[Archived] Preview of Newcastle United, 24th September.

[Clitherover]

Couldn't get on the site after the game to comment, probably for the best going off how I was feeling at the time.

Hate to say it but as much as I enjoyed the win, I wish Arsenal would have done us last week in the hope that clueless idiot would have been shown the door, especially after yesterday.

You have to wonder how much longer we'll have to endure these performances now Kean's job is safe after our blip in form last week.

[den]

You're just moving the deck chairs on the " Titanic " matey. On current form how many of those players are Premier league standard ?

Being kind I'd say four- Robbo, Samba, probabably Dann, Hoilett. Ollson would make it five if played in midfield but not at left back. That's it in my opinion. The rest probably wouldn't get into say Bolton's team and they're bottom of the league. When more than half of the team is below the standard required you're in big trouble. Add to that a managment team that would be struggling at a club like Rochdale and you can see where we're heading.

Don't like admitting it but it's a fact.

Spot on there Tyrone.

Kean's pre match comments that he wants to outscore teams says everything about him and his approach to the game. Believing that Rovers can out play and outscore other PL teams is just so naieve, it's laughable.

Looking "generally" at the squad he's assembled, it's a squad built on this belief. IMO though, what he's actully achieved is a squad filled with unproven players of limited ability. All, so called, flair players, but very few, if any, of his signings are performing. Kean has done this, while at the same time neglecting the defence. We are weak and have no options at the back now. All his transfer dealings have been based on one type of player.

I said a couple of weeks ago, that if I were manager, I would prefer to have last seasons squad to work with. Within that squad there were various qualities. We had experience, players who could hold up the ball, players with pace, players with stamina, players who could win the ball in the air, players who could put a tackle in, players who would bust a gut on the park. Admittedly they certainly didn't all perform very well at all, but there were options for changing things within a game.

People ask what plan A is. Well, it's to out-pass the opposition. Very obviously, we aren't good enough to do that. So where's plan B? Well quite simply the balance of the squad leaves very few options for plan B. We don't have the strength and height to cause teams problems - even if we decide to launch it forwards. We don't have the bite in midfield to rattle teams.

I'm afraid when people are hoping that Kean will turn this around, the truth is that he doesn't have the options that he should have. All his eggs are in one basket. The frightening thing to me is, that if Kean were to be replaced, no matter how good a new manager was, he wouldn't have the players available that he would need to change things for the better.

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[Waggy76]

Spot on there Tyrone.

Kean's pre match comments that he wants to outscore teams says everything about him and his approach to the game. Believing that Rovers can out play and outscore other PL teams is just so naieve, it's laughable.

Looking "generally" at the squad he's assembled, it's a squad built on this belief. IMO though, what he's actully achieved is a squad filled with unproven players of limited ability. All, so called, flair players, but very few, if any, of his signings are performing. Kean has done this, while at the same time neglecting the defence. We are weak and have no options at the back now. All his transfer dealings have been based on one type of player.

I said a couple of weeks ago, that if I were manager, I would prefer to have last seasons squad to work with. Within that squad there were various qualities. We had experience, players who could hold up the ball, players with pace, players with stamina, players who could win the ball in the air, players who could put a tackle in, players who would bust a gut on the park. Admittedly they certainly didn't all perform very well at all, but there were options for changing things within a game.

You make some very good points , but I am sure Mark Hughes and our previous manager would make us more difficult to beat ......

People ask what plan A is. Well, it's to out-pass the opposition. Very obviously, we aren't good enough to do that. So where's plan B? Well quite simply the balance of the squad leaves very few options for plan B. We don't have the strength and height to cause teams problems - even if we decide to launch it forwards. We don't have the bite in midfield to rattle teams.

I'm afraid when people are hoping that Kean will turn this around, the truth is that he doesn't have the options that he should have. All his eggs are in one basket. The frightening thing to me is, that if Kean were to be replaced, no matter how good a new manager was, he wouldn't have the players available that he would need to change things for the better.

