Reedy You're A Star Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 but what if Venkys are asking for release clauses should he not meet targets? He almost promised them top 10, so they must be very disappointed in him. or maybe saying, we have faith in you but if you don't deliever on your promises you must leave. If they were REALLY backing him they would extend his contract, not change the current terms. What if a clause like that was already in there, but now, as he's very unlikely to deliver on those promises, it is being "readjusted"? Unlikely, I know. But, I wouldn't put it past the nest of scheming barstewards.
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tomphil Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 It's all clever PR again, he prob signed it ages ago and they darent announce it. News of it then gets leaked out, a tckt deal gets announced then if and its a big if we were to get 3 decent results in next 3 games it will be announced he now on a 5 year deal
davulsukur Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 but what if Venkys are asking for release clauses should he not meet targets? He almost promised them top 10, so they must be very disappointed in him. or maybe saying, we have faith in you but if you don't deliever on your promises you must leave. If they were REALLY backing him they would extend his contract, not change the current terms. Could be, but i would think that setting him targets would be a dangerous move. With some tough fixtures left in the season still to go and a run of 6 games where points can be picked up starting in our next game, giving him any extra time to meet these targets is risky, should he fail and is sacked down the line, a manager change would in all likelyhood be too late to save our premier league status.
ABBEY Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 Venky would not allow their investment get trashed under kean ,so I guess there looking at a clause in his deal. It's already been trashedffs
Mr Maureen Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 How do these people have a business if the handle failure like this. It makes no bloody sense giving this fool a new contract. Surely this will drive the entire fan base to protest. Those against the protest does this change your mind? These people have a business because daddy gave them a business.
Mercer Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 CryerRoversAndrew Cryer I think it is important to note this contract has not been signed and Im sure it won't be until results improve. But why are they even discussing one ?
John Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 I am so proud of them - http://www.venkys.com/about-us/
FourLaneBlue Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 Why would they insert any clause when they obviously do not want to sack him? Remember, this is a "brilliant" manager. With the mortgage in place, they must have the money to sack him if need be. They just don´t want to.
deftangel Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 CryerRoversAndrew Cryer I think it is important to note this contract has not been signed and Im sure it won't be until results improve. But why are they even discussing one ? I said as much to him on Twitter. It's a slap in the face to fans to even consider offering him a revised deal at this stage. THAT is the important thing here. We could pick up a couple of wins from here, I'm actually rather hopeful we might for the first time in a while but that won't make his record anything close to acceptable reading. 8 wins out of 34 is still rubbish and not worthy of a new deal
tonygreenbank Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 If Kean gets a new contract you won't see me again. Season ticket or not. In that case can you send it to me and i will make sure it goes to someone who is unable to afford to go anymore and is so keen to do so( sorry to use the k word). I have just read through 17 pages of the most depressing comments over a rumour that Kean may have got another contract.We do not know if its an improved one or an updated one or whatever it is.We do not need to know.Why is it our business to be aware of a contract between employer and employee? So many posters seem to have the facts; even meeting strangers in a pub who happens to know everythng about this!How would you feel about revealing the terms of your own contracts to people you dont really know.Innocent Indian media magnets are going to be tweeted over this international incident. Season tickets sent back. Indignation abounds. Hysteria has swept across this message board and certain posters cant wait to stick the knife in without asking basic questions. Wait for the evidence to come through before making assumptions. I note with interest that Everton are in serious talks with Indian business people who want to invest in the club. Their directors might well see the benefits of connecting with one of the worlds leading economies and see the potential for growth. Is it not possible that we could benefit from venky`s situation? Rovers have always been at the forefront of change in football`s history.Being involved in India is another example. We have to be self financing and solvent by next year according to Uefa. I think we might need the Venky`s help in this matter.
JoeBlueWhite Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 We do not need to know.Why is it our business to be aware of a contract between employer and employee? Your whole post is in WTF territory but this takes it over the edge. Maybe we should be in the know because we will be the ones helping rebuild our club after Kean and Venky's have done their worst and f**ked off.
Kelbo Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 In that case can you send it to me and i will make sure it goes to someone who is unable to afford to go anymore and is so keen to do so( sorry to use the k word). I have just read through 17 pages of the most depressing comments over a rumour that Kean may have got another contract.We do not know if its an improved one or an updated one or whatever it is.We do not need to know.Why is it our business to be aware of a contract between employer and employee? So many posters seem to have the facts; even meeting strangers in a pub who happens to know everythng about this!How would you feel about revealing the terms of your own contracts to people you dont really know.Innocent Indian media magnets are going to be tweeted over this international incident. Season tickets sent back. Indignation abounds. Hysteria has swept across this message board and certain posters cant wait to stick the knife in without asking basic questions. Wait for the evidence to come through before making assumptions. I note with interest that Everton are in serious talks with Indian business people who want to invest in the club. Their directors might well see the benefits of connecting with one of the worlds leading economies and see the potential for growth. Is it not possible that we could benefit from venky`s situation? Rovers have always been at the forefront of change in football`s history.Being involved in India is another example. We have to be self financing and solvent by next year according to Uefa. I think we might need the Venky`s help in this matter. [/quote With Venkys record at Rovers, the last thing we would want is their help, havent they done enough bloody damage?
