[Archived] Steve Keans exciting signings

[Steve Moss]

The thing is---if Venkys have a fortune of 2 billion--------why are they such cheap-skates?

Why buy the club if you're not willing to do it properly?

Having money and keeping money are two very different propositions. Best case scenario, the Raos really are billionaires but are very aware of the saying that "a fool and his money are soon parted." Having been burned by Kentaro/SEM they may be thinking that slow is better, let's figure things out and then act. The problem with this plan is that they got rid of those people who could have given them time (JW, Tom Finn and Sam) and are relying on Kean (the last vestige of those who did so much damage to the club and Venkys' reputation).

Worse case, this is all according to plan.

[philipl]

Kean certainly doesn't know what to do with the players he has signed and Mercerman has got the assessment just about right apart from forgetting Vukcevic (easily done- Kean has forgotten he signed him).

However, I remain optimistic that when we appoint a football manager, there will be pearls to be found amongst the swine.

[chaddyrovers]

Kean certainly doesn't know what to do with the players he has signed and Mercerman has got the assessment just about right apart from forgetting Vukcevic (easily done- Kean has forgotten he signed him).

However, I remain optimistic that when we appoint a football manager, there will be pearls to be found amongst the swine.

I think Kean signed too many attacking midfielders and doesn't know how to fit them into the team.

Kean didn't strenghten the Full Back areas with specialist full backs. This was something that we need to in the summer with quality and Kean didn't!

Dann and Vekcevic are good signings.

Yakubu is an ok signing but nothing so far. But Apart from the Arsenal game we haven't created chances for him at All!!!

BR and MA are awful signings!!!!!

Goodwillie is useful but nothung more.

Kean still doesn't know his best team for sure or his best formation or style of play!!!

[47er]

If we spent 17M in the summer and if Dann accounted for 5 of it, then Kean has thrown away 12M as far as I'm concerned. For evry player he bought I can think of a better one that would have cost less or the same.

[Miker]

Why do people think Dann has been a good signing for us? He's been pretty poor, average at best in all the games I've seen.

He's half the player Samba is, and really no better than Givet or Nelsen (worse even I'd say, as I rate both players highly at CB).

Kean's january signings have been the best so far. Jones on loan, Formica and Rochina.

[Jarvefromossy]

Fat Sam summed it up on Sky Sports yesterday when he said that "Kean's main problem is that he has forgot how to keep a clean sheet. It's all well and good talking about flair and skill in attack but what about when the opposition have the ball! "

He also looked a little uncomfortable talking about it - I'm sure one of the tech whizz's on here can link to it.

[chris]

Fat Sam summed it up on Sky Sports yesterday when he said that "Kean's main problem is that he has forgot how to keep a clean sheet. It's all well and good talking about flair and skill in attack but what about when the opposition have the ball! "

He also looked a little uncomfortable talking about it - I'm sure one of the tech whizz's on here can link to it.

oh blimey when was that?, would like to hear Sam's views on Blackburn and Kean

[47er]

Fat Sam summed it up on Sky Sports yesterday when he said that "Kean's main problem is that he has forgot how to keep a clean sheet. It's all well and good talking about flair and skill in attack but what about when the opposition have the ball! "

He also looked a little uncomfortable talking about it - I'm sure one of the tech whizz's on here can link to it.

What flair and skill in attack? Junior/Ollsen--that's it.

[chaddyrovers]

Fat Sam summed it up on Sky Sports yesterday when he said that "Kean's main problem is that he has forgot how to keep a clean sheet. It's all well and good talking about flair and skill in attack but what about when the opposition have the ball! "

He also looked a little uncomfortable talking about it - I'm sure one of the tech whizz's on here can link to it.

I watched that yesterday on Goals On Sunday and thought he was spot on.

I also thought he was very comfortable talking about rovers and kean!!!

[Hughesy]

From Keans signings – Yakubu needs to start every week, as does Dann & Rochina (Already 4 goals this season), and Vukcevic should also be given more game time.

Petrovic is improving, but isn’t good enough yet although im seeing enough to convince me he will be much better than Andrews ever was. Ribiero/ Anderson are poor, as is new contract boy Blackman – all 3 should be released.

Formica isn’t a bad signing either, although I don’t feel we have found his correct position yet. Goodwillie looks better as a 30 minute impact player for now, but he seems to have that eye for goal, and certainly got things moving for Scotland v Spain the other week.

