[Archived] P-R-O-T-E-S-T spells Protest

[m1st]

I must admit the idea is tempting, particularly if there was going to be a mass protest by season ticket holders; although, if I thought that lots of us were going to boycott the game, I'd go to see my local team [Rochdale] playing a 6-pointer against Wycombe Wanderers, rather than going to watch Stanley.

I've got grim forebodings about the Citeh game.

[tomphil]

Kean got boo'ed out of the Emporium in Clitheroe last week!

Tell us more lol Anyway it proves what a goon he is goin out round local places like that if he wants to be taken seriously as a manager he should be keepin a bit more of a low profile but as the old sayin goes 'give him enough rope'.

[ABBEY]

but as the old sayin goes 'give him enough rope'.

and tafkap will longridge bondage him up jeffery hill with his sheep "friends"

[Sparky Marky]

Get a few banners and stand on that island near mcdonalds on bolton road. Youd soon attract a couple of thousand.

I hope a good thrashing off citeh will finally get him the shove

[ABBEY]

I've got an idea. Why not just do a protest down at Ewood but see if you can get more than a few hundred bothering to join in? Best pick a non-rainy day.

Seriously, though, when results are all that matter, why bother with any kind of protest at all? If we start winning, he'll stay. If we continue losing, he'll go. Not sure if I'm being thick but isn't it really that simple?

few hundred or 700? lets see who do i believe ...proven liar keans 250 or the police ? the one i asked was one of the official evidence gatherers and he said 750 .

yea lets just fiddle whilst ewood burns ostrich style.

[47er]

I've got an idea. Why not just do a protest down at Ewood but see if you can get more than a few hundred bothering to join in? Best pick a non-rainy day.

Seriously, though, when results are all that matter, why bother with any kind of protest at all? If we start winning, he'll stay. If we continue losing, he'll go. Not sure if I'm being thick but isn't it really that simple?

You mean "give him some more time" then?

We are losing! 4 out of 6 so far. Don't know how many out of the 27 games Kean has been in charge that we've lost but I'm sure its disgracefully high.

It really is simple-----he should have gone by now.

[BPF]

I've got an idea. Why not just do a protest down at Ewood but see if you can get more than a few hundred bothering to join in? Best pick a non-rainy day.

Seriously, though, when results are all that matter, why bother with any kind of protest at all? If we start winning, he'll stay. If we continue losing, he'll go. Not sure if I'm being thick but isn't it really that simple?

Under that logic he'd have gone last season..

Why do the pro-Kean people find this so hard to grasp?

[Guest Rovers4Good]

Dear All,

If you're planning another protest against Steve Kean's management next Saturday, I've had an idea for an alternative approach...

Instead of protesting outside Ewood before the match with Man City (which wasn't a great success last time, to be honest), why not avoid the game altogether and go to watch Accy Stanley?

Hear me out...

Get as many people as possible to head to Stanley, all wearing something which shows our famous Blue and White and voicing our concerns over Kean. We can circle the idea around newspapers and forums this week to drum up support and publicity. There's also the football league show on Saturday night and if we had a few hundred people there it would definitely get a mention. The LT couldn't avoid reporting on it either. And on top of all that, we do something good for our poorer neighbours by boosting their coffers for a game.

What do you think?

COYB,

Matt

Kean's Premier League record in black and white:

Played 27 Won 6 Drawn 8 Lost 13 Goals For 31 Goals Against 45

Points 26 - an average of less than 1 point per game

Only 4 clean sheets

Stretch Kean's record out over a whole season and we'd have only 36 points. That is relegation form.

I was all for giving him a chance, but what has he achieved to deserve being in charge of our beloved club? It's our right as fans to have someone more capable in charge.

Bloody hell, are you John Coleman in disguise? They'll do anything to get people through the door

[AndyC]

For the record I am NOT pro-Kean. I don't like the guy. I'm just pointing out that results will seal his fate, not protests. Whatever will be, will be.

I have to disagree.

Unless there is sustained chants / banners etc inside the ground when the camera's are rolling, the message just won't be getting back to pune.

the brothers finally attend a match and they see a win and very little insdie the ground to suggest the fans want kean out.

Fix inside the ground before you do anything else.

[T4E]

Seriously, though, when results are all that matter, why bother with any kind of protest at all? If we start winning, he'll stay. If we continue losing, he'll go. Not sure if I'm being thick but isn't it really that simple?

No it's not, and yes you are.

If it was that simple, he'd be gone by now. Just as Ince was when he had a better record than Kean. The difference? Back then we had a footballing administration that understood how it works. Venky's cannot be trusted to figure this out for themselves in a timely manner, so we have to force the issue.

[Jock]

Has to be action in the ground,anyone remember Bobby Saxton feeling the heat in the Nuttal St stand lol?

[Andy]

With injuries to senior players even though of which, Gael is making serious mistakes, Salgado is surely past his use-by date (much as I admire him) and Dann is not yet back up to speed after previous injuries next week's City match is set to be even more of an endurance test than I had feared.

I think you've got the wrong thread.

This is about a 2nd protest, not the 'Let's Make Excuses For Kean's Incompetence' thread.

[Kamy100]

Personally think that the best way to protest would be inside the ground. You have to remember that Kean has told them constantly that the vast majority of fans support him, thus far there has been very little dissent within the ground so that gives weight to Kean's theory.

So for example if Rovers are getting tonked going into the last few minutes against City, the majority of fans chanting against Kean at that point would have a big impact on the owners who are expected to be at the game on Saturday.

[Guest Rovers4Good]

Listen the protest has been done so doing another is simply ludacris.

The only way now is to air your views during a match and by this i mean get behind the team as much as you feel possible and if we are getting well beat then yes call for Keans head but another protest will make you look like fools.

