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Well I think it's pretty obvious that Kean isn't going anywhere after today's press conference. He seemed in a very good mood, in fact.

Lord knows what is going on at Ewood. With every passing day of inactivity it's becoming sadder and sadder.

The Walker Trust were guilty of gross negligence when they sold us into the hands of these crooks.

So-called fans who can't be bothered standing up and fighting for our club turn my stomach. Imagine if 10,000 fans staged a sit-in instead of just the 1,000 die-hards. The apathetic attitude of people who stream out of Ewood every match-day to 'beat the traffic' is just pathetic. Sadly I don't think the passion demonstrated on this forum is an accurate representation of most people who go to Ewood.

If it were I'm quite certain Kean would have been forced out some time ago.

There is a real risk that unless Glen & Co can find a way to up the ante, the thing will just fizzle out and the media, Venky's and Kean will get bored and dismissive of what will be regarded as a minor irritant.

It will help if Cryer can be brought on board together with the LT - they did a terrific job last week for Agnew / Kean's engineered bullsh1t from the players. Kean pushed Cryer's nose out of joint a tad at the press conference today and, IMV, Cryer needs to come back really hard. For a start, get a feckin fans' poll going in the LT and use that as a basis for battering the clown.

The time has come for Rovers' supporters to decide just wtf they want and to get off their arses and support Glen & Co.

Whatever is done next just has to work or it might be too late, if it isn't already.

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I once said that Rovers' supporters weren't as passionate as the Dingles and metaphorically got lynched for it on this MB.

Unfortunately, I think that is the case - there would have been absolute uproar on Turf Moor in similar circumstances just as there would be at Newcastle, Leeds etc.

You obviously didn't go to Turf Moor on Rovers last visit there! Passionate my arse!

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bigalan, because some supporters are too thick to see the realities, typical blackburn yokals with their flatcaps and bread and dripping packed lunches, (im from there so dont have a go at me) some supporters are happy to go into ewood as zombified happyclappers, the ones who are doing the right thing, trying to make a difference are the ones making their voices heard although its falling on deaf ears at the moment, i will protest until the cows come home until that man is out of our club.

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There is a real risk that unless Glen & Co can find a way to up the ante, the thing will just fizzle out and the media, Venky's and Kean will get bored and dismissive of what will be regarded as a minor irritant.

It will help if Cryer can be brought on board together with the LT - they did a terrific job last week for Agnew / Kean's engineered bullsh1t from the players. Kean pushed Cryer's nose out of joint a tad at the press conference today and, IMV, Cryer needs to come back really hard. For a start, get a feckin fans' poll going in the LT and use that as a basis for battering the clown.

The time has come for Rovers' supporters to decide just wtf they want and to get off their arses and support Glen & Co.

Whatever is done next just has to work or it might be too late, if it isn't already.

I agree. Andy Cryer needs to have his finger on the pulse more and fully reflect the current strength of feeling. Peter White( R.I.P.) would've been brilliant in these circumstances.

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I was late joining the protest and got into a small debate with a fellow Rovers fan who was observing. His take was " look at the state of those yobs". My short reply was "yobs? We're in a mess and trying to save our club" simple reply back was "your just a set of yobs causing trouble". I left the situation sharply. Why do more fans not get it?

It defies logic that everyone can't see we aren't winning games and are in a mess, with the inept kean at the controls steering us into disaster.

But yet some are happy to sit back and hope that he manages to steer us clear of danger at the last minute and saying just give him time.

Its like driving your car and seeing a wall appear out in front of you - the chances are you going to hit it. But instead of doing something early you wait and see what happens. Until it is too late and no matter how hard you turn the wheel you have no chance of avoiding your own serious injury or death.

At the moment Steve kean is driving that car (metaphorically obviously) he and his bosses are waiting to see what happens before he turns the wheel. We are his passengers, most of us are screaming at his employers to get a newer, better, driver or at him to turn the wheel to avoid the impending disaster. The rest are sat back with their hands over their eyes, saying to themselves - "ooh this is fun his driving is getting better and lets give him a chance to turn the wheel."

