[Archived] How to seperate wanting the manager to lose and wanting to team to win

[roverandout]

i would take a walloping against burnley if it meant kean getting the boot.

[ABBEY]

i would take a walloping against burnley if it meant kean getting the boot.

Pathetic

[John]

We need every point that we can get - plus we have been losing, and not winning, games for ages under Kean and he has still stayed at the club.

[darwenblueswearehere]

i would take a walloping against burnley if it meant kean getting the boot.

You're kidding, surely?

[Mattyblue]

i would take a walloping against burnley if it meant kean getting the boot.

give over!

[martonrover]

If the Walter Smith rumours come to fruition it will be clear once and for all that we're stuck with Kean so losing to Spurs would have no silver lining at all. If Smith,( or any other D.OF.), isn't coming I believe that losing on Sunday would be the tipping point.

[Brfcrule1]

This is a major dilemna but for me even at QPR I was caught between the devil and the deep blue sea. I hate losing but for the long term future of the club it is the only option. I also blame Venkys they can obviously see because of their inability to fire Kean it is causing major arguments/problems/fights amongst the fanbase who they claim are their family!. I only hope Venkatesh sticks to his word about getting results by hook or crook but as they say talk is cheap actions need to be taken.

[roverandout]

ok fair enough, i would take a 1-0 defeat against burnley then.

[ABBEY]

ok fair enough, i would take a 1-0 defeat against burnley then.

Bollux

[LeChuck]

I also blame Venkys

That's another point I was meant to make.

Under the past regime we never had the need to feel like this because we trusted Williams to make the right decisions. He wasn't afraid to accept he made a mistake hiring Ince and rectified with enough time to spare.

It feels like Venky's will find any excuse not to fire Kean, and will happily risk the club being relegated to keep him as manager. The only possible thing that will sway them is a run of bad results. Seemingly 1 win in 8 games isn't bad enough, so maybe it needs a run of defeats.

[ABBEY]

Would you rather have a run of wins or a run of defeats?

[bobsterbrfc]

I want the best for Blackburn Rovers. The best for Blackburn Rovers does not involve Steve Kean. Steve Kean is less likely to be involved if we lose. It's not a hard equation.

[roverandout]

run of wins when kean has gone, after that i am FULLY behind rovers and i am not the only one with this perspective away from this messageboard.

[Amo]

Would you rather have a run of wins or a run of defeats?

But we won't have a run of wins under Kean. That's the point.

The occasional win will only buy him more time and less games for a real manager to save our ass.

[ABBEY]

Topman are you protesting on sunday? I am , but it won't stop me wanting rovers to win.

Topman are you protesting on sunday? I am , but it won't stop me wanting rovers to win.

[Bluefudge]

Just made my 1% tshirt.

Iron on transfer, printed off the pc.

Might run a few more off to hand out!!

[roverandout]

but abbey surely if rovers win then the protest will just be dismissed as it was against arsenal.

[Miker]

I feel apathy whenever I watch games now. I don't know if I want to win or lose anymore. All I know is I don't want to draw!!!

[greco]

when a thread like this enters a messageboard, you know apathy and disillusion is in the vicinity.

It has already been mentioned, that no one wants us to lose, but some are willing to lose a battle, for strategic purposes, if it means we win the war.

[ABBEY]

but abbey surely if rovers win then the protest will just be dismissed as it was against arsenal.

So you want us to lose? How can you support a team and want it to lose???????

And as for wanting to lose against burnley then your either a dingle troll or an embarrassment of a rovers fan!!!!!

We need points Ffs , I hear what people are saying but anyone who wants us to lose is not a fan.

I never felt more like singing the blues

When rovers win and burnley lose

Rovers til I die

Not kean not venkys but ROVERS

Yes we all want kean out but I want rovers to win more!

when a thread like this enters a messageboard, you know apathy and disillusion is in the vicinity.

It has already been mentioned, that no one wants us to lose, but some are willing to lose a battle, for strategic purposes, if it means we win the war.

Bull .. If it was war we could legally put a bullet between the venky eyes!...read again theres people on here who have said they want us to lose!

[Andy]

I don't think, ahead of any match 'I want us to lose', but when we do inevitably lose, I can't say it bothers me.

In fact, I agree with whoever said above that, even at 0-4 against City, I was happy for them to get a few more to really twist the knife into the embarrassment of a manager we currently have.

That said, I've never had this super-duper mega love for Rovers - it's just my local team that I'm proud to support, so I'm sure that somehow makes me less of a fan. Or something.

[roverandout]

abbey my burnley comment was more tongue-in-cheek, i dont want rovers to lose in an ideal world, i always want us to win but cant bring myself to cheer knowing that weasel will just fob off the anti-kean brigade if we do, as against arsenal, it just makes my skin crawl. i dont hate the players, i have no feelings towards the raos one way or the other to be honest and i love the club but it hurts me more seeing kean trying to give the v's to the supporters whenever rovers get a 'positive' result, i have a heavy heart when i say this but rovers losing means kean losing and that makes me happy.

[Penster]

i would take a walloping against burnley if it meant kean getting the boot.

No not ever-not in any case or any sceanrio.We cant throw 33 years of superiority away-not even to get rid of Clotted Kean. If we win on Sunday I'll be happy-but if we loose I'll take comfort from it hastening the demise of that carpet bagging chancer.

[47er]

The tragedy is that we fans ever had to face this dilemma. My own position is that I can want us to lose in theory for the greater good but I can't wake up on Saturday morning and go through with it.

I can't recall a manger being so unpopular yet staying so long-----that's what's causing the dilemma------we've never had to face such stubbornness and stupidity from our owners before.

If we lose on Sunday and if the demo is a huge one and if the crowd is unmistakably in revolt, I couldn't say with any certainty that Kean would be sacked.

What then? An empty stadium?

I honestly think we are in danger of losing a generation of supporters if this goes on much longer. It happened in 1960 and it took us years to recover.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

Defeats are the most likely reason kean will be removed.

On Sunday will protest - then cheer on Rovers as always - normally I'd be gutted for days if we lost, now I just think "oh well, that's Kean one step nearer the exit door"