[Archived] Supporters meeting with Club

[BPF]

Simple Truths

1. 1. Venkys have no real money.
   
2. 2. The club has taken on more debt even though it is supposed to have less debt
   
3. 3. Attendance is down.
   
4. 4. The fact that Kean is still in a job is enough of a reason to hate Venkys.
   

I lost faith in the manager in December.

I lost faith in Venkys after the Fulham game.

I lost faith in Blackburn Rovers the moment the club declared war on the fans by blasting music over the protests.

I love helping to run the NY Rovers but at the moment I'm struggling to find the enthusiasm to do it anymore. If I was married to the club I'd be thinking about pricing up divorce lawyers. I've been through many ups and downs in twenty two years. I can stomach the team not performing, but this situation is totally absurd and I can't watch it any longer. Whilst Venkys are owners i'm more of a casual observer than a supporter. As far as I'm concerned they have already destroyed this wonderful club and now I'm hoping that it destoys them.

[perthblue02]

I think people need to lay off mum a lot because I believe she & her husband have been put in an impossible situation because I do believe her when she says Venkys have got lots of money to make Rovers truly big but the truth being they are not willing to put their own money into rovers which you can hardly blame mum for plus given the fact you have a stubborn woman who buy's Coco's BS makes it a desperate situation. Hopefully P.Hunt goes through with his threat of quitting in 2 weeks if that doesn't work nothing will. 1 thing that has just struck me is that from the Pune 9 we have heard from Balaji & Venkatesh but Mrs D has never told us what coco has that makes him so bulletproof I think they also need to appoint a chairman and they need to clarify when they will appoint a new chairman. I also think it is unfair to throw things at mum if the venkys decide not to use their own money even though they have loads but I do agree the owners need to speak to the rest of the supporters about their long term vision for the club. I also believe they have done the phases wrong first they should be looking to establish the team in the premier league then once that happens they should be looking to promote the brand in India not the other way round. Hopefully they will start to learn before it's too late.

An impossible situation that could have been easily solved by the following

"would you like to come on an all expenses paid trip to see how wealthy we are?" Answer - "no thank you, I live in Blackburn, the club is in Blackburn, you charitable work in India and your car collection as no relevance to your ownership of the club, I will wait till your next visit and we will discuss what you have done to improve Blackburn Rovers during the last 11 months by the way do you know we are in the bottom third of the table again"

The thing is that since the trip roversmum's posts are becoming more and more bizare, she used to be a poster that offered a well argued view point, but has said absolutely nothing since coming back apart from what a lovely family they are.

[John]

Simple Truths

1. 1. Venkys have no real money.
   
2. 2. The club has taken on more debt even though it is supposed to have less debt
   
3. 3. Attendance is down.
   
4. 4. The fact that Kean is still in a job is enough of a reason to hate Venkys.
   

I lost faith in the manager in December.

I lost faith in Venkys after the Fulham game.

I lost faith in Blackburn Rovers the moment the club declared war on the fans by blasting music over the protests.

I love helping to run the NY Rovers but at the moment I'm struggling to find the enthusiasm to do it anymore. If I was married to the club I'd be thinking about pricing up divorce lawyers. I've been through many ups and downs in twenty two years. I can stomach the team not performing, but this situation is totally absurd and I can't watch it any longer. Whilst Venkys are owners i'm more of a casual observer than a supporter. As far as I'm concerned they have already destroyed this wonderful club and now I'm hoping that it destoys them.

Know what you mean, it doesn’t feel the same – something does not feel right and it is also quite depressing thinking about it.

[tomphil]

An impossible situation that could have been easily solved by the following

"would you like to come on an all expenses paid trip to see how wealthy we are?" Answer - "no thank you, I live in Blackburn, the club is in Blackburn, you charitable work in India and your car collection as no relevance to your ownership of the club, I will wait till your next visit and we will discuss what you have done to improve Blackburn Rovers during the last 11 months by the way do you know we are in the bottom third of the table again"

The thing is that since the trip roversmum's posts are becoming more and more bizare, she used to be a poster that offered a well argued view point, but has said absolutely nothing since coming back apart from what a lovely family they are.

It's that Harrods christmas hamper she'll be recieving off Balaji and co thats interfeared with her thinking somewhat lol

(only banter)

[greco]

So John Williams would have met with the supporters. Yes, but would it really have made any difference? I'm not convinced on that in the circumstances.

let me get this straight, an intelligent man, who ran our club with sense and allowed supporters into his office to speak thier mind, that would make no difference.

But travellng across the world on a freebie and trying to do the exact same thing, with a bunch of retards, would have done so.?

your post are either delusional or the work of someone who has been bought by the V´s.

