[Archived] Walter Smith

[rovers_rob]

Why won't Venky's sack Kean?

Lets take a quick look:

Kean is on the books of an agency headed by a Jerome Anderson. This is the same Jerome Anderson who holds massive influence in Asian TV rights deals through his company, particularly in Asia. The Walker Trust are desperate to flog the club asap so Anderson uses his contacts in the Indian sporting arena to find potential buyers, hence why all those linked to the takeover last year were from India - Saurin Shah, Ahsan Ali Syed & Venky's.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that Kean could quite plausibly have taken an active role with his pal Jerome Anderson in finding somebody to buy the club and that part of the 'arrangement' would be that Kean was to be appointed manager at the earliest opportunity. Especially when Venky's retained Anderson's services as an 'advisor' in the months following the takeover.

Don't tell me that Jerome Anderson is no longer involved with the club because he was in India last week meeting Venky's and his son is still inexplicably taking up a precious place in our 25 man squad.

Even if Venky's were to sack Kean today I would have no faith whatsoever in their ability to bring in a suitable replacement. They have no idea what they are doing, like I would have no idea how to run one of their chicken factories. Their stubborn refusal to listen to those who know best or appoint somebody with a footballing brain will see this club relegated.

I don't care about how nice a guy Balaji is or how many books he has read about the club. I don't care about what he might or might not have told the 'Pune 9'. Lets remember these people backtracked on their statements within 3 weeks of the takeover by sacking Allardyce so I don't think its beyond them to feed some members of the Fans Forum a load of rubbish.

More fool you if you believe a word they say with their track record of lying to supporters.

IF this is true it answers the question about how Kean got the job but it doesn't explain why he can't\won't be sacked because if we get relegated everyone loses, the fans, players, Venkys and even Jerome Anderson.

If Jerome Anderson wants to make money from tv rights, agents fees etc.. he isn't going to make that money in the championship is he ?

[bennyboyt11]

One might suspect that Anderson has already made a fair whack of his money, anything after that is a bonus.

[gumboots]

IF this is true it answers the question about how Kean got the job but it doesn't explain why he can't\won't be sacked because if we get relegated everyone loses, the fans, players, Venkys and even Jerome Anderson.

If Jerome Anderson wants to make money from tv rights, agents fees etc.. he isn't going to make that money in the championship is he ?

there would seem to be to be very little that could go wrong if Kean were sacked that isn't going to go wrong if he stays. If they kick us out of the premier league because of some dodgy dealings he knows about and spills the beans about, well, it's only jumping the gun by a few months anyway because we're going out of the PL if he stays. If they fine us massive amounts for something we've done wrong well we're going to lose massive amounts in tv rights etc anyway. If it's something more personal unless he has written or phototgraphic evidence it's going to be hard to prove and to be honest you're generally better to own up yourself and call the bluff of anyone who is attempting to blackmail you. If the stuff that is being hinted at is what I was PM'd about last season, then yes, it's nasty but in the end so is relegation, the loss of income to loads of samll businesses who depend on the club doing well, the loss of jobs for some current employees and the financial issues around relegation. Kean needs to go asap and we pick up the pieces afterwards. Or we get in and admit what we've done wrong before he gets the chance and face the consequences. Whatever the reason he has not yet been sacked, he MUST be at the earliest opportunity - it only takes seconds.

[JAL]

IF this is true it answers the question about how Kean got the job but it doesn't explain why he can't\won't be sacked because if we get relegated everyone loses, the fans, players, Venkys and even Jerome Anderson.

If Jerome Anderson wants to make money from tv rights, agents fees etc.. he isn't going to make that money in the championship is he ?

Have you not figured out rob that he could make more money from Rovers if they were relegated through mass player exodus than just stay in the premier league.

[Rovers_786]

The latest is he been offered the job and the media are so slow getting their facts rights and the venkys are playing clever at the moment.

[Sverre]

The latest is he been offered the job and the media are so slow getting their facts rights and the venkys are playing clever at the moment.

the job as DOF? or manager?

[Stuart]

Archie Knox Mk II?

[Rovers_786]

the job as DOF? or manager?

DOF :angry2:

[jehrover]

IF this is true it answers the question about how Kean got the job but it doesn't explain why he can't\won't be sacked because if we get relegated everyone loses, the fans, players, Venkys and even Jerome Anderson.

If Jerome Anderson wants to make money from tv rights, agents fees etc.. he isn't going to make that money in the championship is he ?

