[Archived] Where Do We Go From Here?

[Stuart]

Ok, so a number of protests and novel ideas, including t-shirts, a failed balloon display (unfortunately) and a media-magnetic fly-over, Venkys can be in no doubt that there is a growing feeling that Kean should go and be replaced.

Alternatively, Kean may spin the dwindling numbers and the removal of banners as success and a sign that they are wearing the fan-base down. Regardless of whether it's 1%, 10%, or 99%, Kean would have to be deluded to think that he has the backing of the majority and it may just be a war of attrition that he is trying to win.

Fans are clearly divided and many people simply see the protesters as trouble makers - the fact they haven't attended a protest has reinforced their preconceptions - as the truth is they have been orderly, respectful and well marshalled, and anything but troublesome. Although I think some people just don't like being told what to do or have a warped view that abstinence equals loyalty. Yet I'll wager there isn't a single person who would prefer to stick with Kean if, say, Hughes was interested and approached.

So if Venkys don't act now, they are not going to and further protests in the same vein are not going to achieve anything further.

That being the case, does the attention turn towards Venkys? A risky strategy in my view (although I'd be VERY interested the the thoughts of the Pune 9 now that they have had time to relect on their meeting with Belaji and they words of comfort they took away). I would much rather try to encourage Venkys to start to love the club but if the Walker family couldn't develop the affection required to run us then it's very unlikely we'll convince them. Has to be worth a shot though.

If there is any relationship between the FF and our owner or board, this needs to be exploited to turn the into fans and get them to see our point of view.

Unfortunately whilst there is a divided fan-base this is going to be difficult and whatever happens next it needs to focus on uniting the fans.

For me, the next stage really needs to be aimed at getting the media onside. We have a number of journalists on here and/or people with contacts and there needs to be a concerted effort to try to find out why Kean is SO, unnaturally, bulletproof. Any shred of evidence, if there is any, should be turned over to the football authorities to investigate further.

Alternative, and legal, suggestions as to how we move forward (together)?

[Mattyblue]

Venkys can be in no doubt that there is a growing feeling that Kean should go and be replaced.

Unbelieveably I don't think that is the case.

[broadsword]

The pub.

[Stuart]

Unbelieveably I don't think that is the case.

Surely they can't not be aware of the banner today. Where I was coming from there is if Kean has been able to play down events and even avoid the Raos being aware, that must surely change now?

[Tom]

The obvious answer to the title is - The Championship.

As for what we do as fans I'm not so sure. The owners know the feeling of the fans now I have no doubt about that but they seem unwilling to take action. I think the only time they will act is when it is too late sadly, even then I'm not sure

[Mattyblue]

Surely they can't not be aware of the banner today. Where I was coming from there is if Kean has been able to play down events and even avoid the Raos being aware, that must surely change now?

No my point was that there is no 'growing feeling' that he should go, not from the fanbase anyway.

[Emge]

Venkys dont care - because they have probably gained alot of publicity for owning a PL football club (doesnt even matter that its Rovers).

That was their goal - and it seems they are very happy. But what happens when we are relegated and stop being a PL-football club? That is the scary thought

[Plastic Head]

Where Do We Go From Here?

The Championship

[Stuart]

No my point was that there is no 'growing feeling' that he should go, not from the fanbase anyway.

Maybe not necessarily after today's game, most people expected defeat if they're honest, but EVERYONE I have spoken to thinks Kean isn't up to it.

I'm trying not to turn this into another discussion about how bad Kean isbut about what action can be taken to change things.

If the overwhelming responds is to give in an watch the slide, then I guess that will answer my question but there must surely be another angle yet? The media need to drive the point home now. Sadly with plebs like The Preston Hairdresser getting air time and column inches it's difficult.

[perthblue02]

Ok, so a number of protests and novel ideas, including t-shirts, a failed balloon display (unfortunately) and a media-magnetic fly-over, Venkys can be in no doubt that there is a growing feeling that Kean should go and be replaced.

Alternatively, Kean may spin the dwindling numbers and the removal of banners as success and a sign that they are wearing the fan-base down. Regardless of whether it's 1%, 10%, or 99%, Kean would have to be deluded to think that he has the backing of the majority and it may just be a war of attrition that he is trying to win.

Fans are clearly divided and many people simply see the protesters as trouble makers - the fact they haven't attended a protest has reinforced their preconceptions - as the truth is they have been orderly, respectful and well marshalled, and anything but troublesome. Although I think some people just don't like being told what to do or have a warped view that abstinence equals loyalty. Yet I'll wager there isn't a single person who would prefer to stick with Kean if, say, Hughes was interested and approached.

So if Venkys don't act now, they are not going to and further protests in the same vein are not going to achieve anything further.

That being the case, does the attention turn towards Venkys? A risky strategy in my view (although I'd be VERY interested the the thoughts of the Pune 9 now that they have had time to relect on their meeting with Belaji and they words of comfort they took away). I would much rather try to encourage Venkys to start to love the club but if the Walker family couldn't develop the affection required to run us then it's very unlikely we'll convince them. Has to be worth a shot though.

If there is any relationship between the FF and our owner or board, this needs to be exploited to turn the into fans and get them to see our point of view.

Unfortunately whilst there is a divided fan-base this is going to be difficult and whatever happens next it needs to focus on uniting the fans.

