[Archived] Venky's - Do You Support Them As Owners Of The Club?

[roversmum]

It was all considered at the time, Abbey. There's no harm in considering things. Sometimes they work out, sometimes they don't.

[Rovers_786]

Premier League clubs will never just up and move abroad, there are a million reasons why it's not feasible. There is a huge difference between the proposed "39th game" and a club moving to a different continent.

The conspiracy theories are ridiculous. These are just three that I have read in the last 24 hours:

• Jerome Anderson paid to buy Rovers and Venky's are just a front to hide this fact
  
• Venky's intend to move the club to India
  
• Steve Kean remains in the job because he is smuggling gold for Venky's on his monthly trips
  

There are probably loads more doing the rounds.

The venkys brought the club there self and jerome was not involved,because I saw there interview when there brought us on news, the clips are on YouTube to see.

[beatrix]

Unfortunately a fair number are daft enough to believe the trash

Thats what happens when you treat the fanbase with contempt as they have done since buying the club.

Maybe if they were more open with the fans and had press conferences etc, to face the music in the public eye, to let us know

how they intend to get us out of this mess, people would stop speculating. Talking down to fans does not help either.

[PLJPB]

Unfortunately a fair number are daft enough to believe the trash

Unfortunately a fair number are daft enough to believe the Rao's and Kean.

[ABBEY]

It was all considered at the time, Abbey. There's no harm in considering things. Sometimes they work out, sometimes they don't.

What have the venkys done mum to make us a better run and better team? They couldn't afford beckhams boots let alone his wages! Alls they've done is put their trash in the media and promoted the fat gangster and team venky!

And as for keans 1% and the venkys 2 % now that's pure trash!

[roversmum]

the problem is that in the absence of any solid info and in view of the owners' apparent intransigence with regard to the position of Steve Kean, people really will believe anything, because the majority of the decisions the Raaos have made defy logic. Who doesn't sack a manager who is doing so badly that the fans can see no way back? Who doesn't sack a manager who has lied to police apparently and therefore has proven that he is not trustworthy? Who doesn't sack a manager who appears clueless tactically and has a defence that cannot keep a clean sheet? I could go on. There has to be a reaon why Kean is still in a job. The owners are suposed to be business people and from where we are, keeping him seems to be a rotten business decision too. I know you met him and them and seem to have liked them all, but liking someone isn't a reason for keeping them in a job, or supporting them when they make waht appear to be daft decisions. I don't personally believe any of the theories listed, but I simply don't know what to believe and nobody seems to be able to explain in the slightest why our owners continue to employ Steve Kean in any capacity at all.

Your points are valid, gumboots, and I have to admit I agree with them. I adamantly believe that the family have no wish to see the club fail (i.e. be relegated) and yet given the current situation I do not see how it can survive in the premiership without strong and immediate action.

[Myles Anderson]

i back Venkys to the hilt, when they speak i listen.

I cannot wait for all the nay-sayers to change their tune.

I have it on very good authority that "results will automatically change"

What we are dealing with here are people on a much higher plane of existance than ourselves.

One can only imagine the endless wisdom this family possess.

Back Venkys and we will come out of this minor blip together.

Have they ever let us down before?....

[broadsword]

Premier League clubs will never just up and move abroad, there are a million reasons why it's not feasible. There is a huge difference between the proposed "39th game" and a club moving to a different continent.

The conspiracy theories are ridiculous. These are just three that I have read in the last 24 hours:

• Jerome Anderson paid to buy Rovers and Venky's are just a front to hide this fact
  
• Venky's intend to move the club to India
  
• Steve Kean remains in the job because he is smuggling gold for Venky's on his monthly trips
  

There are probably loads more doing the rounds.

There's a really nutty one doing the rounds about foreign owners wanting to abolish relegation. Some people really will believe anything.

The majority of revenue for Rovers doesn't come from gate receipts, it comes from TV money. A club will have its local (attending) fans, and its global fans. Global fans are worth much more.

From the point of view of the local fan, moving the club to a better, more lucratuve, catchment area is repellant.

From the point of view of the owners who are foreign and have no affiliations to the club (other to bask in its reflected glory), it makes total sense. All they care about is that their team wins, earns money, gives them good PR.

It may not happen immediately, but I can see the possibility in the future. It's a logical extension of no relegation from the top division, european super-leagues etc. Club owners are increasingly foreign with no local ties, they don't care about what's best for English football, their perspective is limited to what's best for them.

The English football model isn't entirely to their liking, hence the suggestion of banning relegation.

