[Archived] Protest at the City match.

[tony gale's mic]

I reckon if you polled all the fans yesterday then there would be a significant portion who would give him more time, at least 10%i would guess more like 25%, from my experience people dislike change in most walks of life, even if you say 1000 people stayed behind to protest there were still 90% who did not.

25% fans of Rovers fans want him to stay?

Total gubbins.

I'd like to think our fanbase isn't that stupid.

[mark1875]

I reckon if you polled all the fans yesterday then there would be a significant portion who would give him more time, at least 10%i would guess more like 25%, from my experience people dislike change in most walks of life, even if you say 1000 people stayed behind to protest there were still 90% who did not.

the majority of which had long since fled for the exits fed up of the tripe being served by kean week after week

[Billy Castell]

That is the general tone of a few posters to any who have different views, not a literal quotation. Calling people dickheads for example is a bit strong and rather personal (I will accept the warning for that naughty word). The vitriol towards mhead on another thread is simply rude, even if he is rather........optimistic about Kean's abilities. There is no need to be so nasty to fellow fans and make yourself look like gobby internet warriors. No doubt it will be my turn soon, now Roversmum and mhead have had abuse.

[Gav]

I don't talk to everyone like this. I'm still bitter at you for being part of the reason Sam was fired, which you still haven't acknowledged fully in here. I completely understand why though. Everyone that wanted Sam out has gone quiet regarding that matter.

You're a good guy Neal, but that one thing is unforgivable.

The whole Allardyce saga has been done, dusted and put to bed, thats why we've gone quiet on the subject, nothing more to say on the matter.

I'm sure Neil isn't losing any sleep either waiting for forgiveness....

KEAN OUT!

[cn174]

One flaw is that 90 odd people on brfcs does not give a true reflection of Rovers fans across the boards opinion on kean. Its not 1% as kean thinks but neither is it 99%.

In the world of statistics, the brfcs poll (currently 593 votes) is statistically valid to +/- 4% margin of error to cover a population of 60,000 people, which pretty much covers Rovers fans. Of course the sample on here will be skewed a bit (i.e. only people who use the internet have answered) but overall it will be pretty representative. That means if you asked all Rovers fans do you want kean out, that somewhere between 92% and 100% of people will say Yes - which I don't think would be far from the truth right now.

[Mattyblue]

You can put it to bed all you like GAV, but that sacking started a spiral downwards at this football club that shows no signs of abating.

One of the worst decisions for generations.

[tony gale's mic]

That is the general tone of a few posters to any who have different views, not a literal quotation. Calling people dickheads for example is a bit strong and rather personal (I will accept the warning for that naughty word). The vitriol towards mhead on another thread is simply rude, even if he is rather........optimistic about Kean's abilities. There is no need to be so nasty to fellow fans and make yourself look like gobby internet warriors. No doubt it will be my turn soon, now Roversmum and mhead have had abuse.

I haven't seen roversmum get anything which could be termed as abuse. She has been criticised for constantly being pro-Venky's in her posts by a few people including myself though.

[den]

I reckon if you polled all the fans yesterday then there would be a significant portion who would give him more time, at least 10%i would guess more like 25%, from my experience people dislike change in most walks of life, even if you say 1000 people stayed behind to protest there were still 90% who did not.

Weeks ago, a yougov independent poll in the LT, showed 80% of fans wanted Kean out imy. Which way do you think that figure has moved since?

[tony gale's mic]

The whole Allardyce saga has been done, dusted and put to bed, thats why we've gone quiet on the subject, nothing more to say on the matter.

I'm sure Neil isn't losing any sleep either waiting for forgiveness....

KEAN OUT!

Says the only guy on the forum with an Allardyce themed signature.

Congratulations, you've just outdone yourself.

[Gav]

Dear oh dear. I'll just answer the question and not point out the blatant error in your post, given so many have done it before me.

Yes, I wanted to keep Big Sam. Liked the guy, personally. Football was crap, but got results, and he had the ability to persuade big names and good players to come in. With Venky's backing, Raul would be here by now, and I think we'd be in Europe.

Still finding it amazingly hard to trust some Rovers fans, as it's the same fickle people that wanted Sam out that now want Kean out, yet refuse to take even a little bit of responsibility for us being in the position we're in now. Venky's listened to this minority, they got what they wanted against everyone else's wishes. That's the depressing thing about all of this.

I'm a firm believer that Sam wouldn't have been fired if that minority hadn't spoken out against him. And it's those supporters I hold responsible for this. They can proclaim that they have the best interests of the club at heart, but they didn't, don't, and never will.

Those who supported Sam and the team? Hold your head high. You didn't contribute to the clubs downfall. Take pride in that.

Laying the blame for Allardyces sacking at the feet of supporters is absolute BUNKUM.

The fans played no part in his sacking whatsoever, do you actually go to games? if so can you tell me 1 instance of Allardyce out bellowing from the terraces, or protests? anything that contributed to him getting the boot?

[Tom]

Just looking at the brfcs poll- it is 96-4.

On that basis 9 might well go 9-0 as more than three quarters of those willing to give Kean a chance after the Arsenal and Orient games now seem to think Kean has had his chance against Newcstle and City and flopped it badly.

So yes I would expect near unanimity for Kean to go now if the Fans Forum are indeed ordinary fans.

I think we may have had 1 person of the 9 be in the more time camp last time.

I'd say that represents a pretty fair cross section.

[K-Hod]

That is the general tone of a few posters to any who have different views, not a literal quotation. Calling people dickheads for example is a bit strong and rather personal (I will accept the warning for that naughty word). The vitriol towards mhead on another thread is simply rude, even if he is rather........optimistic about Kean's abilities. There is no need to be so nasty to fellow fans and make yourself look like gobby internet warriors. No doubt it will be my turn soon, now Roversmum and mhead have had abuse.