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[Parsonblue]

I'm afraid when people are hoping that Kean will turn this around, the truth is that he doesn't have the options that he should have. All his eggs are in one basket. The frightening thing to me is, that if Kean were to be replaced, no matter how good a new manager was, he wouldn't have the players available that he would need to change things for the better.

You've absolutely nailed it there den. We simply don't have the players to do anything different and too many of them are simply not up to the task. We have Petrovic and Vukcevic sitting on the bench because they aren't ready for the rigors of Premier League football. Well nine months on and Formica still doesn't look ready and Rochina struggles with many aspects of English football. As you say, anyone coming in to take charge of this lot is going to be faced with similar problems. Unfortunately, while it is commendable to want to play attacking football you have to have the players who can do it successfully. One win in six surely points to the fact that we don't and a more pragmatic approach is required. Sadly, Kean and the owners don't seem to appreciate that point and until they do nothing will change. I agree Kean should go but let's not forget who appointed him the first place. Does anyone really believe that our owners are likely to be anymore successful in appointing a successor?

[LeChuck]

Kean's pre match comments that he wants to outscore teams says everything about him and his approach to the game.

Actually it's more worrying than that, this week he's been talking about being tighter in defence. There was a pre-match quote yesterday morning saying we have to be strong in defence.

So what we saw was Steve Kean's attempt to shape a defensively strong Rovers team. What a complete joke, and all the evidence needed (as if it was in doubt) that he's not up to the job. That was his 'Wigan away'. You could see what was going to happen from the minute Demba Ba was allowed to turn and run at the defence from the half way line, there wasn't a Rovers player within 20 yards of him.

Where was Givet for the second goal by the way? And why couldn't he jump for the third? I don't care how good Olsson is in midfield, he needs to go left back because Givet is costing us goals every single game. Defence is more important than midfield and Olsson is miles better than Givet at left back.

[RoyRover]

I haven't seen any highlights of the game as I couldn't bring myself to watch and by the sound of things I've done myself a favour by not seeing them. I did however see Kean's comments and it's exactly the mix of deluded optimism and belief in bad luck that I've come to expect from him. Unless he and the owners wake up and realise that we are on the road to oblivion with him in charge, no matter how much positive spin they put on things after a fortuitous win against Arsenal. With Man City coming up next, we will be facing the very real possibility of having one win all season.

[mr bishi]

I don't care how good Olsson is in midfield, he needs to go left back because Givet is costing us goals every single game.

Couldn't agree more. He has been a disaster since the turn of the year.

[chaddyrovers]

BPF, we've played 8 games this season and conceded 3 on two occasions so it's not really a fact is it!!

We are too easy to play against, we have no bite in the midfield. Playing Formica, Hoilett and Rochina in the same team is suicide. You can afford to have one player of that ilk but not 3. Formica seems like a luxury we can't afford. Rochina needs to cut out the tricks and play a sensible game and hoilett just needs to be given a free role behind the striker.

Whack Petrovic and Grella in the midfield with the clear instruction to break up play and basically 'do a savage' on them.

For the next away game against QPR I would play Vekcevic and Hoilett on the wings and Grella, Nzonzi and Pedersen in the Middle to provide the defensive cover we need. Play either Goodwillie or Yakubu up front. We need to be soild defensive first and play on the counter.

[pick32]

Surely this clown has to go when city put 6+ past us.

[joey_big_nose]

Kean HAS to go to the drawing board and figure out how to get our shape right and be competitive in midfield. That means:-

1) Dropping Formica and moving Hoilett to second striker

2) Dropping Givet and moving Olsson to left back.

3) Play two of Rochina, Vukcevic and Pedersen on the wings - but selection based not on their attacking qualities but rather who can hold the shape and defend the best

4) Looking to see if there is anyone more solid we can play at right back - Riberio? Lowe? Dann? Hanley? Henley?

5) Find some sort of effective solution to central midfield. Not a passing player, just someone who can break up the play and be aggressive. Sadly it just downs't seem like we have a player like that but it is VITAL to turn someone up. Something as drastic as playing GIvet at centreback and moving one of Nelsen/Dann/Samba in midfield in front of the back four could mildly improve things. We are so poor on this front.