47er Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 Daily Mail says Kean hasn't YET signed new deal but its understood that Rovers have offered him "improved terms".
Elegia Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 Maybe they have offered him new terms but it is subject to actual results improving. And maybe he has a target of points to reach by a certain date. And maybe if he doesn't reach the set target the new contract offer is withdrawn and he is sacked. I have no inside knowledge whatsoever but it occurred to me that this could be why this new offer hasn't been signed.
tonygreenbank Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 Your whole post is in WTF territory but this takes it over the edge. Maybe we should be in the know because we will be the ones helping rebuild our club after Kean and Venky's have done their worst and f**ked off. evidence?
rebelmswar Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 evidence? The truth is out there Mr. Greenbank, you just have to want to look.
EwoodDawn Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 The truth is out there Mr. Greenbank, you just have to want to look. Seems the three wise monkeys are out there in their multitudes but the minute they decide it to be opportune to come to their senses...
Rovers_786 Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 check this out roversinsider Blackburn Rovers Spy WILL RELEASE INFORMATION IN THE MORNING! From his twitter who is this is this kamy
Backroom Tom Posted November 12, 2011 Backroom Posted November 12, 2011 It was noted when the LT photographed the Pune9 at Manchester Airport. One of them (naming no names) was wearing a "Mickey Mouse Club" T-Shirt. Wonder who that could be? That was an oversight on my part granted, I do like that t shirt though!
John Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 Is this the unbreakable bond, Kean and the Rao family? A pay rise for a shocking performance as manager, nothing surprises me with these jokers. As I mentioned yesterday, even the managers wife is getting on particularly well with Mrs Desai. Whole situation is sickening and I fear not for changing.
budha Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 I don't want to sound like a pro-Venky/Kean/whatever, but could it be that Kean has been working on very moderate terms so far and was promised PL-standard terms if he survives a year in the job? A bit like JW promised to Andrews?
bob fleming Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 I don't want to sound like a pro-Venky/Kean/whatever, but could it be that Kean has been working on very moderate terms so far and was promised PL-standard terms if he survives a year in the job? A bit like JW promised to Andrews? It could be that. It could be that if we avoided relegation for the first few months of this season then an improved contract would be awarded? How's about a new contract for keeping the Press on side? Keeping a relatively straight face in press conferences? How's about for not being able to spot low flying aircraft? Maybe for not playing Myles Anderson? Maybe because he hasn't done a Frankie Carbone out of Goodfellas and his wife hasn't turned up in a white mink coat yet? Who knows. It defies all logic. It really could be anything. One thing is for sure though - it sure as hell ain't for the good results on the pitch.
Mercer Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 I don't want to sound like a pro-Venky/Kean/whatever, but could it be that Kean has been working on very moderate terms so far and was promised PL-standard terms if he survives a year in the job? A bit like JW promised to Andrews? IMO, he is running a PL team very badly but still earns about two and a half times the salary of the British Prime Minister !!! The whole thing where Kean is concerned, IMV, is an absolute sick joke. Generally, there is far too much money in football which is alienating many, many supporters who are struggling financially to buy season tickets or even match day tickets. It is said that money is the root of all evil and I just hope that this does not prove to be the undoing of our club once all the proverbial eventually hits the fan.
den Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 I have just read through 17 pages of the most depressing comments over a rumour that Kean may have got another contract.We do not know if its an improved one or an updated one or whatever it is.We do not need to know.Why is it our business to be aware of a contract between employer and employee? Well, we don't need to know - you're right. It is the norm though, that football clubs publicise when a player or manager extends his contract. If the Raos were to break with this tradition, the obvious answer from fans already disgruntled with the clubs lack of PR, would be to say "well no, we don't need to know anything, but nor do we need to support you". When you ask for the club not to liase with the fans about things they're interested in, what you're actually doing is supporting the club's alienation of the fans. If you truly think the Raos are the right people for the club and that Steve Kean is the right man, then you would urge the club to clarify his contract position properly, not issue lame statements such as "he's not signed a new contract yet". After all, if people are behind him, there will be much rejoicing with the fans at this move. If there isn't, then open your eyes and ask why, because I don't remember a managers proposed contract extension recieving so much criticism.
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