[Archived] Protest March 17.09.11

[Roverall]

I printed out the KEAN OUT posters with his face on them and handed out 500 of them - there were definitely at least 500-600 protesting at Ewood.

So much for the protest having a negative effect on the performance. The players performed like it actually mattered this time.

Kean won't be going anywhere for the forseeable future but at the very least the protest countered a lot of the apathy (and that is the correct word) to what has been happening at Ewood.

Too many Rovers fans seem content to whinge and whinge and whinge... and do nothing.

At least we publicised our concerns.

[thenonda]

some people are so blinded it is unreal. 1 win and everything in the garden is rosey and whilst personal insults are a bit low, I notice you sit in the Darwen End... No personal insults ever sang in there I dont know how you cope sitting there.

[hesfromburn]

No but is undermined the shoe string of decent enough reason to march that there was

I dont think everything is rosey but I dont think the sky is falling. Its tge start of the season we could end up ANYWHERE!!! Definatly was not the right time for a march

[dubdubdub]

I printed out the KEAN OUT posters with his face on them and handed out 500 of them - there were definitely at least 500-600 protesting at Ewood.

So much for the protest having a negative effect on the performance. The players performed like it actually mattered this time.

Kean won't be going anywhere for the forseeable future but at the very least the protest countered a lot of the apathy (and that is the correct word) to what has been happening at Ewood.

Too many Rovers fans seem content to whinge and whinge and whinge... and do nothing.

At least we publicised our concerns.

Why would a protest affect how the players played unless they want Kean to stay?

In which case they were playing for him and not the people outside with their donut banners.

[True Blue & White]

Jeez get a grip man, stop trying to make this personal.

I said people want him sacked 4 games into the season, 'This season' I know your not happy with his full tenure, but 'IMO once again' I dont agree with the protest because of the timing this season.

Now is the best time to replace he manager, surely 4 games in is better than 30 games in with only a handle of games left for the new manager to have an effect.

[chris]

Steve kean #easytarget

This site has turned into nothing more than a pathetic witch hunt gor a section of fans and that was all the march was.

The low turnout, the personal insult chants the majority of the posters made proves that it was nothing more.

I genuinly felt angry about these people doing this with the timing etc it just didnt carry any substance and if there is genuine time and need to march it will be harder to be taken seriously and organise.

All thanks to a few knee jerkers.

I think the organisers and the peddlers of the march need to hold their hands up and admit they were wrong and stop now trying to claim larger numbers turned up and taking credit for the win. Its embarassing that the man they are so against deserves so much credit for the last 2 results SINCE HE ASKED TO BE JUDGED WITH THE TEAM HE HAS CREATED

I don't see why you need to keep posting the same thing on every page, I am happy to relate to both sides of the arguement and think the protest did a lot of good, yes the insults were a bit much, maybe timing not perfect.

You however are on such a rant that you can't see the wood through the trees and you are not really discussing the matter, just ranting and ending every post WITH A LOAD OF BLOCKED CAPITALS.

Because of this protest Venkys are meeting the fans to find ways to improve communications and learn howe to relate to the fans.

If you think that 99% of fans were all happy bottom of the league, with poor comms from the owners and a rookie manger who would make anyone nervous, then you keep believing that.

If you are going to reply with another rant then don;t bother.

[BPF]

Steve kean #easytarget

This site has turned into nothing more than a pathetic witch hunt gor a section of fans and that was all the march was.

The low turnout, the personal insult chants the majority of the posters made proves that it was nothing more.

I genuinly felt angry about these people doing this with the timing etc it just didnt carry any substance and if there is genuine time and need to march it will be harder to be taken seriously and organise.

All thanks to a few knee jerkers.

I think the organisers and the peddlers of the march need to hold their hands up and admit they were wrong and stop now trying to claim larger numbers turned up and taking credit for the win. Its embarassing that the man they are so against deserves so much credit for the last 2 results SINCE HE ASKED TO BE JUDGED WITH THE TEAM HE HAS CREATED

I find your presence on this board rather unsettling.

In the Jack Walker thread, you -1'ed the majority of the posts. This is highly questionable in itself.

Now then, I would like to focus on the last part of your comment:

'deserves so much credit for the last two results'.

Fulham - A poor team that had taken very little from the season so far tore us apart in the second half. We did very little other than give the ball away and invite pressure on ourselves.

Arsenal - I don't want to take anything away from this win, I really enjoyed watching it. The first time I've enjoyed a game in months. However, being realistic about it that was the Liverpool game from last season. Arsenal are in a bad way at the moment and it was mostly luck (and Robinson) that allowed us to take advantage of it.