Meanwhile our earstwhile driver is saying "don't worry lads I will get us out of it. On the positive side we haven't crashed yet, I did some extra driving last week and am confident that I can turn the wheel soon. Oh and last week I almost turned the wheel 30 times so can learn this week. Oh and I am going to follow the example of Lewis Hamilton and steer us round the wall any second. My bosses believe I will turn it"

Some ###### needs to turn that wheel asap.

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You obviously didn't go to Turf Moor on Rovers last visit there! Passionate my arse!

Been on Turf Moor many times and not just watching Rovers and no, I'm NOT a Dingle.

But I will tell you, yes the Burnley support can be subdued, as with most clubs including O.T. & Anfield, but they would not put up with the crap that we have this last 12 months.

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I agree. Andy Cryer needs to have his finger on the pulse more and fully reflect the current strength of feeling. Peter White( R.I.P.) would've been brilliant in these circumstances.

The LT may be remembering how radio Lancashire (or was it radio blackburn) was pushed into the shadows when we first got Uncle Jack on board and may not want to be treated the same way! They'd only have chamionship football to comment on!

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the ammount of smug sniggering supporters around me in the blackburn end, who joke about us protestors, 'oh there was only 100 people who turned up dave' ' oh aye billy, what a load of wallys' ' what good will it do us?' ' dont know billy, just make a fool of themselves'. the amount of times i wanna tell em to shut the eff up and held my tongue at the last minute, i wanna know what they are doing to save our club? when we are eventually relegated will these same people say they wish they had done something? probably!!!

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Blind loyalty is clouding perspective when a pragmatic approach should be adopted. Fans on the continent wouldn't have stood for this, they would have boycotted on mass. It is this blind loyalty that keeps kean in a job, I can guarantee that should ewood park of stood empty tomorrow then Steve kean would not be the manager by Thursday morning. The problem is that too many fans find it too much of a wrench to not go. The fans shouldn't have to think that way but in times of hardship you must take it upon yourself to make hard decisions and it seems as a collective of fans we don't have the will to make them.

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But I will tell you, yes the Burnley support can be subdued, as with most clubs including O.T. & Anfield, but they would not put up with the crap that we have this last 12 months.

You're quite right. I left the protest at half five on Sunday and bumped into an old school mate and life long Rover. We both felt better for doing our bit but couldn't believe how few Rovers fans (in terms of overall home support) bothered to attend. Not only that but how peaceful it was. I mentioned if this had been West Brom or Wolves (to mention only two) it would have been absolute bedlam.

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The LT may be remembering how radio Lancashire (or was it radio blackburn) was pushed into the shadows when we first got Uncle Jack on board and may not want to be treated the same way! They'd only have chamionship football to comment on!

I appreciate he has to tread a fine line and maintain a working relationship with the Club but I just feel Andy could get a little more to the heart of what is unfolding.

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You're quite right. I left the protest at half five on Sunday and bumped into an old school mate and life long Rover. We both felt better for doing our bit but couldn't believe how few Rovers fans (in terms of overall home support) bothered to attend. Not only that but how peaceful it was. I mentioned if this had been West Brom or Wolves (to mention only two) it would have been absolute bedlam.

I think the numbers protesting (post match) possibly reflected what was a good performance by the team - it isn't to often, when we get beat, that there is still a round of applause at the final whistle.

If it was peaceful - that is of great credit to the supporters - and not the other way around.

There is also a big risk that fans just don't feel they have a say any longer - and that our owners only pay lip service to the feelings of the fans. So apathy takes over. Venky's need to be very careful with this one - as soon as apathy starts to kick in - the passion goes, as do the season ticket numbers and atmosphere at the ground. They are playing a very dangerous game of brinkmanship at the moment.

Mrs D needs to come across personally and meet up with the leaders of the fans protests face to face. I would also suggest that Kean attend that meeting and explain why he should remain as manager. I think the likes of Glenn could quickly unravel the Kean spin - and hopefully Mrs D would see how bad things are.