To start improving we need to decide on our best 11 and stick to it. 2 upfront or at least 1 and 1 in the hole + Roberts nowhere near the team.

[John]

Not sure about starting the Yak every game - speaking to an Everton fan last week and their view is that he will always be very inconsistent because he lacks mobility - also that away from home goes missing too often.

Think he has a role to play, certainly at home matches however we are still lacking a decent striker.

On our new signing, really don't think it helps having a "manager" in charge who does not know their best eleven.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

Why do people think Dann has been a good signing for us? He's been pretty poor, average at best in all the games I've seen.

He's half the player Samba is, and really no better than Givet or Nelsen (worse even I'd say, as I rate both players highly at CB).

Kean's january signings have been the best so far. Jones on loan, Formica and Rochina.

Agree with that. He was all over the place in the first half against Fulham, then could have given 2 penalties away in the second half. It was his man and should have been his header when Chamakh scored Arsenal's 3rd, he let Ba roll him with embarassing ease for Newcastle's 1st and then him and Robinson both missed it for their 3rd. Been a bit better last 2 games but not impressed overall so far. Seems to me people are just bigging him up because he cost so much.

[onlyonejackwalker]

IMV, other than JJ on loan, Kean hasn't made a signing who has made any sort of ongoing impact. Again, IMV, his record in the transfer market stinks for many reasons.

My views:

JJ : took a while to find his feet but he and Phil Jones instrumental from saving Kean's bacon last season

RSC : expensive disaster

Formica (Kean's Batistuta) : at best average - lacks pace and disappears for long periods. £3.5m plus substantial agent fees - stinks

Rochina : could be one of those infuriating bit part players, has skill but will never progress. Spanish clubs weren't queueing for him. £400k + £1.6m agent fees, stinks again.

Myles Anderson (Kean's Chris Smalling) : nothing needs to be said. I maintain this guy would not get a game in the BSB

Goodwillie (Kean's Rooney) : had to fight off interest from Rangers & Blackpool ! Overweight with no pace. Get him fit and maybe a useful bench player.

Ribeiro (Kean's Denis Irwin) : three year deal for this guy who should be named 'Lord Lucan'. If your money, you'd have to ask Kean wtf has gone on here.

Dann : average and not convincing - don't know howe much we've paid but anything >£3m then we've been done

Yak : rumoured that Kean didn't even want him. Think Savage might have got this one right - "he'll score in his first match and he'll then disappear"

Petro (Kean "he has it all") : many supporters prefer Keith Andrews - enough said !

So, again IMO, we would not get our money back on any of Kean's signings and I believe he's signed a crock of sh1te.

I beg anyone to differ with this.

Quite right and exactly what I have been saying since these signings were made. The only suprise being why people thought they would be any different than average journeymen at this level and standard of play.

These were 2-3 million pound players only that were not in high demand from the bigger and better clubs.

[Amo]

The team that finished 10th under Allardyce was no great shakes either. But the manager knew what he was doing.

The players are underperforming because of Kean.

[47er]

The team that finished 10th under Allardyce was no great shakes either. But the manager knew what he was doing.

The players are underperforming because of Kean.

I sort of agree with that. I think the following are genuine Premier League players (although some clearly better than others)-----Robbo, Samba,Givet,Dann,Hoilett,Olsson,Yakubo,N'Zonzi and Salgado was last season. Probably Lowe also.Possibly Simon.

Additionally, when fit(!) Dunn, Pedersen and Nelsen. Have I missed anybody? The squad woefully thin though and injuries later on could be devastating. That's where we will miss Emerton and Diouf,if we don't already.

The rest are either only potentially 1st team players or very doubtful. What makes it worse is that our weaknesses are concentrated on central mid-field, particularly the lack of an enforcer, and up-front.

Vital that some money is spent in January to sort that out.But I don't want Kean to be spending it.

My opinion is that while Kean's transfer policies have brought us to the brink of ruin there is still enough left from Hughes and Sam and we shouldn't be performing as badly as we are.

If we were organised by a decent manager we would just about escape imo. But it has to happen now.

[Sverre]

I'm still baffled as to why Vukcevic has yet to start for rovers in an EPL game. As far as I know he put in a good performance against England, by setting up a goal.

He is (by far) our best set piece taker and best crosser. Is he competing with Olsson on the left wing? What about Olsson at LB and Vukcevic LW, with Olsson overlapping?

