[Archived] Preview of Man City 1st Oct

[T4E]

Another one for City and we go rock bottom again.

Worst accountant ever.

[LeChuck]

Didn't say it was a bad signing mate, I reckon Dann is a very good signing but to much of a luxury when others where available

Totally agree. We would be a much stronger team with a £7 million midfielder and Givet at centre back.

Having good personnel in defence is pointless for us at the moment because there is no leadership in midfield.

[ABBEY]

Can't believe every goal we stood off and noone did a "hendry" and stuck a foot in and thro themselves at the ball! Knob nuts had them standing off and like rabbits in headlights ! Don't know which team embarrassed me more this weekend rovers or broncos!

[CAPT KAYOS]

Arsenal have sold their star players are not the force they were and I said we would have to be LUCKY, we were very lucky.

Man City have invested something like half a billion.

The only way I could see us beating Man City was if we put a bus infront of the goal.

I'm not denying that big team lose to small clubs, but its fairly rare.

As much as I dislike Kean, we have to consider that Man City are justr a much much better side.

That Silva is magic, and Nasri too and their £30 million fourth choice striker had a decent game too.

And we sold ours (1 ) if we are going down that route

It wasn't the aspect that Citeh are a better side ... that's for paper arguments, a case of should be given their financial side now but doesn't mean to say they are on any given occasion.

I don't think we would have won even with a bus parked in front of goal by Jason Brown given the set up and performance that was served up.

Citeh didn't have to get out of first gear/break sweat - most people can accept defeat against the so called big rich teams, what can't be accepted is the inept, clueless, lethargic, disorganised, gutless damp squid performances we have seen.

[LeftWinger]

Coyle will rightly be afforded more time than Kean ought to get because he's been successful in the past.

It's not rocket science, yet you still seem to want to give Kean more time.

The mind boggles.

Rovers league record under Kean:

P28 W6 D8 L14 PTS26 - Abysmal

Coyle's record for Bolton - while Kean has been Rovers boss:

P28 W7 D2 L19 PTS23 - Even worse

So while Kean has been truely horrific as Rovers boss, and I want him sacking, it should also be noted that the great Owen Coyle has managed to lose 19 of his last 28 league games. I know a few Bolton fans who want him out.

Clearly Alan Nixon is a fine judge of a manager.

[T4E]

Coyle's record for Bolton - while Kean has been Rovers boss:

P28 W7 D2 L19 PTS23 - Even worse

Wow, thats really taken me by surprise. Appalling record, he hasn't been there that long so his overall record can't be too much better.

[Neal]

Thing is, what makes Coyle a good manager is his attitude. His post match interview he said... "All i've had is 4 years of praise and i think it's only fair that it's my turn to take some criticism. I shall take it on the chin and I will turn it around. The fans are right to be upset."

Kean doesn't have the spine for that.

[Gav]

Wow, thats really taken me by surprise. Appalling record, he hasn't been there that long so his overall record can't be too much better.

Surprised me also, but Coyle has a track record of success, and I'd have every faith in the man to turn things around, regardless of his record so far.

[LeftWinger]

Surprised me also, but Coyle has a track record of success, and I'd have every faith in the man to turn things around, regardless of his record so far.

The man is over-rated. Won 1 of his last 12 league games with the Dingles too - a terrible run started in a 3-2 defeat at Ewood

For the record - as over-rated as I think Coyle is, he's still twice the man Kean is.

[Gav]

The man is over-rated. Won 1 of his last 12 league games with the Dingles too - a terrible run started in a 3-2 defeat at Ewood

For the record - as over-rated as I think Coyle is, he's still twice the man Kean is.

I don't agree, what he did with them down the road was remarkable, the cup runs also. Think what could have been had the board backed him at bumley, I shudder to think

But I do agree he's twice the manager Kean is and more...

[CAPT KAYOS]

And doesn't live in Europe dreamland or spout drivel!

[jim mk2]

Most managers have their sell-by dates and rarely last beyond a couple of years - they either get found out tactically or they run out of ideas.

Coyle had a dreadful run in his last few months at Burnley and the same is happening now at Bolton so it might not be a coincidence. Coyle have had some hard matches but the manner of their defeats doesn't bode well and they also lost at home to Norwich - not a good sign.

Having said all that would be very happy for Bolton to panic and sack Coyle now and Venky's have a moment of inspiration and install him at Ewood in place of the bald plonker.

Won't happen of course.

[DE.]

The main difference between Coyle and Kean is that one worked his way up from the lower leagues, first in Scotland then in the Championship, and the Bolton fans were happy for him to come in. The other never held a managerial role in his life, the reasons for making him manager remain an utter mystery, and nobody wanted him to become manager in the first place.

The Bolton fans won't turn on Coyle yet because he has a fairly successful managerial history, albeit a short one, a good attitude and a decent awareness of tactical issues. All things that Kean lacks. I'd take Coyle over Kean in a heartbeat - one is a manager and earned time to turn his bad run around, the other isn't and hasn't.