For me, the next stage really needs to be aimed at getting the media onside. We have a number of journalists on here and/or people with contacts and there needs to be a concerted effort to try to find out why Kean is SO, unnaturally, bulletproof. Any shred of evidence, if there is any, should be turned over to the football authorities to investigate further.

Alternative, and legal, suggestions as to how we move forward (together)?

I think this is the next stage and the way to go, and firmly targeted at Venky's , Anderson and Kean. Any facts should then be forwarded to the relevant authorities and used as printed flyers and given out at matches. The majority of supporters don't frequent messageboards , and get their information from Venky HQ via the Lancashire Evening Telegraph (Remember when they had a Rovers reporter instead of a Venky Press release and SSN recycler ).

Getting Information out there is the way to go via use of hand flyers as well as social media.

[RibbleValleyRover]

It's looking very grim indeed. By the looks of it there is nothing we can do but accept that Rovers are going to be relegated and that huge financial ramifications of that will likely see Rovers cease to exist within the next 5 years.

Our only hope is that Mrs D wakes up and smells the coffee. By sacking Kean immediately and replacing him with a proper manager Rovers still have a chance of surviving and keeping their business reputation intact. But that window of salvation is closing rapidly, the decision has to be made now not 5 or 6 games later.

Mrs D is the only one who can save this club right now, not Kean.

[Amo]

We're headed on a one-way ticket to The Championship.

Venky's don't care, Steve Kean don't care, and most of our supporters don't care.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

I'm afraid the fans who can see what is really happening to our club are losing the battle..apathy reigns supreme now and it appears many 'fans' are just excepting our fate.

Its all a rather sad affair.

[Al]

Trouble is that if we stop protesting now Kean has won and he will not hesitate to ram it down our throats that supersilious smirking way that we have seen all too often. I hate the man personally. I feel so frustrated.

[martonrover]

Unbelieveably I don't think that is the case.

Where I was sat in the Riverside people were anti protest but also anti Kean. I think there is general apathy and resignation that we've had it.

[Waggy76]

I'm afraid the fans who can see what is really happening to our club are losing the battle..apathy reigns supreme now and it appears many 'fans' are just excepting our fate.

Its all a rather sad affair.

I think you maybe right , I do not know a single Rovers fan who believes we are NOT going to be relegated ..It is obvious Kean isn't going to be sacked .So people are saying sod it !!!!We are going down .

[Stuart]

I think you maybe right , I do not know a single Rovers fan who believes we are NOT going to be relegated ..It is obvious Kean isn't going to be sacked .So people are saying sod it !!!!We are going down .

The most frustrating part is that with be right man in charge, with immediate effect, has 27 games to put it right.

We surely can't give up while there is still some hope?

But the approach does need further thought, particularly how to avoid the fan base tearing itself apart.

[ABBEY]

The answer is we go down and down and then bust!

[koi]

I think you maybe right , I do not know a single Rovers fan who believes we are NOT going to be relegated ..It is obvious Kean isn't going to be sacked .So people are saying sod it !!!!We are going down .

Amazingly I know one! A fan who has had a season ticket longer than I've been alive, a proper home and away fan. He still thinks Kean will be sort it out. Incredible.

[Waggy76]

The answer is we go down and down and then bust!

You got it in one !

[waggy]

from the day venkys took over,the club has been on a downward spiral.no rovers fan wants to see the club relagated,every fan has the right to protest,every fan also has the right not to protest.calling fellow fans for not protesting is very childish and also borders on bullying.the sooner the protests are aimed at the venky family the better,they are responsible for everything that goes on at ewood.so the blame lies at there door and no one else,s

[Jock]

Its the Indian way, beat you into submission.

We have to be ready for a nasty fight.Im amazed how many people today said we were owned by gangsters,or indian mafia or just crooks.

We have to stand firm against these bullies.

[AllRoverAsia]

Its the Indian way, beat you into submission.

We have to be ready for a nasty fight.Im amazed how many people today said we were owned by gangsters,or indian mafia or just crooks.

We have to stand firm against these bullies.

Well said - someone with the courage to speak the feelings of IMO many about our ''Owners'' and by association our shyster Manager and Board.

[Jock]

Anyone hear the rubbish spouted on 606 Radio 5?

It went something like this. "next we have a Rovers fan on the line,are you a good rovers fan or a bad one?"

WTF does a good one or a bad one mean?

Then the Rovers fan said "i'm a good one and i have to say the plane deflated the players and thats why we lost".

Didnt look like that to me, i always thought it as Keans job to deflate the players with his half-time teamtalk.

So Venkys and their puppet Roberts get their spin on the radio again.

Roberts got mugged by a caller tonight saying that he always sits on the fence.

[Beta Ray Bill]

Anyone hear the rubbish spouted on 606 Radio 5?

It went something like this. "next we have a Rovers fan on the line,are you a good rovers fan or a bad one?"

WTF does a good one or a bad one mean?

Then the Rovers fan said "i'm a good one and i have to say the plane deflated the players and thats why we lost".

Didnt look like that to me, i always thought it as Keans job to deflate the players with his half-time teamtalk.

So Venkys and their puppet Roberts get their spin on the radio again.

Roberts got mugged by a caller tonight saying that he always sits on the fence.

Was that caller as good as last weeks who "demanded" Roberts comment on Venkys and Kean because he was a licence fee payer and was paying his wages!