[Neal]

Anyway possible, inside, outside the ground before the game, during, afterwards... A protest needs to happen to show Kean, the owners and the media that it is a MAJORITY of the fans who want rid of Steve Kean.

[PAFELL]

Anyway possible, inside, outside the ground before the game, during, afterwards... A protest needs to happen to show Kean, the owners and the media that it is a MAJORITY of the fans who want rid of Steve Kean.

I think you are right. I cannot see any other choice.

[Amo]

I think you are right. I cannot see any other choice.

For any protest to work, you need bodies, otherwise it looks a disgruntled minority(something Kean was quick to use).

A few hundred out of tens of thousands of Rovers fans doesn't tell the overall story.

[PAFELL]

For any protest to work, you need bodies, otherwise it looks a disgruntled minority(something Kean was quick to use).

A few hundred out of tens of thousands of Rovers fans doesn't tell the overall story.

Nope, but you'll never get thousands marching. Thousands may chant - kean out - at a match - I suggest, that is the only way a strong message to the owners can be delivered.

[m1st]

Personally think that the best way to protest would be inside the ground. You have to remember that Kean has told them constantly that the vast majority of fans support him, thus far there has been very little dissent within the ground so that gives weight to Kean's theory.

So for example if Rovers are getting tonked going into the last few minutes against City, the majority of fans chanting against Kean at that point would have a big impact on the owners who are expected to be at the game on Saturday.

This extract [My emphasis] from the report in this morning's "Guardian" shows that the message is being reported.

"Cabaye's excellent," said Kean. "So we tried to minimise the damage his passing could do."

Endeavour does not always spell success, and it was not long after Ba had opened the scoring by meeting Leon Best's cross, turning Scott Dann and beating Paul Robinson with a rising shot, that the Rovers fans serenaded Kean with the afternoon's first refrain of "You don't know what you're doing".

[@matthewstanger]

Put this is a New Topic, but it was rightly locked by the admin. Don't really need to start a new thread to raise this idea, so here it is:

So the Accy Stanley suggestion didn't go down too well, and I appreciate people's thoughts on that. But I still think that Kean needs to go sooner rather than later.

A message must be given to Venky's so that they realise how the fans feel about Kean's management.

I don't believe they watch all the matches. I don't believe they will hear people chanting anti-Kean songs at Ewood. So I think we need something visual to attract their attention.

The idea - With 5 minutes to go in the Man City match on Saturday, we all turn our backs on the Kean. We turn to face away from the pitch for 30-60 seconds.

The press cameras go wild. They're snap happy at the story. The pictures are in every Sunday paper. People are talking about it. Venky's will obviously end up seeing the images. It will make a bold statement.

Thoughts?

COYB,

Matt

*Andy pointed out that if we're losing, some fans might be leaving by that stage so it won't have the desired affect.

So we could do it after 5 minutes, then get on with supporting the team for the rest of the match?

*And Seedstral said that it might not work because Citeh fans will just ridicule it by doing the Poznan

But that's actually why I think it will work really well - because the action will relate to both teams.

From working in journalism, I'm pretty sure the papers will run with photos and a caption along the lines of:

"Doing the Poznan? Blackburn Rovers fans object to Steve Kean's management by turning their backs on him."

Surely there's no harm in trying it? We can sing chants as well, but the visual statement is another angle that could get to Venky's even if they don't hear the chants. And if nothing comes of it, you can all just turn your backs on me in the forum!

[rover1995]

We definitely need to do something at the City game, our great club is slowly getting ruined, we just can't stand for this and need to take serious action immediately. How about after the game outside the Jack Walker reception? Of course it will have to be a negative result for this to happen.

[chris]

aren't you still turning your backs on the players, they will see it?

I would put you ideas to Oztheman and Glen they are highly respected in regards to the anti-Kean support which is now at 95%.

Seen a few ideas and they look great.

I trust them two to deliever and most importantly put the effort in to make it happen.

Good you are thinking ouside the box though.

[@matthewstanger]

We definitely need to do something at the City game, our great club is slowly getting ruined, we just can't stand for this and need to take serious action immediately. How about after the game outside the Jack Walker reception? Of course it will have to be a negative result for this to happen.

With the turning our backs idea, the press cameras will already be there inside the stadium so there's bound to be pictures.

Outside after the game might not work because there could not be any cameras and people might just decide to head home because of traffic/weather/can't be arsed etc.

Also, Venky's cannot avoid seeing pictures that are in national newspapers - their PR team will definitely tell them about it even if they don't watch the match.

[@matthewstanger]

aren't you still turning your backs on the players, they will see it?

I would put you ideas to Oztheman and Glen they are highly respected in regards to the anti-Kean support which is now at 95%.

Seen a few ideas and they look great.

I trust them two to deliever and most importantly put the effort in to make it happen.

Good you are thinking ouside the box though.

Yea, to be honest I'm following their lead in trying to come up with ideas. The way they circled the protest talk last time was first class, all the papers were talking about it! I think it's good to have as many ideas in the melting pot as possible.

I see your point about turning backs on the players as well, but if we do it after 5 minutes, then turn around and sing positive chants about the team, the negative feeling will evaporate.

But the images the press will have will remain, and be in the newspapers the next day.

So 30-60 seconds of turning our backs and then we can sing our hearts out for the team (or sing for Kean to go) and come win or lose, the dissatisfaction over Kean's reign will still be mentioned the next day and the 95% will have made their point without it having a massive negative affect on the team.

[Hi Mack]

If we turn our backs it will just look like we are celebrating one of Citys goals as they do the Poznan celebration!

I think an exodus to the concourse for 5 minutes will do the job!

Would need a bit of communication though!