In football, you cannot simply forget the previous season which is exactly what you have decided to do. Kean took us to the brink of oblivion last season and there is nothing to suggest that he will not do the same again.

I'm very much hoping that we carry some confidence into the Newcastle game now and Kean continues to improve his awful record. My advice to you is that football is a very odd game, your mindless defence of our rookie coach could end up backfiring on you in a big way.

[chris]

In the Jack Walker thread, you -1'ed the majority of the posts. This is highly questionable in itself.

how do you know he 1-'s can you see somehow?

[Mattyblue]

Kean may well ask to be judged from Seprember 2011 and why wouldn't he after a horrendous previous 8 months.. But as fans we are well in our rights to have an ooinion on his whole tenure.

[Al]

how do you know he 1-'s can you see somehow?

Yes. Just click on the box with the score in it.

I find your presence on this board rather unsettling.

In the Jack Walker thread, you -1'ed the majority of the posts. This is highly questionable in itself.

Now then, I would like to focus on the last part of your comment:

'deserves so much credit for the last two results'.

Fulham - A poor team that had taken very little from the season so far tore us apart in the second half. We did very little other than give the ball away and invite pressure on ourselves.

Arsenal - I don't want to take anything away from this win, I really enjoyed watching it. The first time I've enjoyed a game in months. However, being realistic about it that was the Liverpool game from last season. Arsenal are in a bad way at the moment and it was mostly luck (and Robinson) that allowed us to take advantage of it.

In football, you cannot simply forget the previous season which is exactly what you have decided to do. Kean took us to the brink of oblivion last season and there is nothing to suggest that he will not do the same again.

I'm very much hoping that we carry some confidence into the Newcastle game now and Kean continues to improve his awful record. My advice to you is that football is a very odd game, your mindless defence of our rookie coach could end up backfiring on you in a big way.

Excellent post. You cannot just disregard a whole section of his tenure because it suits your case. Of course Kean wants a fresh start. Last season was indefensible.

[chris]

Yes. Just click on the box with the score in it.

Excellent post. You cannot just disregard a whole section of his tenure because it suits your case. Of course Kean wants a fresh start. Last season was indefensible.

oh right thought it was anonymous, thanks

[braddock]

Kean may well ask to be judged from Seprember 2011 and why wouldn't he after a horrendous previous 8 months.. But as fans we are well in our rights to have an ooinion on his whole tenure.

Good for you. It won't matter to anybody important though if the protests keep ending up so farcical.

And if (big if) we now start to turn the corner and match the league positions Allardyce got us to will you forget about last season and see it as a transitional period? I don't think you will. We aren't allowed transitional periods, we aren't allowed any form of slight controversy, we aren't allowed anything from the day Allardyce was sacked. That's the way it will stay, I'm convinced.

[Al]

Good for you. It won't matter to anybody important though if the protests keep ending up so farcical.

And if (big if) we now start to turn the corner and match the league positions Allardyce got us to will you forget about last season and see it as a transitional period? I don't think you will. We aren't allowed transitional periods, we aren't allowed any form of slight controversy, we aren't allowed anything from the day Allardyce was sacked. That's the way it will stay, I'm convinced.

Very big and in my opinion unlikely 'if'.

[DE.]

Steve kean #easytarget

This site has turned into nothing more than a pathetic witch hunt gor a section of fans and that was all the march was.

The low turnout, the personal insult chants the majority of the posters made proves that it was nothing more.

I genuinly felt angry about these people doing this with the timing etc it just didnt carry any substance and if there is genuine time and need to march it will be harder to be taken seriously and organise.

All thanks to a few knee jerkers.

I think the organisers and the peddlers of the march need to hold their hands up and admit they were wrong and stop now trying to claim larger numbers turned up and taking credit for the win. Its embarassing that the man they are so against deserves so much credit for the last 2 results SINCE HE ASKED TO BE JUDGED WITH THE TEAM HE HAS CREATED

For the record... the plus I put against this post should have been a minus, my bad.

[chris]

Good for you. It won't matter to anybody important though if the protests keep ending up so farcical.

And if (big if) we now start to turn the corner and match the league positions Allardyce got us to will you forget about last season and see it as a transitional period? I don't think you will. We aren't allowed transitional periods, we aren't allowed any form of slight controversy, we aren't allowed anything from the day Allardyce was sacked. That's the way it will stay, I'm convinced.

Broddock its not that black and white is it? look how badly Blackburn was burnt from rookie managers with no experience.

Harford 1st to 20th in 18 months

Kidd = Relegation.

Now considering Kean has a worse record then both and less experience and less succcess infact he's been fired 3 times, John williams would have never hired him and he came across as unsackable and smug and a little deluded, I'm still worried.