Its backs against the wall time!

[DeadlyDirk]

Spot on there Tyrone.

Kean's pre match comments that he wants to outscore teams says everything about him and his approach to the game. Believing that Rovers can out play and outscore other PL teams is just so naieve, it's laughable.

Looking "generally" at the squad he's assembled, it's a squad built on this belief. IMO though, what he's actully achieved is a squad filled with unproven players of limited ability. All, so called, flair players, but very few, if any, of his signings are performing. Kean has done this, while at the same time neglecting the defence. We are weak and have no options at the back now. All his transfer dealings have been based on one type of player.

I said a couple of weeks ago, that if I were manager, I would prefer to have last seasons squad to work with. Within that squad there were various qualities. We had experience, players who could hold up the ball, players with pace, players with stamina, players who could win the ball in the air, players who could put a tackle in, players who would bust a gut on the park. Admittedly they certainly didn't all perform very well at all, but there were options for changing things within a game.

People ask what plan A is. Well, it's to out-pass the opposition. Very obviously, we aren't good enough to do that. So where's plan B? Well quite simply the balance of the squad leaves very few options for plan B. We don't have the strength and height to cause teams problems - even if we decide to launch it forwards. We don't have the bite in midfield to rattle teams.

I'm afraid when people are hoping that Kean will turn this around, the truth is that he doesn't have the options that he should have. All his eggs are in one basket. The frightening thing to me is, that if Kean were to be replaced, no matter how good a new manager was, he wouldn't have the players available that he would need to change things for the better.

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It really is a joke, we have all these players like Junior, Olsson, Simon, Rochina, Formica full of attacking talent but offering very little defensively and often trying to do all of the hard work on their own and not even attacking as a unit. Olsson is probably the most team orientated of them and I think there's always a spot for him on the left hand side, although he did seem to get frustrated and get himself sent off yesterday.

The idea seems to be that these players will keep a dominant possession game, putting the opposition under pressure with clever link up play and attacking movement. In reality all that seems to happen is that one of them gets the ball and runs like a headless chicken until they either lose it or misplace the pass due to lack of support.

Rochina possibly has the potential to be among the elite players in the game, but right now he'd stuggled in League 2 and needs to learn the basics like remembering you have team mates. Formica is struggling with the physical side of the game, keeps the ball momentarily before being hussled off the ball for the most part, people need to get within 10 yards of him to give him a simple option. Hoilett's biggest problem is he offers nothing defensively and again could really improve his decision making at times.

It's glaringly obvious to me that they need to stick Yakubu up front, or even Goodwillie, play Hoilett off them with Olson on the left and then build the rest of the midfield around being a strong unit, retaining possession, breaking up play, the likes of Formica, Rochina etc can be introduced later on if we need a goal, right now they are not strong/consistent enough to be playing from the start, especially away from home.

Meanwhile while all of this is going on with our 'attacking, possession keeping forward line' doing very little the back four and whichever poor sod is left in the middle of the park are being hung out to dry as they just can't cope with the numbers, people are getting dragged out of position all over the place and the space is being exploited, you simply can't do that as this level.

We're practically relying on N'Zonzi to be the main man in the middle of the park at the moment while he still has so much room to grow himself and while being quite a tidy player in terms of breaking up play and giving it simple, he's far from the finished article in that role and given the players in front of him doing very little he needs someone a lot more defensively minded/experienced along side him, not bloody Dunny or Lowe.

Then there's always the fact we don't even have a bloody left back at the club, Givet's been hung out to dry there and Hoilett has been largely to blame but in my opinion he's always been a center back who can do a job at left back, he's not the answer, and neither is Olsson who defensively lacks the positional sense.

Right now in my eyes I see the key points of the team being Robinson, Samba, Olsson, Hoilett, N'Zonzi possibly, other than that it just seems to be a lot of players with 'potential' or settling in to a new club and trying to get their own careers back on track before they are ready to be taking on a project of this magnitude, the rest of them Dann has looked okay but can't say I think we'd be any worse off if we had decided to actually buy a left back and moved Givet there with Nelsen ready to come in as well. Hard to know what to make of Yakubu, done nothing wrong but with the kind of striker he is he's not going to do anything in games that we can't even get the ball to him in the final third.

