bilic!!

[chris]

What are you people on about? Is this some sort of thing that is an internet in-joke? Or related to The Office?

to stop the madness, yes the office, not a real person

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

When he does go we can't afford to get it wrong again. If we do we'll be back to playing Rochdale in the league sooner than you think.

[m1st]

I think that relegation is all but certain now. The Venky mob are so lacking in intelligence that they think formulating a plan with Steve Kean this weekend will change things. It won't. If he had any managerial ability then there would have been at least some glimmer of it. There's nothing.

More hot air this weekend will prolong the farce for another few weeks, before the eventual sacking. Then we'll probably be getting to Christmas before a new appointment is made. That's too late for even Mourinho to assure safety.

I cannot think of any other football club owners who would not have approached a likely candidate by now. But the Raos' are so patently stupid that it's probably not even been considered yet.

How they were taken in by this incompetent chancer ( plus Anderson/Kentaro) leaves no hope that they have the wherewithal to sort this self made mess out.

It's all getting so predictable. And boring.

I've just marked this post up by mistake; I've got such fat fingers that I hit the wrong key as I was looking for the "Reply" key!

Fwiw, Wiggy; I don't think it's fair to accuse the Venky's of being "so lacking in intelligence", unless you're using that last word in the specific sense of "information about the situation", which, to judge from the tenor of the rest of your post, I don't think you were. Forgive me if I've mis-judged you about that; if so, I'll gladly apologise.

I think it may be truer to say that they were extremely naïve about what they were buying into. Had they known then what they know now [including the expectations they were raising among the likes of us], they may not even have bid for us. I would guess that the last year or so has been a massive learning curve for them; and that's why, at present, I'm in the "Kean Out" camp; but, not yet, the "Venky's Out" camp.

Let's just hope the visit to Pune will help the scales drop from their eyes so they can realise the enormity of the task facing them. The first bit's easy; the second: finding Kean's replacement, who'll enable us to remain in the League we've become accustomed to, won't be.

[roverandout]

oh yes the guy with the withered hand, i tell you what i will bend the drummer over and the other two and take them all at the same time.

[beastlove]

Villa finished 6th 3 seasons in a row under MON - that's better.

He's the obvious choice, a great manager and another example of how a managers stock can fall for no apparent reason just because they're out of the game for a while.

My point is Villa under Oneil were the third highest spending team in Europe (behind inter and Madrid) yet still did no better than Dave OL. That said I think MON is a better manager and DOL wouldn't be that bad

[USABlue]

Easy to see by some of the names put forward here that desperation has well and truly set in. Why does eveyone seem so sure a top name manager would not be interested. What better way to show you are a GOOD manager than take over a club in turmoil and fix it. Surely that would speak volumes about a persons ability rather than just ebig able to splash the cash. I sort of fancy Ancelotti meself,(not in THAT way) and reports are he is Kean to work in England again. Worth a phone call at least.

[USABlue]

I think that relegation is all but certain now. The Venky mob are so lacking in intelligence that they think formulating a plan with Steve Kean this weekend will change things. It won't. If he had any managerial ability then there would have been at least some glimmer of it. There's nothing.

More hot air this weekend will prolong the farce for another few weeks, before the eventual sacking. Then we'll probably be getting to Christmas before a new appointment is made. That's too late for even Mourinho to assure safety.

I cannot think of any other football club owners who would not have approached a likely candidate by now. But the Raos' are so patently stupid that it's probably not even been considered yet.

How they were taken in by this incompetent chancer ( plus Anderson/Kentaro) leaves no hope that they have the wherewithal to sort this self made mess out.

It's all getting so predictable. And boring.

Really, I suppose I should find something else to occupy my Saturdays then until next seasons Championship fixtures come out. I don't think many people lacking in intelligence can sustain a business venture with revenues in the millions and frankly I think anyone questioning that may just call their own intelligence into question.