But now we have won one game and are 16th or 17th??? a few people arrive to show off.

Fair play he won so he gets more time, but lets not kid oursleves, he has it all the prove, its a lifeline.

[braddock]

Very big and in my opinion unlikely 'if'.

What a wonderful contribution. It might be useful to actually answer the hypothetical question though.

Things seem to be personal with Kean yet people here are lambasted for disliking Lardy Boy as a man.

[Carlos090]

Now is the best time to replace he manager, surely 4 games in is better than 30 games in with only a handle of games left for the new manager to have an effect.

I disagree, the manager has had the time now to put his team together and run the tactics he wants, the players have started to settle after the last manager change and the points are starting to come in, albeit slowly and not too convincing.

If the manager gets sacked or leaves, we start all over again. Meaning the next run of games we could basically throw out the window, new tactics will be implemented by the new manager, probably a new backroom staff change; the players will be unsettled while trying to fit into another style of play. We will look as mediocre as we did when Kean took over.

If we get another manager in and he starts badly and we don't win the next 4 games, is it right to get rid of him because its early in the season and we have time to replace him before the relegation fight starts towards the end? I don't believe it is and that why I want to give the manager time even if he turns out to be the wrong man for the job.

[braddock]

Broddock its not that black and white is it? look how badly Blackburn was burnt from rookie managers with no experience.

Harford 1st to 20th in 18 months

Kidd = Relegation.

Now considering Kean has a worse record then both and less experience and less succcess infact he's been fired 3 times, John williams would have never hired him and he came across as unsackable and smug and a little deluded, I'm still worried.

But now we have won one game and are 16th or 17th??? a few people arrive to show off.

Fair play he won so he gets more time, but lets not kid oursleves, he has it all the prove, its a lifeline.

All riveting but anybody who knows about football and watches the games without prejudice can see he has not lost the team, we are capable of fighting it out against anyone, we've finally just had a bit of luck after a long time with none at all and this season does have the potential to be promising. People just don't want to see it.

(I'd have stuck Ince in there as inexperienced to help you cause. If you want any more pointers let me know, I'll get you close to having a decent argument.)

[Al]

What a wonderful contribution. It might be useful to actually answer the hypothetical question though.

Things seem to be personal with Kean yet people here are lambasted for disliking Lardy Boy as a man.

About as wonderful as your hypothesis is likely.

[braddock]

About as wonderful as your hypothesis is likely.

Which means either your contribution was poor or we are likely to finish mid table.

I'll take your point either way.

[chris]

All riveting but anybody who knows about football and watches the games without prejudice can see he has not lost the team, we are capable of fighting it out against anyone, we've finally just had a bit of luck after a long time with none at all and this season does have the potential to be promising. People just don't want to see it.

(I'd have stuck Ince in there as inexperienced to help you cause. If you want any more pointers let me know, I'll get you close to having a decent argument.)

Although you think you are being smart and I had forgotten about Ince, I was using Kidd and Harford as examples of managers that were not managers in their previous post.

Ince was very success as a manager of MK Don's.

so thank you for your advice but no thanks, I'm way ahead of you.

[braddock]

Although you think you are being smart and I had forgotten about Ince, I was using Kidd and Harford as examples of managers that were not managers in their previous post.

Ince was very success as a manager of MK Don's.

so thank you for your advice but no thanks, I'm way ahead of you.

Of course you are.

[Mattyblue]

All riveting but anybody who knows about football and watches the games without prejudice can see he has not lost the team, we are capable of fighting it out against anyone, we've finally just had a bit of luck after a long time with none at all and this season does have the potential to be promising. People just don't want to see it.

(I'd have stuck Ince in there as inexperienced to help you cause. If you want any more pointers let me know, I'll get you close to having a decent argument.)

You could have a decent argument if you didn't post like a 12 year old.

I'll say it again', I liked 'Lardy' for one reason and one reason only- he got consistent results, ergo no danger of relegation, solid club yada yada.

Kean does the same and he will have my backing 100%

[Al]

Which means either your contribution was poor or we are likely to finish mid table.

I'll take your point either way.

I don't think so. Your logic is a bit skewed there.

[braddock]

You could have a decent argument if you didn't post like a 12 year old.

I'll say it again', I liked 'Lardy' for one reason and one reason only- he got consistent results, ergo no danger of relegation, solid club yada yada.

Kean does the same and he will have my backing 100%

So what time scale and what results will Kean have to achieve to be able to claim 'consistent results'? It seems a little vague and manipulatable when in the hands of biased people.

If that is all you want then fair enough but Allardyce isn't the only way to achieve those things.