[ABBEY]

heard one today about a young rovers fan in jw and when city scored he said good goal and the people around him got him thrown out(rovers fan) and then his dad got cuffed for trying to explain what had gone on leaving a 13 year old stranded.

[LeftWinger]

The Bolton fans won't turn on Coyle yet because he has a fairly successful managerial history, albeit a short one, a good attitude and a decent awareness of tactical issues. All things that Kean lacks. I'd take Coyle over Kean in a heartbeat - one is a manager and earned time to turn his bad run around, the other isn't and hasn't.

I know some already have turned on him. They need points and quick - 11 defeats in the last 12 Premier League games must go down as one of the worst runs of any team in the history of the Premier League. Even Kean has managed to pick up 12 points in his last 12 games.

[DE.]

I know some already have turned on him. They need points and quick - 11 defeats in the last 12 Premier League games must go down as one of the worst runs of any team in the history of the Premier League. Even Kean has managed to pick up 12 points in his last 12 games.

Agreed, on the other hand at the end of last season they had some horrendous injury problems and their fixture list at the start of this season has been awful. They've got four winnable games coming up - I fully expect them to gain upwards of 7 points from those. They're just keeping the bottom spot warm for us.

[booth]

Coyle is a decent manager on a bad run.

Kean is a bad manager who can't string two wins together.

Big difference.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Coyle is a decent manager on a bad run.

Kean is a bad manager who can't string two wins together.

Big difference.

There is no difference - their points return is awful - and we only one point apart at the bottom on the league.

As many have said - judge Kean on his points return - same with Coyle.

[Mattyblue]

There is no difference - their points return is awful - and we only one point apart at the bottom on the league.

As many have said - judge Kean on his points return - same with Coyle.

One difference, Coyle deserves more time to turn things around, due to his past record, Kean doesn't.

That's not saying he is pressure free, those results keep coming and he'll be out as well, that's the name of the game.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

One difference, Coyle deserves more time to turn things around, due to his past record, Kean doesn't.

That's not saying he is pressure free, those results keep coming and he'll be out as well, that's the name of the game.

He didn't turn things around at Burnley - 1 win in 12 was it ?

[walk down bolton road]

One difference, Coyle deserves more time to turn things around, due to his past record, Kean doesn't.

That's not saying he is pressure free, those results keep coming and he'll be out as well, that's the name of the game.

And Matty the BWFC board will take action,not like the bungling idiots we have to endure.

[booth]

He didn't turn things around at Burnley - 1 win in 12 was it ?

Are you serious? Or are you just arguing for the sake of it?

Did you see the state of the squad he took up to the Premier League? The guy performed a miracle at Burnley with what he had to work with. He also had the club buzzing and attendance were up. Just compare that to the work of Laws and Howe since.

Kean on the other hand has achieved nothing of any note ever, and now has our historic club on its backside within 9 months.

[booth]

A guy in his fifties near me started chanting Kean Out quite angrily, and a steward was eyeballing him. Then a few others started chanting it and he started walking forward as if he was going to reprimand someone. Then the whole stand erupted with it and the steward had a think about it and left it. I had a feeling he was going to tell them to shut up and sit down. With some of these other horror stories now I'm pretty sure he was, or he was going to throw him out! This is a fellow who has been sitting in that seat with his family for the last five years or so.

And what was with the stewards taking bottles of water from people on the hottest day of the year? I heard one guy being told it was because you could buy beverages in the stand. The problem with that is the speed of service, there's no way all those people could have been served in the Riverside. A few people said they wouldn't be coming again, and it wasn't right to take drinks from children on a very hot day.

[barry_]

heard one today about a young rovers fan in jw and when city scored he said good goal and the people around him got him thrown out(rovers fan) and then his dad got cuffed for trying to explain what had gone on leaving a 13 year old stranded.

Something similar did happen near to me but the chap who got cuffed was doing a lot more than explaining (and so was his son)

The behaviour of the stewards (and the police to an extent) towards HOME supporters was over the top on Saturday. Where I was... JW lower W01... there was a group of no more that 30 (who normally go in the DE) singing/standing and a group of stewards/police stood by the corner flag just staring at us the whole match and then to make matters worse the police started videoing us (someone asked why and was told 'evidence gathering' ... this is also a regular occurence in the DE when home fans are there)

All this did was upset the people who were there because right next to them was the away end with no 'evidence gathering' and just the usual pitchside stewarding.

[tony gale's mic]

There is no difference - their points return is awful - and we only one point apart at the bottom on the league.

As many have said - judge Kean on his points return - same with Coyle.

Someone who has achieved more in the past deserves more time as they have greater chance of turning it round.

That's just common sense.

Also Bolton have had a much tougher run of fixtures than we have.

I do think though that Coyle's apparent demise is further proof that it is almost impossible to achieve good results in this league on a budget whilst attempting to play attractive football.