[ABBEY]

Your points are valid, gumboots, and I have to admit I agree with them. I adamantly believe that the family have no wish to see the club fail (i.e. be relegated) and yet given the current situation I do not see how it can survive in the premiership without strong and immediate action.

Who created the current situation ? The bloody venkys !!!!!

[broadsword]

Yes, but they do mean well. And they won't let the club go down.

And onion Balaji is a very nice man with bodyguards and 75 cars, and they give a lot to charity. And they feed india's homeless every morning.

Can't run a football club for toffee though.

[Majiball]

[jannerman]

They've been very badly advised IMO

Question is, are they still getting bad advice or are they starting to get more of a sense what a minefield they have stepped into.

Still can't make my mind up if I support them, am thinking that the next week or two will shape that

[Roost]

I would support them much more if they didn't keep coming out with cringworthy statements, which only go to demonstrate their naivety.

Too many things wrong, on and off the pitch at the minute with many to blame.

[roverandout]

my last lingering hope for the venkys is rapidly extinguishing, wont be long until there is not light at at the end of the tunnel at all.

[Craigman]

I emailed the Premier League and got this response back.

Response (Rachel Pallant) - 19/10/2011 01.03 PM

Dear Craig,

Clubs are required to prove that they are sustainable by submitting future financial information showing they can meet their liabilities ahead. There has been no rule breach at Blackburn Rovers, and unless proof is provided that there has been we would not conduct an investigation.

I appreciate that as a loyal supporter you are frustrated at the way your club is being run. We encourage dialogue between fans and clubs, but we cannot act outside of the rules. We suggest you contact the club directly to raise and discuss your concerns with them.

Kind regards,

Supporter Services

[gumboots]

I emailed the Premier League and got this response back.

Response (Rachel Pallant) - 19/10/2011 01.03 PM

Dear Craig,

Clubs are required to prove that they are sustainable by submitting future financial information showing they can meet their liabilities ahead. There has been no rule breach at Blackburn Rovers, and unless proof is provided that there has been we would not conduct an investigation.

I appreciate that as a loyal supporter you are frustrated at the way your club is being run. We encourage dialogue between fans and clubs, but we cannot act outside of the rules. We suggest you contact the club directly to raise and discuss your concerns with them.

Kind regards,

Supporter Services

No point if they ignore us is there?

[47er]

Unfortunately a fair number are daft enough to believe the trash

And a fair number seem to believe everything Venkys tell them.

Since we are hurtling towards the abyss, and have been ever since Kean took over, do you have an explanation for Kean's continuing employment?

Your points are valid, gumboots, and I have to admit I agree with them. I adamantly believe that the family have no wish to see the club fail (i.e. be relegated) and yet given the current situation I do not see how it can survive in the premiership without strong and immediate action.

"without strong and immediate action"------is that code for "sack Kean now"? We've become used to weasel words from Kean but don't tell me you've become infected?

Sack him or not?

[roversmum]

I've had enough now. Everyone wants to hear the views of others as long as they are singing from the same hymn sheet. I don't agree that the owners deserve all the negative stuff that has been written about them. I'm accused of thinking myself superior because I believe they are good people and ultimately want the best for Rovers - this after having met them and speaking to them. I still believe that.

For what it's worth, I love this club and my fellow fans, and respect their views. I would like the same respect.

I won't be around for a while. The bile, hatred, bullying and some of the stuff that is being said is making me feel ill.

COYB

[roverandout]

roversmum, the venkys MIGHT want whats best but kean doesnt and so his actions cant be condoned.

[47er]

I've had enough now. Everyone wants to hear the views of others as long as they are singing from the same hymn sheet. I don't agree that the owners deserve all the negative stuff that has been written about them. I'm accused of thinking myself superior because I believe they are good people and ultimately want the best for Rovers - this after having met them and speaking to them. I still believe that.

For what it's worth, I love this club and my fellow fans, and respect their views. I would like the same respect.

I won't be around for a while. The bile, hatred, bullying and some of the stuff that is being said is making me feel ill.

COYB

Well--you've closed off immediately after my post which makes me feel a little responsible. So to set the record straight, I haven't bullied you at all, ever.The owners do deserve all this negative stuff being written about them because they are destroying the club we all love.

If you deliberately avoid making your feelings clear by using a term like "strong and immediate action" its fair comment to ask you does that mean you support Kean's sacking? That's a position you've always avoiding committing to---from memory.