Right now we need points on the board and a few clean sheets.

I think if fully fit we should be setting up something like this at the moment.

GK - Robinson

RB - Salgado (Who else? Maybe Lowe or even Dann)

CB - ~Samba

CB - Nelsen (Purely for his leadership, we need it more than ever)

LB - Givet (Again who else?)

RM - Bentley/Emerton/Ripley Hell I don't know possibly Dunn or MGP at least they can tackle a bit

CM - N'Zonzi

CM - Grella (I'm almost pinning my hopes on the man made of glass, what hope is there?)

LM - Olsson

SS - Hoilett

CF - Yakubu

S1 - Bunn

S2 - Dann/Salgado/Hanley

S3 - Petrovic

S4 - Rochina

S5 - Formica

S6 - Simon

S7 - Goodwillie/Roberts

I'm hoping I've forgot someone because our team looks ######.

Man this is the first time I've posted something long in a while, it's like building it all up and letting it all out at once. I feel like crying watching my team go down the pan. The glass is most definitely half empty right now.

[67splitscreen]

Kean HAS to go to the drawing board and figure out how to get our shape right and be competitive in midfield. That means:-

1) Dropping Formica and moving Hoilett to second striker

2) Dropping Givet and moving Olsson to left back.

3) Play two of Rochina, Vukcevic and Pedersen on the wings - but selection based not on their attacking qualities but rather who can hold the shape and defend the best

4) Looking to see if there is anyone more solid we can play at right back - Riberio? Lowe? Dann? Hanley? Henley?

5) Find some sort of effective solution to central midfield. Not a passing player, just someone who can break up the play and be aggressive. Sadly it just downs't seem like we have a player like that but it is VITAL to turn someone up. Something as drastic as playing GIvet at centreback and moving one of Nelsen/Dann/Samba in midfield in front of the back four could mildly improve things. We are so poor on this front.

Its backs against the wall time!

In the words of LIppi: the choice of tactical formation is constrained by the qualities of the players available. Thus, selecting the best possible team not only requires finding the right combination of players for the chosen formation, but also finding right formation for the chosen players.

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[Fife Rover]

It really is a joke, we have all these players like Junior, Olsson, Simon, Rochina, Formica full of attacking talent but offering very little defensively and often trying to do all of the hard work on their own and not even attacking as a unit. Olsson is probably the most team orientated of them and I think there's always a spot for him on the left hand side, although he did seem to get frustrated and get himself sent off yesterday.

The idea seems to be that these players will keep a dominant possession game, putting the opposition under pressure with clever link up play and attacking movement. In reality all that seems to happen is that one of them gets the ball and runs like a headless chicken until they either lose it or misplace the pass due to lack of support.

Rochina possibly has the potential to be among the elite players in the game, but right now he'd stuggled in League 2 and needs to learn the basics like remembering you have team mates. Formica is struggling with the physical side of the game, keeps the ball momentarily before being hussled off the ball for the most part, people need to get within 10 yards of him to give him a simple option. Hoilett's biggest problem is he offers nothing defensively and again could really improve his decision making at times.

It's glaringly obvious to me that they need to stick Yakubu up front, or even Goodwillie, play Hoilett off them with Olson on the left and then build the rest of the midfield around being a strong unit, retaining possession, breaking up play, the likes of Formica, Rochina etc can be introduced later on if we need a goal, right now they are not strong/consistent enough to be playing from the start, especially away from home.

Meanwhile while all of this is going on with our 'attacking, possession keeping forward line' doing very little the back four and whichever poor sod is left in the middle of the park are being hung out to dry as they just can't cope with the numbers, people are getting dragged out of position all over the place and the space is being exploited, you simply can't do that as this level.