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I actually think over the last couple of weeks Andy's got off the fence and started to take a notedly Anti-Kean stance.

Maybe, but I havent seen anyone go back at Kean when he's spouting his drivel, regarding his lies that he did not say that he doesnt care what the fans say, that he did start the champions league talk, that he has only won 4 league games this year, that he continually talks up poor performances (the Spurs game is our standard?!, we put the ball in their box 50 times in the game etc..) - there is good evidence for all these claims yet no-one is asking the awkwards questions that the fans deserve an answer on.

IMO the club need the LET as much as vice-versa.

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Do the guys (and girls) who went to Pune feel let down?

I personally will especially if he is offered a new contract, I wont regret going as we put the issues directly to the owner and it was certainly implied that these had been heard, if they do the complete opposite of what the fans are calling for then my stance on them will change.

I haven't yet joined any protests as I felt the owners knew exactly how we felt and didn't think it would make a difference, if the contract talk materialises then it's time to jump in just to vent if nothing else.

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Just one piece of info tonight, I hear that a member of the PL executive has stated in private that if Kean is given a new contract as manager, he will be calling for an in depth investigation into the affairs at Rovers.

Dont shoot trhe messenger, thats what I have heard.

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Been on Turf Moor many times and not just watching Rovers and no, I'm NOT a Dingle.

But I will tell you, yes the Burnley support can be subdued, as with most clubs including O.T. & Anfield, but they would not put up with the crap that we have this last 12 months.

The thing is though, the Dingles would go about this in the wrong way. They would probably have smashed up their own shops by now, but thuggery isn't going to get us anywhere. Maybe a lot of our crowd aren't as well informed as we are? If you didn't use the internet, it probably wouldn't seem half as bad as it is? If Kean is given a new contract, I think we'll see a dramatic increase in protestors.

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Wait for a televised game, get in touch with KFC and ask for 20,000 leaflets with KFC and a piccy of Col Saunders on, Kean and Venkys out on the reverse, Show them throughout the game, maximum publicity for KFC and the same for Kean out!!

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The thing is though, the Dingles would go about this in the wrong way. They would probably have smashed up their own shops by now, but thuggery isn't going to get us anywhere. Maybe a lot of our crowd aren't as well informed as we are? If you didn't use the internet, it probably wouldn't seem half as bad as it is? If Kean is given a new contract, I think we'll see a dramatic increase in protestors.

Agree, thuggery is not the answer.

However, I don't think that, generally, Rovers' supporters have been aggressive enough in getting across the message. It calls for both numbers, forceful vociferousness and high visibility.

I sit in the JW, done my stints 'behind the ends', and even a bomb explosion wouldn't move 95% who sit there !

I've often said, a club's support gets what it deserves in the end and if we continue to tolerate the shenanigans of the last 12 months, IMO, we've little hope.

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Agree, thuggery is not the answer.

However, I don't think that, generally, Rovers' supporters have been aggressive enough in getting across the message. It calls for both numbers, forceful vociferousness and high visibility.

I sit in the JW, dolne my stints 'behind the ends', and even a bomb explosion wouldn't move 95% who sit there !

I've often said, a club's support gets what it deserves in the end and if we continue to tolerate the shenanigans of the last 12 months, IMO, we've little hope.

Maybe we could get some of the JW Stand faithful to burn their tartan blankets in protest? I actually got told off once in there for trying to start a song, "sssshhh, we're trying to watch the match!" hehe

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I've run into a few Rovers fans over the past few weeks that just regurgitate the stuff that Kean has said the previous days. I don't hold it against these fans as their only access to Rovers news is often just SSN or newspapers. It only takes a few minutes to convince them otherwise why Kean is an utter pillock.

I think it would be handy if someone could write up the stuff that has made us all so anti-Kean and fit it on a leaflet for distribution before the Chelsea game. His win ratio and record in comparison with previous managers, decline of the team, his attitude to fans, his lying under oath and conviction for drink driving, his relationship with Jerome Anderson and Kentaro etc

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