Admittedly, I might be disillusioned by his superb technical stats in Football Manager...

[DE.]

I'm still baffled as to why Vukcevic has yet to start for rovers in an EPL game. As far as I know he put in a good performance against England, by setting up a goal.

He is (by far) our best set piece taker and best crosser. Is he competing with Olsson on the left wing? What about Olsson at LB and Vukcevic LW, with Olsson overlapping?

Admittedly, I might be disillusioned by his superb technical stats in Football Manager...

Have you forgotten who our manager is?

[Sverre]

Have you forgotten who our manager is?

Good point!

[greco]

would it be fair or unfair to say, thats its hard to see the players real qualities, as long as we have an unqualified person in charge of the team.?

Take salgado and givet as examples, both lacking pace, especially salgado and yet they are often left unprotected. Playing this way, exposes them and makes them play to their weaknesses, as opposed to their strenghts.

I have a hard time judging the new players, as im not sure how many of them are hindered by captain spike´s tactics.

[JAL]

I'm still baffled as to why Vukcevic has yet to start for rovers in an EPL game. As far as I know he put in a good performance against England, by setting up a goal.

He is (by far) our best set piece taker and best crosser. Is he competing with Olsson on the left wing? What about Olsson at LB and Vukcevic LW, with Olsson overlapping?

Admittedly, I might be disillusioned by his superb technical stats in Football Manager...

Whats the point of having a best crosser if you dont have a forward who can head the ball.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

would it be fair or unfair to say, thats its hard to see the players real qualities, as long as we have an unqualified person in charge of the team.?

Take salgado and givet as examples, both lacking pace, especially salgado and yet they are often left unprotected. Playing this way, exposes them and makes them play to their weaknesses, as opposed to their strenghts.

I have a hard time judging the new players, as im not sure how many of them are hindered by captain spike´s tactics.

Know what you mean. I've always wondered just how good are our players because so much of it depends on the manager. Under Allardyce many of them looked top-half standard but then was Sam (or Sam's tactics) making them look better than they actually were? Same with Kean but the other way round. But how good actually is the squad taking the manager out of the equation?

Taking the blue and white tinted specs off and for me in terms of standard:

Samba and Hoilett are top 6.

Olsson and Robinson are top half.

Dann and Nzonzi are mid-table.

And the rest are bottom half/relegation, some have potential to be better but plenty of players (particularly foreign ones who have to adapt) never reach their potential.

So I'd say no better than 14th/15th. Someone posted up a table recently of the net spend of PL clubs over the last 10 years, and Rovers were the only team in the negative (and quite a big negative it was too). If as a club you're forced to sell your best 1/2 players every season, eventually you won't be left with an awful lot. Not just Kean would struggle at Rovers, most would struggle because the below-average quality of players make it an extremely tough job, which is why when we had someone who could do it it was absolutely criminal to sack him.

[chris]

It's very common for Blackburn fans to big players up "because" they haven't played.

Is it possible that Simon is not very good?

I've not seen him play (expect Arsenal) but 2 million of a 25 year old, what are we meant to expect?

He's not going to get in the team a head of Hoilett and we already are leeking goals so he can;t play in midefield at the moment.

Another luxury player?

[LeChuck]

I'm another who is really disappointed with Scott Dann. He looks nothing like a £7 million defender. Perhaps we're finding out why no other clubs went anywhere near him, and why he was relegated last year.

I'm definitely not writing him off as a bad signing yet, but we haven't kept a clean sheet all season and he hasn't looked anywhere near as solid as we were lead to believe he is.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

I'm another who is really disappointed with Scott Dann. He looks nothing like a £7 million defender. Perhaps we're finding out why no other clubs went anywhere near him, and why he was relegated last year.

I'm definitely not writing him off as a bad signing yet, but we haven't kept a clean sheet all season and he hasn't looked anywhere near as solid as we were lead to believe he is.

I see his sidekick Johnson hasn't set the World on fire at Wolves. He's coming in for a lot of criticism from the Wolves fans according to the papers.

[LeChuck]

Wasn't Johnson the more highly rated of the two by the Birmingham fans as well? I think Dann's age made him (apparently) more desirable in the transfer market, but I'm sure Johnson was seen as the better performer.

Givet's second half performance against Fulham was miles better than anything Dann has shown so far.