[philipl]

Sorry roversmum but oh how I wish you are right.

I would dance naked round the Ewood Centre Circle if you were.

That is how sure I am that you are wrong.

Tragically

[Tom]

Oh thank you very much Philip now we can't win either way!!!

[greco]

to any of the mods, why have my post been removed.?

[Amo]

So John Williams would have met with the supporters. Yes, but would it really have made any difference? I'm not convinced on that in the circumstances. And I'm disappointed that the protesters are not building on the links they are making, which I rather hoped GlenM would have the sense to do, rather than organising planes and nonsense and trying to disrupt the players who will be on the pitch - it's pretty obvious the tactics here are to disrupt the team as much as possible - it's going to be a tough one against Chelsea in any case but of course that plays right into everyone's hands. Never mind the issue about banners - that was pretty much a no go to be honest if you think about it, there will be non-protesting supporters (who have as much right to a view on matters) mixed in with the protesters and that most certainly could lead to trouble.

COYB.

You still fail to accept that two of our better performances (vs. Arsenal, vs. Spurs) both came after fan protests. If anything, the protests take all the pressure off of them and place it firmly on the imposter of a manager.

[Mercer]

Roversmum, sorry but I think so much of your recent content has been very, very wrong.

[rebelmswar]

Roversmum, you are wrong, wrong and wrong again on virtually everything you post on here.

You are in a minority of probably 10 in 20,000.

Whilst I disagree with her on pretty much most of her points, I believe that it is wholly unnecessary, and wrong to be belligerent to any of our fans.

She has been a loyal fan of the club for a very long time and an exceedingly polite and wonderful lady.

Vitriol amongst us is not needed, some solidarity most certainly is.

[Mercer]

Whilst I disagree with her on pretty much most of her points, I believe that it is wholly unnecessary, and wrong to be belligerent to any of our fans.

She has been a loyal fan of the club for a very long time and an exceedingly polite and wonderful lady.

Vitriol amongst us is not needed, some solidarity most certainly is.

Fair play, removed the last line - could you please edit yours to remove same.

[rebelmswar]

Fair play, removed the last line - could you please edit yours to remove same.

No probs, you should do the same.

[PAFELL]

I think I can see why this meeting was arranged with John Newsham. There needed to be sensible discussion and I am assuming that was the case, and so things can move on. A step at a time.

So John Williams would have met with the supporters. Yes, but would it really have made any difference? I'm not convinced on that in the circumstances. And I'm disappointed that the protesters are not building on the links they are making, which I rather hoped GlenM would have the sense to do, rather than organising planes and nonsense and trying to disrupt the players who will be on the pitch - it's pretty obvious the tactics here are to disrupt the team as much as possible - it's going to be a tough one against Chelsea in any case but of course that plays right into everyone's hands. Never mind the issue about banners - that was pretty much a no go to be honest if you think about it, there will be non-protesting supporters (who have as much right to a view on matters) mixed in with the protesters and that most certainly could lead to trouble.

In any case you will be able to display them after the match.

The club is NOT dying, it's very much alive, just needs a bit of tweaking, that's all.

COYB.

You are, like everybody else entitled to your opinion. Even if the majority on here believe you are wrong. Protestors are supporting the team. But they are not supporting the manager or the owners. The manager for obvious reasons - unless of course 6 wins in 31 matches is deemed acceptable, a record worse than Ince, that cost him his job. As Paul Ince lost his job for having such a bad record, why should Kean be an acception to that policy?

The banner ban is riddiculas. They could have said no bigger than A4. I have been to wembley for fa cup finals where every supporter - of both clubs - were given small banner size - flags to wave.

Doing anything to hinder protests is also wrong. Are they going to give supporters a football chant sheet next. Tell supporters what they can and cannot chant. Are they going to ban the Jack Walker chant? Protestors should be able to protest about anything, if it is done in a legal way.

A protestor automatically knows that there would be people who hold contary views. Both sides of the argument have a right to their say.

It is also fair to say, that even though I do not accept your opinion, nobody should throw insults at you because your opinion differs than others.

As to the owners. It is my view that they are a bunch of liars. Who have been playing trick or treat with the supporters from day one. Sadly they gave the treats to their damn chickens. I believe the owners to be corrupt and I believe evidence is slowly piling up against them.

You went to India to meet the owners - yet the Pune 9 didn't meet Mrs D - that in itself raises questions in my opinion. I believe it was right that you and the others went. The ball was then put into venkys court.

It appears to me that they treated you all like mushrooms, kept you in the dark and fed you bulls'it.

Sorry roversmum but oh how I wish you are right.

