[Archived] BRFC vs. Chelsea Protest Details

[readsi3k]

I seriously doubt 4000 people were in the ground after the Spurs game, regardless of what the Police said. I wasn't there, but have seen the videos and it looks like a few hundred. 4000 people would be approx 80% of the whole BBE lower full.

I also think it's fairly obvious why so many fans have an 'anti-protest' attitude.

[Pedro]

I seriously doubt 4000 people were in the ground after the Spurs game, regardless of what the Police said. I wasn't there, but have seen the videos and it looks like a few hundred. 4000 people would be approx 80% of the whole BBE lower full.

I also think it's fairly obvious why so many fans have an 'anti-protest' attitude.

No, nay and never were there 4000 people there after the Spurs game.

[roversmum]

I find some of your arguments to be absurd and following your trip to Pune when it seems, IMO, that Venky's managed to brainwash you, I find your thoughts even more absurd. You very clearly sit in the minority of 1% in your love for these, IMO, shysters.

Do you know them, Mercerman? Have you met them?

Our owners are more than able to provide everything that a Rovers Fan could desire. But whilst they are having to worry about protests and the like they can't get on with getting the club sorted out. They are in it for the long run and they are not about failure. There have been difficulties, and people being trusted in good faith who did not have the best interests for the club, we all know about these, but somehow certain fans have turned themselves into paragons who have never made mistakes or said something they later regretted. The owners are not asset strippers - they have no need to be.

Please don't come up with a load of bunkum that you or your best mate's third cousin's sister heard from the chippie owner's granny's dog because a fair bit of it is simply not true. People are spending their time arguing and writing blogs about things that are just rumours when they could be doing something so much more productive to actively help the club to move forward.

The best thing fans can do is to get on with setting up the Supporters' Trust or some other sort of Supporters' Association. All fans (including those overseas with technology available today) can then be represented by an elected body and have an official input into what is happening at the club. That is the way forward. Unfortunately whilst many talented individuals are happy to tinker about photoshopping daft pictures they can't be bothered with the obvious solution and the hard ground work that entails.

As I have said before, regarding the Manager, his fate is in his own hands. He has to gain the points required and he is well aware of that.

[mark1875]

As I have said before, regarding the Manager, his fate is in his own hands. He has to gain the points required and he is well aware of that.

and is he still in a job because 28 out of 93 is deemed enough? when will they wake up and realise no matter how good their intentions are they are failing.

on 26th April 2011 Venkatesh Rao said "do not judge us now, judge us when we have been here 12 months"

on the 19th November 2011, after our next match they would have been here 12 months to the day, they would have made a profit on transfers and taken us from the comfort of mid-table down to the bottom, heading towards bein cast adrift!

we were asked to judge after a year, what other way is there to judge them?

[Brad]

" he has to gain the points required and he is well aware of that"

Did you hear that from your best mates third cousins sister who heard it from the chippie owners granny's dog?

[RibbleValleyRover]

Do you know them, Mercerman? Have you met them?

Our owners are more than able to provide everything that a Rovers Fan could desire. But whilst they are having to worry about protests and the like they can't get on with getting the club sorted out. They are in it for the long run and they are not about failure. There have been difficulties, and people being trusted in good faith who did not have the best interests for the club, we all know about these, but somehow certain fans have turned themselves into paragons who have never made mistakes or said something they later regretted. The owners are not asset strippers - they have no need to be.

And yet they still plod on and fail to react to the crisis in front of them. There will be no 'in it for the long run' if they don't get their act together and quick.

Please don't come up with a load of bunkum that you or your best mate's third cousin's sister heard from the chippie owner's granny's dog because a fair bit of it is simply not true. People are spending their time arguing and writing blogs about things that are just rumours when they could be doing something so much more productive to actively help the club to move forward.

The no.1 problem is the manager, and there is nothing the fans can do in order for that issue to be resolved. The owners must know by now that he's not the right person to manage the club (that was obvious last season.) Instead they want to see us throw points away every week.

The best thing fans can do is to get on with setting up the Supporters' Trust or some other sort of Supporters' Association. All fans (including those overseas with technology available today) can then be represented by an elected body and have an official input into what is happening at the club. That is the way forward. Unfortunately whilst many talented individuals are happy to tinker about photoshopping daft pictures they can't be bothered with the obvious solution and the hard ground work that entails.

What's the point of that, they won't listen.

As I have said before, regarding the Manager, his fate is in his own hands. He has to gain the points required and he is well aware of that.