We're practically relying on N'Zonzi to be the main man in the middle of the park at the moment while he still has so much room to grow himself and while being quite a tidy player in terms of breaking up play and giving it simple, he's far from the finished article in that role and given the players in front of him doing very little he needs someone a lot more defensively minded/experienced along side him, not bloody Dunny or Lowe.

Then there's always the fact we don't even have a bloody left back at the club, Givet's been hung out to dry there and Hoilett has been largely to blame but in my opinion he's always been a center back who can do a job at left back, he's not the answer, and neither is Olsson who defensively lacks the positional sense.

Right now in my eyes I see the key points of the team being Robinson, Samba, Olsson, Hoilett, N'Zonzi possibly, other than that it just seems to be a lot of players with 'potential' or settling in to a new club and trying to get their own careers back on track before they are ready to be taking on a project of this magnitude, the rest of them Dann has looked okay but can't say I think we'd be any worse off if we had decided to actually buy a left back and moved Givet there with Nelsen ready to come in as well. Hard to know what to make of Yakubu, done nothing wrong but with the kind of striker he is he's not going to do anything in games that we can't even get the ball to him in the final third.

Right now we need points on the board and a few clean sheets.

I think if fully fit we should be setting up something like this at the moment.

GK - Robinson

RB - Salgado (Who else? Maybe Lowe or even Dann)

CB - ~Samba

CB - Nelsen (Purely for his leadership, we need it more than ever)

LB - Givet (Again who else?)

RM - Bentley/Emerton/Ripley Hell I don't know possibly Dunn or MGP at least they can tackle a bit

CM - N'Zonzi

CM - Grella (I'm almost pinning my hopes on the man made of glass, what hope is there?)

LM - Olsson

SS - Hoilett

CF - Yakubu

S1 - Bunn

S2 - Dann/Salgado/Hanley

S3 - Petrovic

S4 - Rochina

S5 - Formica

S6 - Simon

S7 - Goodwillie/Roberts

I'm hoping I've forgot someone because our team looks ######.

Man this is the first time I've posted something long in a while, it's like building it all up and letting it all out at once. I feel like crying watching my team go down the pan. The glass is most definitely half empty right now.

Good post Dirk....I can empathise easily with your thoughts, and I also agree mostly with your team choices and conclusions. Just wish that our "manager" could see it too. Trouble is that even if he did see it and picked those players, they would still have to go out with no adequate game plan and just rely on the likes of Nelsen or Samba to somehow communicate the tactics "on the hoof"

[chris]

I think if fully fit we should be setting up something like this at the moment.

GK - Robinson

RB - Salgado (Who else? Maybe Lowe or even Dann)

CB - ~Samba

CB - Nelsen (Purely for his leadership, we need it more than ever)

LB - Givet (Again who else?)

RM - Bentley/Emerton/Ripley Hell I don't know possibly Dunn or MGP at least they can tackle a bit

CM - N'Zonzi

CM - Grella (I'm almost pinning my hopes on the man made of glass, what hope is there?)

LM - Olsson

SS - Hoilett

CF - Yakubu

S1 - Bunn

S2 - Dann/Salgado/Hanley

S3 - Petrovic

S4 - Rochina

S5 - Formica

S6 - Simon

S7 - Goodwillie/Roberts

I'm hoping I've forgot someone because our team looks ######.

Man this is the first time I've posted something long in a while, it's like building it all up and letting it all out at once. I feel like crying watching my team go down the pan. The glass is most definitely half empty right now.

intersting you have a team with one Kean signing and a bench with six Kean signings.

and in fairness they probably are where they belong.

[K-Hod]

Agree totally about Givet, he's been terrible of late. We are so open at the moment, it's most alarming that Kean has done nothing to rectify this.

Worst of all, Kean went down the route of blaming the ref, but Olsson's yellows aside I don't see a case for the 3rd goal.

Olsson was whingeing for whatever reason and got himself booked after their 3rd goal, the second was never a booking as there was just no contact, but with how Best went down, totally understandable why the ref booked him a second time.

We are so bad at the minute it's painful. Citeh are going to smash us next Saturday

[DE.]