In terms of Jerome Anderson I don't think he is going to lose any sleep whatsoever if Rovers go down. If reports are to be believed, and he's even admitted as much, his agency have already made millions in the last 12 months alone. He virtually ran the January transfer window, will have got a substantial fee for advising in the takeover process and little added extras like a fee for his 'client' Kean and his son's arrival will both be considerable themselves. If reports are to be believed he pocketed more than £1.5 million for the Rochina deal alone, and I believe he admitted this on national radio, even trying to justify it.

But the point is that if Kean had taken an active role in the takeover through Anderson, then at very least he could have engineered a 'gentleman's agreement' that he would be manager in the new regime. If Venky's see him as part of the package, or indeed if he has been privy to sensitive information with regards to transfer dealings/the takeover, then you can see why they are so eager to keep him here. Especially if they take Anderson's advice so closely that Kean has control not just over the team but over the whole club.

On a final note I spent some of Monday night watching a Sky Sports Season Review of the 2006-07 Premier League season. I watched with a smile on my face as memories of us finishing in the top 10 under Hughes flashed across the screen, how we qualified for the Intertoto Cup for another year in Europe and that day out at Old Trafford in the Cup Semi-Final. Then I saw how our ex manager Sam Allardyce led Bolton to a fantastic 7th place finish. Inbetween there were brief highlights of Watford v Fulham, which finished 3-3. As Fulham scored their manager Chris Coleman went wild in celebration. Sat amongst a cluster of coaches on the Fulham bench was our very own 'brilliant manager'. In just 5 years he has gone from a nonentity on the Fulham bench to virtually running BRFC singlehandedly to a point where he is unsackable as a Premier League manager.

Amazing how far you can get in life through lies, deception and having an influential agent.

[PAFELL]

The latest is he been offered the job and the media are so slow getting their facts rights and the venkys are playing clever at the moment.

The words clever and venkys do belong in the same sentence. But the words stupid, idiotic and venkys does.

If kean has some dodgy info on the owners that the owners are afraid of. Venkys should spill the beans themselves. Keeping things quiet makes things worse for them, when the truth comes out.

[John]

Considering Kean is managed by Jerome Anderson and Anderson's heavy involvement in our takeover, and subsquent to it, you would think Stevie would have some interesting tales.

[chaddyrovers]

The latest is he been offered the job and the media are so slow getting their facts rights and the venkys are playing clever at the moment.

I ask Nicko about Rovers appointing a DoF and Walter Smith coming in to do that role?

His response was this ' Denied by three people who should know. How many directors of football do u want?'

[Mattyblue]

Great post jeh, but in reality he's gone from a non entity from our bench to running the show in just ONE year!

[imy9]

The biggest positive about Walter Smith is that he is a respected manager. He has won major trophies in Scotland he has also taken rangers to the Uefa cup final as well as moving Scotland up 70 places.

A lot better that Curbs and a few others that have been mentioned but coming as a DOF, is that WHEN Kean is sacked a system is in place to find a decent manager as well as have someone who can do the job temporarily?

[RibbleValleyRover]

The biggest positive about Walter Smith is that he is a respected manager. He has won major trophies in Scotland he has also taken rangers to the Uefa cup final as well as moving Scotland up 70 places.

A lot better that Curbs and a few others that have been mentioned but coming as a DOF, is that WHEN Kean is sacked a system is in place to find a decent manager as well as have someone who can do the job temporarily?

Curbs has a better record in this league and has experience of keeping sides up. Walter Smith didn't do a great job at Everton.

Curbs > Smith imo.

[martonrover]

The biggest positive about Walter Smith is that he is a respected manager. He has won major trophies in Scotland he has also taken rangers to the Uefa cup final as well as moving Scotland up 70 places.

A lot better that Curbs and a few others that have been mentioned but coming as a DOF, is that WHEN Kean is sacked a system is in place to find a decent manager as well as have someone who can do the job temporarily?

I think you know the answer to that. Only Kean would entertain being manager with a D.O.F above him.

[gumboots]

I think you know the answer to that. Only Kean would entertain being manager with a D.O.F above him.