Like last season? If any of the 19 other clubs in the league had the sort of record we have he would have been sacked straight after the final game of last season. As each day goes by and he remains in the job it becomes more and more obvious that something stinks in regards as to why he is still in a job.

[Elegia]

Do you know them, Mercerman? Have you met them?

Our owners are more than able to provide everything that a Rovers Fan could desire. But whilst they are having to worry about protests and the like they can't get on with getting the club sorted out. They are in it for the long run and they are not about failure. There have been difficulties, and people being trusted in good faith who did not have the best interests for the club, we all know about these, but somehow certain fans have turned themselves into paragons who have never made mistakes or said something they later regretted. The owners are not asset strippers - they have no need to be.

Nobody is protesting to their faces, inside the offices at ewood, brockhall or inside their houses, so how can 3 protests before and after games have a direct effect on their ability to sort things out?

Steve Kean's fate may well be in his own hands, as all managers are. But the decision to sack him rests with venkys and the longer they shirk that decision the more difficult it will be for a new manager to fix.

[glen9mullan]

I seriously doubt 4000 people were in the ground after the Spurs game, regardless of what the Police said. I wasn't there, but have seen the videos and it looks like a few hundred. 4000 people would be approx 80% of the whole BBE lower full.

I also think it's fairly obvious why so many fans have an 'anti-protest' attitude.

For the first 10 minutes of the protest people remained in their own stands, before they where asked to leave, thats how many it peaked at,

and in the Blackburn end alone it peaked at a couple of thousand for around 20 minutes, I WAS there,

[47er]

As I have said before, regarding the Manager, his fate is in his own hands. He has to gain the points required and he is well aware of that.

Mum, I'm saddened to read this from you.The manager's fate should not be in his own hands, it should be in the hands of the owners responsible for appointing him! After the hundreds of matches, if not thousands, that you must have seen, I'm astonished that you are so complacent and still looking to the future with this manager-------the worst we have ever had. Did you support Ince and want him to be given longer?

"He has to gain the points required"--------at what point would you conclude he hasn't and he can't? He's already had 31 games-----that's not far off a whole season and he doesn't even average one point per game! At what point would you consider he should go? The more games he gets, the more damage he does and the less time there is left to turn it round.

While they have deal with protests they can't get round to sorting out the club???????? So the mess is our fault? The club didn't need sorting out till they bought it and dismantled it! It didn't need a new manager for a start.

You obviously like the Raos very much---I haven't had the pleasure of meeting them but if I had and if I'd managed to build some sort of relationship with them, I'd be using that advantage in the best interests of the club I love.

I'd be urging them to see that they made a huge mistake in appointing Kean and that if they were to have any chance of getting the respect you believe they deserve, then they must sack Kean now.

This may save us from relegation and therefore preserve their investment and would persuade most fans they should get a second chance. We could all then pull together (assuming the new appointment isn't as bad as the first!)

Its weeks since you wrote that "things have to change" and they haven't have they? We are still in the relegation zone and more clubs are pulling away.

Come on, throw the blinkers away. It doesn't matter how nice and genuine you think the owners are, how exciting their plans for the future are or how rich they are, on their watch we are going down now.

[mark1875]

For the first 10 minutes of the protest people remained in their own stands, before they where asked to leave, thats how many it peaked at,

and in the Blackburn end alone it peaked at a couple of thousand for around 20 minutes, I WAS there,

i was also there and there were groups in the Darwen End, Riverside and the Jack Walker and the Blackburn end at the start of the protest. At its peak i say the estimate isn't far off.

[glen9mullan]

Do you know them, Mercerman? Have you met them?

Our owners are more than able to provide everything that a Rovers Fan could desire. But whilst they are having to worry about protests and the like they can't get on with getting the club sorted out. They are in it for the long run and they are not about failure. There have been difficulties, and people being trusted in good faith who did not have the best interests for the club, we all know about these, but somehow certain fans have turned themselves into paragons who have never made mistakes or said something they later regretted. The owners are not asset strippers - they have no need to be.

Please don't come up with a load of bunkum that you or your best mate's third cousin's sister heard from the chippie owner's granny's dog because a fair bit of it is simply not true. People are spending their time arguing and writing blogs about things that are just rumours when they could be doing something so much more productive to actively help the club to move forward.

The best thing fans can do is to get on with setting up the Supporters' Trust or some other sort of Supporters' Association. All fans (including those overseas with technology available today) can then be represented by an elected body and have an official input into what is happening at the club. That is the way forward. Unfortunately whilst many talented individuals are happy to tinker about photoshopping daft pictures they can't be bothered with the obvious solution and the hard ground work that entails.