It really is a joke, we have all these players like Junior, Olsson, Simon, Rochina, Formica full of attacking talent but offering very little defensively and often trying to do all of the hard work on their own and not even attacking as a unit. Olsson is probably the most team orientated of them and I think there's always a spot for him on the left hand side, although he did seem to get frustrated and get himself sent off yesterday.

The idea seems to be that these players will keep a dominant possession game, putting the opposition under pressure with clever link up play and attacking movement. In reality all that seems to happen is that one of them gets the ball and runs like a headless chicken until they either lose it or misplace the pass due to lack of support.

Rochina possibly has the potential to be among the elite players in the game, but right now he'd stuggled in League 2 and needs to learn the basics like remembering you have team mates. Formica is struggling with the physical side of the game, keeps the ball momentarily before being hussled off the ball for the most part, people need to get within 10 yards of him to give him a simple option. Hoilett's biggest problem is he offers nothing defensively and again could really improve his decision making at times.

It's glaringly obvious to me that they need to stick Yakubu up front, or even Goodwillie, play Hoilett off them with Olson on the left and then build the rest of the midfield around being a strong unit, retaining possession, breaking up play, the likes of Formica, Rochina etc can be introduced later on if we need a goal, right now they are not strong/consistent enough to be playing from the start, especially away from home.

Meanwhile while all of this is going on with our 'attacking, possession keeping forward line' doing very little the back four and whichever poor sod is left in the middle of the park are being hung out to dry as they just can't cope with the numbers, people are getting dragged out of position all over the place and the space is being exploited, you simply can't do that as this level.

We're practically relying on N'Zonzi to be the main man in the middle of the park at the moment while he still has so much room to grow himself and while being quite a tidy player in terms of breaking up play and giving it simple, he's far from the finished article in that role and given the players in front of him doing very little he needs someone a lot more defensively minded/experienced along side him, not bloody Dunny or Lowe.

Then there's always the fact we don't even have a bloody left back at the club, Givet's been hung out to dry there and Hoilett has been largely to blame but in my opinion he's always been a center back who can do a job at left back, he's not the answer, and neither is Olsson who defensively lacks the positional sense.

Right now in my eyes I see the key points of the team being Robinson, Samba, Olsson, Hoilett, N'Zonzi possibly, other than that it just seems to be a lot of players with 'potential' or settling in to a new club and trying to get their own careers back on track before they are ready to be taking on a project of this magnitude, the rest of them Dann has looked okay but can't say I think we'd be any worse off if we had decided to actually buy a left back and moved Givet there with Nelsen ready to come in as well. Hard to know what to make of Yakubu, done nothing wrong but with the kind of striker he is he's not going to do anything in games that we can't even get the ball to him in the final third.

Right now we need points on the board and a few clean sheets.

I think if fully fit we should be setting up something like this at the moment.

GK - Robinson

RB - Salgado (Who else? Maybe Lowe or even Dann)

CB - ~Samba

CB - Nelsen (Purely for his leadership, we need it more than ever)

LB - Givet (Again who else?)

RM - Bentley/Emerton/Ripley Hell I don't know possibly Dunn or MGP at least they can tackle a bit

CM - N'Zonzi

CM - Grella (I'm almost pinning my hopes on the man made of glass, what hope is there?)

LM - Olsson

SS - Hoilett

CF - Yakubu

S1 - Bunn

S2 - Dann/Salgado/Hanley

S3 - Petrovic

S4 - Rochina

S5 - Formica

S6 - Simon

S7 - Goodwillie/Roberts

I'm hoping I've forgot someone because our team looks ######.

Man this is the first time I've posted something long in a while, it's like building it all up and letting it all out at once. I feel like crying watching my team go down the pan. The glass is most definitely half empty right now.

Agree with your post in general, however I'd put Dann at RB (not a natural there but if Salgado's the only other choice...) and Simon on RM.

[RibbleValleyRover]

The only areas I don't have major fears about are:

Keeper- Robbo is solid, sure we have conceded a lot of goals so far but not many can be attributed to mistakes made by him.

