[Archived] Paul Clement

[Stuart]

  On 08/01/2012 at 13:08, Glenn (not Glen) said:

In Podcast #20 (available this evening), Kam gives a name of somebody he believes is applying for it.

Would be popular with the fans if nothing else.

Applying for it...

Popular with fans...

He won't get it!

[cmb211087]

Tugay.... Yeah I saw what you put on twitter!

[Stuart]

Tugay working for Kean?

How about Tugay managing the team and Kean looking after a garden somewhere.

[LeChuck]

Tugay doesn't have anywhere near the experience required to help our situation.

As much as I love the guy I 100% don't want him to get the job. He's not ready for it and has name would get tainted by association.

[deryck guyler's spoon]

Toogs is amongst my all time favourite Rovers and is justifiably loved by the fans. It would be great to see him back at Ewood one day but not under the current regime.

I dont want him anywhere near the club at the moment.

[Dunnfc]

Tugay to assistant us get relgated tugay snitches kean up and ends up manager Sounds Ideal to me what comes around goes around Keano! Your time is limited...

[rovers11]

Would be a good move. Give the place a lift. Think he's also done coaching in Turkey so not a complete novice

[LeChuck]

  On 08/01/2012 at 13:54, rovers11 said:

Would be a good move. Give the place a lift. Think he's also done coaching in Turkey so not a complete novice

I doubt Tugay has the coaching skills required to help plug the leaky defence.

Any lift in morale would only be VERY temporary if results didn't improve. If you want an example, see Shearer's stint as Newcastle manager.

It would be a terrible move, I hope it doesn't happen. We need an experienced assistant with proven tactical knowledge.

[rovers11]

  On 08/01/2012 at 14:03, LeChuck said:

I doubt Tugay has the coaching skills required to help plug the leaky defence.

Any lift in morale would only be VERY temporary if results didn't improve. If you want an example, see Shearer's stint as Newcastle manager.

It would be a terrible move, I hope it doesn't happen. We need an experienced assistant with proven tactical knowledge.

We need a change of tactics to plug our leaky defence. That comes down to the manager. Any new assistant will only be implementing the way kean wants to play. Chelsea had a good defensive record when clement was there but didnt do much for us.

[John]

Thought there was a very SLIGHT improvement when Clement joined - hope we don't regress further if that is at all possible.

[LeChuck]

  On 08/01/2012 at 14:08, rovers11 said:

Any new assistant will only be implementing the way kean wants to play. Chelsea had a good defensive record when clement was there but didnt do much for us.

Clement was an assistant coach at Chelsea, that's lower down the ladder than the role Brunskill holds for us.

Assistant managers should be heavily involved in the tactical side of things, not just merely following orders like coaches.

If you believe Tugay would just be told what to do by Kean then why would you want him here? He wouldn't be able to make a slightest bit of difference to our plight.

You can't have it both ways!

[chaddyrovers]

could it be Colin Hendry or Mike Newell??? most likely Derek Faz

[Waggy76]

  On 08/01/2012 at 14:31, chaddyrovers said:

could it be Colin Hendry or Mike Newell??? most likely Derek Faz

Personally , I can see a lot of conflict with Kean in all the above appointments ,,But a job is a job ..

Not sure a fans favourite would be employed ..But agree if they were Faz would be favourite , he doesn't seem to want to be a manager .

[Stuart]

  On 08/01/2012 at 14:31, chaddyrovers said:

could it be Colin Hendry or Mike Newell??? most likely Derek Faz

Or....

[DE.]

I don't want Tugay to come anywhere near Venky's FC.

[Mercer]

Kean is a political animal and will not go for someone who is very popular with the supporters as he would see a situation where there might be a clamour to replace him with say Tugay.

From speculation I've heard, I'd put my money on Faz..

[rovers11]

  On 08/01/2012 at 14:27, LeChuck said:

Clement was an assistant coach at Chelsea, that's lower down the ladder than the role Brunskill holds for us.

Assistant managers should be heavily involved in the tactical side of things, not just merely following orders like coaches.

If you believe Tugay would just be told what to do by Kean then why would you want him here? He wouldn't be able to make a slightest bit of difference to our plight.

You can't have it both ways!