Wasn't it a bit like that at Rangers though with McCoist learning how to manage with Smith over him? McCoist seems to have done a lot of the coaching type role and was officially Smith's assistant if I remember rightly. It could work, and whilst I agree that I'd like to see the back of Kean asap, if the owners aren't prepared to do this then perhaps this is the only possible scenario that just might work. Not that we should settle for it and the Kean out campaign should definitely continue, but just that we need to do something and if they are not prepared to sack him then we have to take what we can get until such time as they see sense

[martonrover]

Wasn't it a bit like that at Rangers though with McCoist learning how to manage with Smith over him? McCoist seems to have done a lot of the coaching type role and was officially Smith's assistant if I remember rightly. It could work, and whilst I agree that I'd like to see the back of Kean asap, if the owners aren't prepared to do this then perhaps this is the only possible scenario that just might work. Not that we should settle for it and the Kean out campaign should definitely continue, but just that we need to do something and if they are not prepared to sack him then we have to take what we can get until such time as they see sense

I take your point and respect your opinion but for me this would be just about the last straw. Kean needs sacking end of. I could just about handle Smith as manager but I wouldnt want a D.O.F. irrespective of the personnel involved. Doing it at Rangers means nothing as they are effectively in a 2 team league. In my opinion whilst McCoist might be doing ok in that league you can't compare it with trying to cut it in the EPL. If this happens it' s just a fudge and not the answer.

[John]

Would any director of football be in the dugout, changing room before the game etc, responsible for tactics and so on?

Or perhaps we could go down the joint mangers route, who was the last team to do that, Liverpool?

Who was that sporting director we brought in recently, what exactly does he do then, and as I have never heard of him before, who is he and how will he help us be successful?

Potentially, this all sounds amazing!

[Gav]

I think you know the answer to that. Only Kean would entertain being manager with a D.O.F above him.

Hasn't the walley with the brolley just had to endure 6 months with David Pleat in a similar role? needless to say it ended in tears for both men.

[Al]

Would any director of football be in the dugout, changing room before the game etc, responsible for tactics and so on?

Or perhaps we could go down the joint mangers route, who was the last team to do that, Liverpool?

Who was that sporting director we brought in recently, what exactly does he do then, and as I have never heard of him before, who is he and how will he help us be successful?

Potentially, this all sounds amazing!

We don't want joint managers we need Kean out of the club altogether. Nothing else will help us.

[gumboots]

I take your point and respect your opinion but for me this would be just about the last straw. Kean needs sacking end of. I could just about handle Smith as manager but I wouldnt want a D.O.F. irrespective of the personnel involved. Doing it at Rangers means nothing as they are effectively in a 2 team league. In my opinion whilst McCoist might be doing ok in that league you can't compare it with trying to cut it in the EPL. If this happens it' s just a fudge and not the answer.

I'm not for one minute suggesting it's a good idea or that i support it, just that if that's the way the owners see it going, well there are worse people you could bring in to do it. At least Smith has tried this sort of arrangement before , working in tandem with another less experienced guy, so if the owners won't see sense and sack Kean then this is possibly the least worst scenario. Personally, as I've said elsewhere, i'd sack Kean yesterday and worry tomorrrow what we are going to do about appointing his replacement.

[beerwins]

Thirteen pages of nonsense, we dont need a director of football.........We need a damn manager.

Steve Kean need to leave Blackburn Rovers, the only time I want to see his face is when he is in the opposing managers box trying his best to rally his lowly Burnley side from their 10-0 thrashing and swift exit of the cup.

We can hire the world and his uncle to help Kean or maybe they could just sack him, it's no wonder why all the conspiricy theories are coming out because this is just getting pathetic now to anyone who has eyes or ears.

[Majiball]

Considering Kean is managed by Jerome Anderson and Anderson's heavy involvement in our takeover, and subsquent to it, you would think Stevie would have some interesting tales.

I look at it a different way, I think those tales would be a little more than interesting.

Jerome doesn't come across as the most honest of men in his dealings. What did Chelsea end up paying United? It was all above board honest gov.

Mmmm was it?

So the question I want to ask is this, why are they so well in with our owners? them IE Jerome & Kean. We've seen them together many times both at home and abroad, it's almost as if their relationship goes deeper than that of mere business people?

So ask yourself why you stay in touch with the people you do? Benefits, friendship, similarities?

Most people stay in close contact with people for the last one for me, as the others are really just progressions from that point. People always build strong relationships with people they have things in common with in their believes, values and personalities, common traits if you like. So since we see such a cosy relationship between Kean, SEM & Venky's could one not assume that they have common traits with each other?

I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions.

[BuckyRover]

Curbs has a better record in this league and has experience of keeping sides up. Walter Smith didn't do a great job at Everton.

Curbs > Smith imo.

Two teams that Curbs managed ended up getting relegated. Everton never did.