Central defenders- Samba is a pretty solid premier league player as is Dann who doesn't look fully fit right now. Givet is a better CB than a LB. Pressure in front of the back four, down the middle and on the flanks is hurting our defensive play more than the performance of our centre backs.

The rest of the positions have question marks or problems. Central midfield for me is the biggest worry by a long way. N'zonzi is hit or miss and the rest of the options don't look good enough to play there either. The funny thing is this has been a huge problem for the last 3-4 years since the loss and decline of Savage, Tugay and Reid. Last year the cracks were papered over with Phil Jones who is such a huge talent that he can play anywhere and Jermaine Jones who looked a decent player towards the end of the season, both have now gone and are badly missed.

It's so blatantly obvious there is just no balance in this team between defense and attack. So what does Kean do? First thing is we really have to hope that Petrovic and N'zonzi start performing, maybe look at Jason Lowe who I believe is a natural midfielder instead of a right back.

If we can't get our defensive issues sorted then the only other option is to try and play a shoot-out mentality, if the opposition scores 2 we score 3, if they score 3 we score 4. Problem with that is I don't recall any side especially one flirting with relegation playing like that and staying up. Blackpool last season was a prime example of a team that played in that way but the lack of clean sheets made them go down.

These are all options under the current manager, I still think however that a new experienced manager with more tactical nous could instill a hard to beat mentality that could cover our obvious problems until the window opens. Sparky did it for us when he came into the Rovers job, as did Allardyce and others have done it at other clubs - Curbishley being another example.

[broadsword]

Spot on there Tyrone.

Kean's pre match comments that he wants to outscore teams says everything about him and his approach to the game. Believing that Rovers can out play and outscore other PL teams is just so naieve, it's laughable.

Looking "generally" at the squad he's assembled, it's a squad built on this belief. IMO though, what he's actully achieved is a squad filled with unproven players of limited ability. All, so called, flair players, but very few, if any, of his signings are performing. Kean has done this, while at the same time neglecting the defence. We are weak and have no options at the back now. All his transfer dealings have been based on one type of player.

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Maybe he was doing that to please Uncle Balaji. Or maybe he didn't identify transfer targets himself at all (wouldn't surprise me).

[Rovermatt]

I honestly believe that a decent manager could do a passable job with the meagre talent we have. We WILL sink if Kean sticks around though.

[Neal]

What's the point, I admire Glen and everyone who protested, but the owners are too stubborn to pot Kean regardless of what we do. Anyway, the next half decent result we have will mean that there is a Kean love in, even if we have ten winless games between now and then.

So the fans should do nothing? I'd also like to know when you think this half decent result is coming?.. I think you may be waiting a while.

Those who stand by and do nothing should be ashamed of themselves and typifies the attitude of most people of this town. If there is to be another demonstration then i shall be there.... Again.

[K-Hod]

It's all well and good sounding off about protests, but when however many hundred turn up and our gates are circa 22000 this season, (granted 18000 of those are rovers fans) it looks like a load of chavvy gobsh1tes that represent a minority of the support.

Not saying this was the case, just what outsiders could well have seen and perceived.

Particularly when you compare it to the Everton protests when they were there in the thousands....

[tomphil]

It's all well and good sounding off about protests, but when however many hundred turn up and our gates are circa 22000 this season, (granted 18000 of those are rovers fans) it looks like a load of chavvy gobsh1tes that represent a minority of the support.

Not saying this was the case, just what outsiders could well have seen and perceived.

Particularly when you compare it to the Everton protests when they were there in the thousands....

There was 300 on evertons march i think, out of 30,000 plus home fans attending the game.

[roverandout]

tired of protests, does absolutely nothing and IF we got a favourable result against man city, the usual mob will come on here giving us stick for it.

[K-Hod]

There was 300 on evertons march i think, out of 30,000 plus home fans attending the game.

I swear it was reported differently... Never mind, but you can see why such a proportionately small march on our part wouldn't make the owners stand up and take note, and why SK is able to wriggle out of it with his 1% claims!

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

SImply a case now of getting on keans back at every home game till he has gone. Loud as possible. Leave venkys in no doubt fans want him out.