Under normal circumstances I would agree with you. Assistant managers are there to help the manager tactically and with identifying transfer targets. However, I don't think whoever comes in will make any difference or have any power. I'm not even sure kean has much power either, he is a puppet. I believe kean himself is under orders to play attacking, exciting football from the owners. And does anyone think kean wanted to sign most of the players he signed in the summer?! he doesnt even play half of them. That's the reason they got rid of big sam, they knew he wouldn't accept how to be told how to play and he certainly wouldnt have allowed the club to sign players who he didnt want.

I think it would be good to get somebody on board that the fans actually like and respect. But the owners are the real problem.

[booth]

  On 08/01/2012 at 15:06, rovers11 said:

I believe kean himself is under orders to play attacking, exciting football from the owners.

If this is the case then why haven't they sacked him?

We seem to be playing Sam Allardyce tactics but without the defensive coaching.

[rovers11]

  On 08/01/2012 at 19:22, booth said:

If this is the case then why haven't they sacked him?

We seem to be playing Sam Allardyce tactics but without the defensive coaching.

£££

[booth]

  On 08/01/2012 at 19:25, rovers11 said:

£££

So why sack Allardyce which cost them quite a lot of money, to replace him with a poorer substitute?

Or are you saying their original intention was to play exciting, attacking football under Kean because they were sold a white elephant.

Coincidentally since Kean took over, with him getting well fed from destroying our football club, he is literally starting to look like a white elephant.

[roverandout]

dont want a new assistant, dont want the manager, dont want the owners, dont want anything from these slugs, just want them to turn out the lights and lock the door on their way out.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

  On 08/01/2012 at 14:35, Waggy76 said:

Personally , I can see a lot of conflict with Kean in all the above appointments ,,But a job is a job ..

Not sure a fans favourite would be employed ..But agree if they were Faz would be favourite , he doesn't seem to want to be a manager .

Maybe he's finally become aware of his limitations ?

[T4E]

So far in the Barca game Pique has had a couple of chances/situations where it may have been "wise" to lump it in to the stands. He hasn't done it. The commentators even remarked on the second occasion how he likes to play out from the back and how playing it clear aimlessly is frowned upon at Barca, even if it costs a goal, using the Madrid goal and subsequent persistence with the tactic as evidence.

They don't "lump it in to the stands", they would rather concede.

Edit: And again just now, down in his own corner with a player on his back he tried to take the ball round him, then as a last resort tried to play it off the attacker to win a goal kick. In this country it would have been out for a corner no questions asked.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

  On 08/01/2012 at 21:01, T4E said:

So far in the Barca game Pique has had a couple of chances/situations where it may have been "wise" to lump it in to the stands. He hasn't done it. The commentators even remarked on the second occasion how he likes to play out from the back and how playing it clear aimlessly is frowned upon at Barca, even if it costs a goal, using the Madrid goal and subsequent persistence with the tactic as evidence.

They don't "lump it in to the stands", they would rather concede.

Edit: And again just now, down in his own corner with a player on his back he tried to take the ball round him, then as a last resort tried to play it off the attacker to win a goal kick. In this country it would have been out for a corner no questions asked.

Who are Barca playing tonight ?

[thenodrog]

  On 08/01/2012 at 21:01, T4E said:

So far in the Barca game Pique has had a couple of chances/situations where it may have been "wise" to lump it in to the stands. He hasn't done it. The commentators even remarked on the second occasion how he likes to play out from the back and how playing it clear aimlessly is frowned upon at Barca, even if it costs a goal, using the Madrid goal and subsequent persistence with the tactic as evidence.

They don't "lump it in to the stands", they would rather concede.

Edit: And again just now, down in his own corner with a player on his back he tried to take the ball round him, then as a last resort tried to play it off the attacker to win a goal kick. In this country it would have been out for a corner no questions asked.

You can keep your Flamenco footy TG4. The most exciting match that I have seen for some time was City v Man Utd yesterday. Terribly wrong sending off but the action and quality was breathtaking..... and defenders on both sides were lumping it clear time and time again.... in fact City's 2nd goal wouldn't have come about if Scholes had put his foot through the ball when he should have!

Fergy was not best suited at MU's 2nd half performance and I'd wager a boot would have been flying at Snr Pique's head if he had been playing for MU and had tried those stunts yesterday.

btw whats this about.........