I would dance naked round the Ewood Centre Circle if you were.

That is how sure I am that you are wrong.

Tragically

Thank God she is wrong then.

[yoda]

Does anyone during the games chant there is only one Venkys, or there is only one Steve Kean (thank god that is true by the way)

By that measure no one supports either of them

Spin that cocco

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

The banner ban is riddiculas.

Personally I think the abuse thrown to Mum shows that the banner ban isn't riciulous. This forum shows how fractious the support currently is - and the risk of fall out from a pre-match in stadium protest is IMO very real.

Though you were gracious enough to say that mum was entitled to your opinion - some of the other posters have demonstrated the same blinkered self righteous opinions that they accuse the club of. All because you don't agree with her opinions is no reason for some of the things typed on here.

[ABBEY]

Does anyone during the games chant there is only one Venkys, or there is only one Steve Kean (thank god that is true by the way)

By that measure no one supports either of them

Spin that cocco

Can't recall any kean chants for ages.

[SAS]

Personally I think the abuse thrown to Mum shows that the banner ban isn't riciulous. This forum shows how fractious the support currently is - and the risk of fall out from a pre-match in stadium protest is IMO very real.

Though you were gracious enough to say that mum was entitled to your opinion - some of the other posters have demonstrated the same blinkered self righteous opinions that they accuse the club of. All because you don't agree with her opinions is no reason for some of the things typed on here.

I think mum is in a really really small minority with her views.

And I don't think it would flare trouble up at wood in a pre match protest.

In fact I'd say mum is a "1%er" .

[Kelbo]

I think mum is in a really really small minority with her views.

And I don't think it would flare trouble up at wood in a pre match protest.

In fact I'd say mum is a "1%er" .

Whilst in no way do I criticise Roversmum for her stance on this matter, indeed, in the early days she was herself critical of the way the owners were running the club, however one thing puzzles me, why the change of thought?

Respectfully Mum as a Rovers fan, and a loyal one at that, what made the change in your thoughts?

I would be honestly interested to know, this is no witch hunt, just terribly curious!

[broadsword]

Roversmum is seemingly defending the indefensible, and offers no real proof of what she's saying.

It's stunningly obvious that it's not the protesters harming this club, it's Venky's. So why would anyone take the side of Venky's when it's highly likely they'll carry on as they are.

I just find it a very odd stance to take, and I wonder why.

[DE.]

Whilst in no way do I criticise Roversmum for her stance on this matter, indeed, in the early days she was herself critical of the way the owners were running the club, however one thing puzzles me, why the change of thought?

Respectfully Mum as a Rovers fan, and a loyal one at that, what made the change in your thoughts?

I would be honestly interested to know, this is no witch hunt, just terribly curious!

I'd assume Mum met the Venky brothers some time after she was critical of them and the way they presented themselves has obviously enamoured them to her. I was reading the protest thread from back in April and was surprised to see mum being critical of Venky's in there!

I'd be curious to know exactly what they've said to make her so utterly convinced they're doing good for the club.

[47er]

Personally I think the abuse thrown to Mum shows that the banner ban isn't riciulous. This forum shows how fractious the support currently is - and the risk of fall out from a pre-match in stadium protest is IMO very real.

Though you were gracious enough to say that mum was entitled to your opinion - some of the other posters have demonstrated the same blinkered self righteous opinions that they accuse the club of. All because you don't agree with her opinions is no reason for some of the things typed on here.

She hasn't been abused. Stop creating strawmen (or women). People have responded to a series of fairly fanciful postings from Roversmum in recent times. And they have every right to. How about telling her not to attack Glen given all the work he's putting in? An accusation that the aim of him and others is to disrupt the players doesn't sit well with me and should be strongly rebutted. We can leave the sanitised stuff to the LT or the official site (Lee must be feeling it. Anyone spoken to him lately? Is he still there?)

I do notice that posts replying to her are usually couched in terms of sorrow for what she used to represent.

[roversmum]

"it's pretty obvious the tactics here are to disrupt the team as much as possible"

Eh?!

So you think Glen (and the other guy's)'s tactic is to disrupt the team as much as possible?!

It's quite clearly the opposite - the team needs supporting more than ever.

It's Kean and Venky's who need to feel pressure, before (hopefully) taking action to give us a fighting chance of staying up this year.

I do wonder if you're on the wind-up, with some of the stuff you've recently come out with on here, Roversmum.

To be fair, no more than anyone else...

[yoda]

To be fair, no more than anyone else...

ever thought of going into politics?

[EgyptianPete]

To be fair, no more than anyone else...

MMmmm no answer or responses to the questions posed to you then !!!