As I have said before, regarding the Manager, his fate is in his own hands. He has to gain the points required and he is well aware of that.

Wow you really have had your head turned, Even the people who work at the club are at a loss with the new owners and the lack of communication.

1. No-one can get answers from the owners.

2. Steve Kean will not report information to the board

3. The board will not communicate with fans, because they don't know the answers.

4 .Learnt their lessons? Badly advised?, Why is Jerome Anderson still actively involved?

5. They can't do their job because of protests? How about trying there is protest because they have not done their job?

6. Paragons? Try concerned fans who have been supporting the club for decades through the thick and thin and know the history of the club and the values the club has been built on. Blackburn and Blackburn Rovers flows through the blood of so many supporters and you may be bought with perks, but the everyday supporter won't have their head turned

I have chose to not comment on so many of your inuendo posts over the last couple of months, but I can't understand how you can be happy with the current sitiuation, Was you a supporter under Brian Kidd? was you a supporter before Jack Walker?

Rant over

[AggyBlue]

Do you know them, Mercerman? Have you met them?

Ha ha, I've been waiting for a Puner to throw that in

[glen9mullan]

Wow you really have had your head turned, Even the people who work at the club are at a loss with the new owners and the lack of communication.

1. No-one can get answers from the owners.

2. Steve Kean will not report information to the board

3. The board will not communicate with fans, because they don't know the answers.

4 .Learnt their lessons? Badly advised?, Why is Jerome Anderson still actively involved?

5. They can't do their job because of protests? How about trying there is protest because they have not done their job?

6. Paragons? Try concerned fans who have been supporting the club for decades through the thick and thin and know the history of the club and the values the club has been built on. Blackburn and Blackburn Rovers flows through the blood of so many supporters and you may be bought with perks, but the everyday supporter won't have their head turned

I have chose to not comment on so many of your inuendo posts over the last couple of months, but I can't understand how you can be happy with the current sitiuation, Was you a supporter under Brian Kidd? was you a supporter before Jack Walker? In fact how long have you been a supporter?

Rant over

[glen9mullan]

Okay then, I assume that means that you can chant what you want during the game including chants aimed at the owners or Kean. Not that I agree with it, but there you go.

And nice, getting the protest banners out whilst the guys are warming up. Going to put them in the right frame of mind to play Chelsea, isn't it? Still, it suits your cause, because then you can blame Kean again, when they inevitably fail to win the game.

Can I ask a genuine question?

How long have you supported Blackburn Rovers? This is a valid question as it may help me understand your mindset, I'm also curious due to you living in an area where I have lots of family where rovers fans have been a rarity in the 25 years they have lived there

[mark1875]

Can I ask a genuine question?

How long have you supported Blackburn Rovers? This is a valid question as it may help me understand your mindset, I'm also curious due to you living in an area where I have lots of family where rovers fans have been a rarity in the 25 years they have lived there

originally supported Swindon Town i think as she used to be a resident there? wrote on their boards! thought it was common knowledge tbh lol

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10341~504339,00.html

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/8431075.Kids_put_heart_and_soul_into_Annie/

[glen9mullan]

originally supported Swindon Town i think as she used to be a resident there? wrote on their boards! thought it was common knowledge tbh lol

http://www.swindonto...~504339,00.html

http://www.swindonad...oul_into_Annie/

Just as I thought which annoys the pants out of me, because the town of Blackburn and Blackburn Rovers is what I stand for, its my identity and i'm proud of our heritage

[chris]

wow I've never known anyone to swap supporting teams before as an adult in my life, aren;t there rules against that.

I mean I wanted to support Liverpool when I was 5 years old but I was forced into supporting Blackburn.

this is a first for me.

So what happens if Roversmum moves to Newcastle?

Where ever I leave my hat, thats my team

[savage90]

Protests should be directed at VENKYS.

[perthblue02]

Do you know them, Mercerman? Have you met them?

Our owners are more than able to provide everything that a Rovers Fan could desire. But whilst they are having to worry about protests and the like they can't get on with getting the club sorted out. They are in it for the long run and they are not about failure. There have been difficulties, and people being trusted in good faith who did not have the best interests for the club, we all know about these, but somehow certain fans have turned themselves into paragons who have never made mistakes or said something they later regretted. The owners are not asset strippers - they have no need to be.