If people start going all 'radio rovers' and being overly positive without any justification on us and can't see the wood for the trees when it comes to Kean, then damn right they should be called out on that. Regardless of how many posts they have on this site.

Name calling is a bit juvenile though.

[Gav]

Says the only guy on the forum with an Allardyce themed signature.

Congratulations, you've just outdone yourself.

Because we're mates again I removed the quote from yourself claiming to be a doctor, was the best I could come up with at the time

[trs]

You can put it to bed all you like GAV, but that sacking started a spiral downwards at this football club that shows no signs of abating.

One of the worst decisions for generations.

The spiral downwards started when Kean was appointed.

[Stuart]

The spiral downwards started when Kean was appointed.

Potayto potahto

[DazRover]

Exactly the same thoughts,1966 my first game funny enough we were relegated that year but we had players then who would put this lot to shame.

George Sharples

Barry Hole

Mike Harrison

John Conolly

Couldn't put it any better, was willing to give the guy a try but think the point has come where a change needs to be made. Don't like the personal insults against the guy but the performance yesterday spoke volumes. If we get the right guy in we could stay up, lets hope.

RTID

[trs]

Potayto potahto

Probably so...game of opinions an all that.

[Mattyblue]

The spiral downwards started when Kean was appointed.

No, it was when he was sacked, why? Because Venky's had nobody lined up to replace him.

[mark1875]

Those who supported Sam and the team? Hold your head high. You didn't contribute to the clubs downfall. Take pride in that.

unbelievable!!! so a section of the fans are to blame for the fact were in a mess now are they?

[chris]

unbelievable!!! so a section of the fans are to blame for the fact were in a mess now are they?

Yeah I was a Sam supporter and thought he would have turned us into a top 6 side with Venkys cash, who knows

But nobody who wanted Sam out wanted that idiot Kean incharge.

Thats a bit harsh.

[mark1875]

anybody who thinks that Venky's sacked Sam Allardyce because a couple of hundred on an internet forum were against him is ridiculous! there were no mass protesting, yet it was the fans who got him sacked? serious delusion.

and this comment from your article the other week:

he6rt6gr6m, 2 weeks ago

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I don’t want rid of Kean. I’m saying ‘who wouldn’t take Hughes?’

I don’t like Kean’s current record. But I’m not opening the exit door for him either.

and those people who "don't want rid of kean" are far more damaging to this club than those who wanted Allardyce out

[trs]

No, it was when he was sacked, why? Because Venky's had nobody lined up to replace him.

I lie in the wanted Sam out camp but certainly didn't want a non football manager in (ie Kean)

After 40 years of following Rovers I was being driven away under Sam's leadership because I was bored to death watching it.

And just to add fuel to any counter arguments I was one who wanted Sam IN, in the first place because I knew he would probably save us from relegation.

Contradictory...possibly so, however I know I am far from alone with this.

I think we were all shocked when in the coming days after Sam's departure that a top class manger hadn't been lined up.

[tony gale's mic]

I lie in the wanted Sam out camp but certainly didn't want a non football manager in (ie Kean)

After 40 years of following Rovers I was being driven away under Sam's leadership because I was bored to death watching it.

And just to add fuel to any counter arguments I was one who wanted Sam IN, in the first place because I knew he would probably save us from relegation.

Contradictory...possibly so, however I know I am far from alone with this.

I think we were all shocked when in the coming days after Sam's departure that a top class manger hadn't been lined up.

Speak for yourself. I wasn't remotely surprised, though I didn't expect Steve Kean to be our manager.

The sacking of a manager who had got us to top 10 finishes was so utterly clueless a decision that I couldn't have seen them appointing a good manager. Let alone the fact that Rovers aren't exactly the most fashionable club going. I would have been shocked if we did appoint a top class manager.

When you sack a manager, the following things are an absolute necessity. Firstly, he needs to be doing a bad job. Secondly there needs to be multiple candidates who could do a considerably better job and who would realistically come to Ewood. Neither were true in the sacking of Sam, therefore the sacking made no sense.

What a shame you got so bored of us winning so many games at Ewood. You don't deserve to support Rovers.

[Gav]

Speak for yourself. I wasn't remotely surprised, though I didn't expect Steve Kean to be our manager.

The sacking of a manager who had got us to top 10 finishes was so utterly clueless a decision that I couldn't have seen them appointing a good manager. Let alone the fact that Rovers aren't exactly the most fashionable club going. I would have been shocked if we did appoint a top class manager.

When you sack a manager, the following things are an absolute necessity. Firstly, he needs to be doing a bad job. Secondly there needs to be multiple candidates who could do a considerably better job and who would realistically come to Ewood. Neither were true in the sacking of Sam, therefore the sacking made no sense.

What a shame you got so bored of us winning so many games at Ewood. You don't deserve to support Rovers.

Is this your latest throw away remark to try and get under peoples skin, read it a few times recently, he's just told you he's been going for 40yrs, to say he doesn't deserve to support them is laughable TGM.

[tony gale's mic]

Is this your latest throw away remark to try and get under peoples skin, read it a few times recently, he's just told you he's been going for 40yrs, to say he doesn't deserve to support them is laughable TGM.

That's the first time I've said it so you must be hallucinating.

Don't give a toss how many years he's been going. Plenty of people on here would get season tickets every season if they lived in or around Blackburn. Granted there's a few who travel hundreds of miles every other weekend but that's because their circumstances allow them to.

But if you get bored by your team winning games, by giving the best sides in the country a game at Ewood (as we did under Sam, though obviously some of the away performances were shocking) then I honestly don't see the point of being there.

If I had a button where I could've made the football under Sam a bit prettier I would have pressed it, but never at the expense of seeing my team win.