Sad to see you go. There will be many casualties from all this if things continue as they are----- yet we could start to rebuild today-------the owners can sack the man responsible for on-field performances.

We might then start to believe that Venkys are good people who only want the best for our club.

[Majiball]

I've had enough now. Everyone wants to hear the views of others as long as they are singing from the same hymn sheet. I don't agree that the owners deserve all the negative stuff that has been written about them. I'm accused of thinking myself superior because I believe they are good people and ultimately want the best for Rovers - this after having met them and speaking to them. I still believe that.

For what it's worth, I love this club and my fellow fans, and respect their views. I would like the same respect.

I won't be around for a while. The bile, hatred, bullying and some of the stuff that is being said is making me feel ill.

COYB

I never intended my post to be taken in that manner, so I apologise. I was merely curious.

[ABBEY]

I only responded to the trash remark?

Before you go mum , how have the venkys made us better? Not a bully question , a straight forward question? I can't for the life of me see how?

[Rovers_786]

The FA cant make the club do anything but the owners have totally stressed the placed and the fans,we cant be treated like this.

[AggyBlue]

I won't be around for a while. The bile, hatred, bullying and some of the stuff that is being said is making me feel ill.

I won't be around Ewood for a while.

I'm not prepared to back the Venky's in destroying the club.

[Tris]

And a fair number seem to believe everything Venkys tell them.

Since we are hurtling towards the abyss ...

Abyss?? Not two years ago you termed it "oblivion". And "The owners do deserve all this negative stuff being written about them because they are destroying the club we all love"?? Can you even remember your own comments during the previous ownership?!

Do you know what 47er ... for the few days that 9 of us were in India, attracting dogs abuse for being there - accused of being a disgrace to the support, Venkys sycophants, collaborators, the enemy within, bought out by the Venkys, on a feebie, etc - one thing that kept me positive was recalling the happy discussions you and I used to have on this MB, when I argued tirelessly that the JW Trust were the best possible owners for BRFC at this time, to keep us in this league and with the management structure in place at Ewood Park.

Such memories told me I was right to take a message out there, and helped me shrug off the accusations listed above, so I've got to thank you for that.

So I've put together a little collection of your responses to those pro-JW Trust ownership arguments you used to fire back at myself, Philipl, Iamarover, Paul and others, so you can reminisce as well. Please enjoy ...

Fife---can't see your logic. Its not a matter of choice,the Walker family want to sell ... what's the point of arguing that we should stick with them? ... On another point, why do people say "we're better off staying where we are, the trustees are doing a good job"? ... Well I want to see the end of the Walker family years ... Time to look forward rather than back ... But how is what the Walker trust has delivered in the last ten years relevant to our future? ... We carry on with inadequate funding under owners who want rid? In truth you have no solution and we look likely to have no new striker and no new central mid-fielder and this will go on season after season till we go down ... If no-one suitable wants the club at the asking price and the Walker Trust continues to fail to finance it some-one please tell me where we go from here apart from oblivion ... all you do is analyse the problems associated with ownership of Premier League clubs. We all know them anyway but what you can't seem to get your head around is that Rovers have an ownership problem now! The Walker Trust no longer wishes to own the club and is putting in less and less funding so that our ability to compete in this League is severely at risk. Are we to reject all offers? Certain relegation then beckons ... Can't you see that this offer is as good as it is ever likely to get? What you seem to want is a takeover without any possible portion of risk whatsoever. Life isn't like that ... we have no option but to suck it and see. You have no alternative because there is no alternative. All this has been said over and over again but still you can't/won't get it ... I'll be happy if the Trust finds Syed to be a suitable owner while you will be heart-broken ... Do you expect Rovers fans to fly to to Jersey and throw things at them? ... eg is there even one tiny scrap of evidence that anyone intends to replace JW with "Agent Anderson"? No there isn't its just more of the same tripe. get a grip! ... "We are not a selling club anymore" Mrs Desai. Does that cheer you up? Would that have still been the case if The Walker Trust owned us? ... We were doomed under the Trust. That's my opinion. What's fact is---it doesn't matter ... I was desperate for the right people to buy the club because the Walker Trust was running it into the ground and were determined to sell So I welcomed Venkys with open arms ... I'm not one of those regretting the passing of the Walkers. There was no future there ... I welcomed the take-over, would not wish to return to the Walker Trust which felt like a living death to me ...

Goes without saying, I would jump back to the previous ownership in a heartbeat. But we are where we are now, so let's continue to get the most important message through and this time next week things could look a whole lot better.