Please don't come up with a load of bunkum that you or your best mate's third cousin's sister heard from the chippie owner's granny's dog because a fair bit of it is simply not true. People are spending their time arguing and writing blogs about things that are just rumours when they could be doing something so much more productive to actively help the club to move forward.

The best thing fans can do is to get on with setting up the Supporters' Trust or some other sort of Supporters' Association. All fans (including those overseas with technology available today) can then be represented by an elected body and have an official input into what is happening at the club. That is the way forward. Unfortunately whilst many talented individuals are happy to tinker about photoshopping daft pictures they can't be bothered with the obvious solution and the hard ground work that entails.

As I have said before, regarding the Manager, his fate is in his own hands. He has to gain the points required and he is well aware of that.

Wow, I always looked at roversmum's post's as having substance and give a fairly constructive alternate viewpoint, seems to have changed since the Pune freebie and aiming slurs at anybody anti Kean and anti Venk'ys, noticed you didn't mention supporters getting on the fans forum , no sweat to me as under their rules I'm not classed as a supporter, and tbh I'd much rather dick about on photoshop (as you pointed out) .

As I know you love freebies if I send you this free t-shirt will you defend and show all hearted love for anything I do in the past, present and future (I'm thinking about buying a 136 year old company putting a lunatic in charge and running it into the ground), luv x PerthBlue02

p.s Born in Blackburn , First Rovers game 1972 ,moved away 2008 and want Kean out

[AllRoverAsia]

Our owners are more than able to provide everything that a Rovers Fan could desire.

Next time you're having a cozy chat with your mates in Pune please put me down for Rovers still being in the Premiership next season.

Based on what you say and how well you know the Raos it seems a small ask.

I saw my first Rovers game in 1963 and Rovers have always been the only team for me.

[AllRoverAsia]

Next time you're having a cozy chat with your mates in Pune please put me down for Rovers still being in the Premiership next season.

Based on what you say and how well you know the Raos it seems a small ask.

I saw my first Rovers game in 1963 and Rovers have always been the ONLY team for me

[SAS]

Roversmum whilst I have a lot of respect for you. I think your viewpoint is seriously clouded.

Our club is in a real mess, communication, guidance, management. I've never known a £60m per year turnover company behave like this.

As for I'm a bigger fan than you crap.

My first game, I was six week old and not looked back since.

Chelsea will be only my 3rd game this season, may be my last if things carry on.

I will be there for the protest against 'mismanagement'.

[brian_gallagher85]

Well said Scott, been a fan from a far for over 20 years and have had a season ticket for the last 4 years. Whilst I haven't been able to attend every game or anything close to it I thought it was the least I could do to in some small way support the team I love.

In it's current form I'm starting to question why I bother when those in control don't appear to give a damn about the club or it's lifeblood, i.e. the fans.

The Raos may talk a good game but actions speak louder than words and right now they have all the hallmarks of asset strippers!

[Mattyblue]

Whilst XLM doesn't help the cause, I have to admit I was genuinely surprised how many anti-protest people I spoke to at Norwich. That and how different the crowd felt, much more positive than recent home game. I know goals help and it doesn't shift my feelings to the manager, but it was interesting to see.

I don't find that surprising at all Glenn.

We have to remember that the majority of the fanbase don't spend countless hours getting in a tizz on internet forums, they don't know the 'insider gossip', they just watch their team on a Saturday.

Beerwins post summed it up pretty well, the mentality is with many 'we are bottom of the league and these lot are protesting and booing, that doesn't help us!'.

For me they can't see the wood for the trees, that by campaigning against the manager we could see a replacement move us away from the bottom- alas they don't see it that way and it is going to get pretty dicey on Ewood Park.

[broadsword]

Our owners are more than able to provide everything that a Rovers Fan could desire. But whilst they are having to worry about protests and the like they can't get on with getting the club sorted out.

What a load of old ######!

Poor old dragon lady can't get out of bed to write the cheques to bank-roll our assault on the top 4 because she's depressed and worried about the protests. She can't sack a lame-duck manager who's slowly taking us down because she's too busy cracking open the prozac and light ales trying to forget about those nasty protesting men.

The gap between what Venky's said they will do, and what they have done, is a gaping chasm. It's wider than the grand canyon.

Everything a rovers fan could desire? Aye, if he was a closet Burnley fan.

PS: And why does the club need sorting out? Because the Venky idiots have damn well ruined it! They've taken a well-run outfit and taken a hatchet to it and turned it into Broadmoor on a bad night! They're absolute half-wits and I wouldn't trust them to do a 'paper round.