[Archived] Steve Kean signs new deal?

[booth]

I was going to buy my Dad a new Rovers shirt for Christmas. I think I'll just buy him some beer, at least that will let him forget this debacle for a few hours. A shirt will just remind him of how thoroughly awful things are at the moment.

[Kendalrover]

This rumour may be true, it may not be true. The big problem is that we all know it could be true.

I for one have never doubted that SEM/Kentaro still have a big influence in the club. Whether this is contractural or for other reasons I do not know. If this story is true then I think it will confirm that Anderson is still in control and he would not let his client sign and contract that is not in his best interest.

What we are seeing at Rovers makes no logical business sense from a football point of view but it depends what your ulterior motive is.

There is plenty of money to be made by individuals when asset stripping a company and when you have finished and taken everything you can walk away with the company in receivership and no financial comeback.

To requote the Victorian prime minsiter Disraeli. 'There are lies. damned lies and Venkys'.

[m0r94n]

If true, appalling timing on the part of Kean and Venkys. Nonsensical also. Wtf is the big idea here? Kamy, please enlighten me as my head hurts.

Is it really poor timing? The international break takes pressure off of Kean as there are no games, therefore no protesters. He can stay clear of negative press and try to re-enforce his positive message in any press conference he takes. We all know most journos love him for some unknown reason, how many papers are going to go crazy over the fact he's signed a new deal?

Our first game after the break is against Wigan, and is no doubt one we should be winning (and you can bet he's let the owners know that). The positive message is further enforced, with a win against Wigan being us "turning the corner". Of course, a loss would no doubt be an unlucky result brought about by the fans not being behind the team .

[spencey7]

This can't be true.

For one thing, despite Kean's assertions that he "doesn't read the newspapers" etc, all involved have to know that the announcement of a new contract wouldn't exactly be welcomed by supporters with the club lying 19th. This, coupled with the fact that journalists are keen to put their name on real exclusive stories, has me doubting the veracity of the whole thing.

On the wider issue of ownership - Could it be that perhaps Venkys simply don't understand the ramifications of relegation from the Premier League? It's clear they know almost nothing about football and have been relying on advice from others since before the takeover.

In the light of events at Newcastle, how long before Ewood Park becomes The Venkys Stadium...?

[King Kenny's Magic]

Until they go I won't be back. I hope that someome exposes the lot of them,I REALLY HOPE they all get time for it too the 'orrible Cu*t$!!!!

[Mattyblue]

Why has Kean never been asked by the media to explain his appalling record?

Indeed, when the new contract was first mentioned, where was the question asking 'do you feel you deserve a new deal?'

[Seggie]

I was going to buy my Dad a new Rovers shirt for Christmas. I think I'll just buy him some beer, at least that will let him forget this debacle for a few hours. A shirt will just remind him of how thoroughly awful things are at the moment.

Go to the club shop, buy it ask for championship badges on it and get Kean Out printed out on the back

[BRFC95]

I agree, let my guard down when I posted this morning but won't happen again.

What is the point in keeping things to yourself, what is the point in asking questions if you're going to keep schtum. Everything should be out in the open, the more people that are aware of issues at the club the better, no matter how damning.

[alexanders]

The news have hit norwegian media.

[bestierover]

Is it really poor timing? The international break takes pressure off of Kean as there are no games, therefore no protesters. He can stay clear of negative press and try to re-enforce his positive message in any press conference he takes. We all know most journos love him for some unknown reason, how many papers are going to go crazy over the fact he's signed a new deal?

Our first game after the break is against Wigan, and is no doubt one we should be winning (and you can bet he's let the owners know that). The positive message is further enforced, with a win against Wigan being us "turning the corner". Of course, a loss would no doubt be an unlucky result brought about by the fans not being behind the team .

Poor timing in light of his current bad press amongst us fans. Forgot, we don't matter in the eyes of management.

[booth]

Go to the club shop, buy it ask for championship badges on it and get Kean Out printed out on the back

He would actually like that. Thank goodness numpties name only consists of four letters.

[onlyonejackwalker]

If true, then this news amazes me. The clown would still work his position without the new contract as he will know that he does not deserve improved terms after his performance to date. Therefore as a business person, why pay him more?

I know my staff will turn up for the agreed amount, if they duck or take unneccessary time off, or underperform in general, then I reserve the right to punish them financially. If they meet expectations there are very few dramas, if they exceed expectations they can then ask me to consider a pay increase.

What other industry awards chronic underperformance with a pay hike?

The banking system and Rovers?

[Kendalrover]

Why has Kean never been asked by the media to explain his appalling record?

Indeed, when the new contract was first mentioned, where was the question asking 'do you feel you deserve a new deal?'

This is one of the things I can't understand. When you listen to interviews the journo's ask him leading questions to enabale him to provide his famous 'positive' responses. For eaxmaple rather say 'do you think your record justifies the protests' they will say things like 'are you affected by the protests'.

This is obviously people like Agnew working hard with journo's to control what they do to make sure they ask the right questions. One of the key elements of this is that interviews all always held where the club PR team can assert maximum control, e.g. at Brockhole, Ewood other football grounds. From the journo's point of view they need to keep in with the club to get access so they water down their questions. From the press point of view the club hold all the aces.

As Kamy found out you can't go in there all guns blazing as they will just terminate the interview.

One thing you won't find Kean doing is meeting the fans on neutral ground as the would be no way the club could control the meeting and Kean would have to answer some difficult questions.

[den]

@SunMartinB Martin Blackburn

Steve kean has NOT signed a new contract #brfc. Promise. 100pc. Not yet anyway.

[Sparky Marky]

What is the point in keeping things to yourself, what is the point in asking questions if you're going to keep schtum. Everything should be out in the open, the more people that are aware of issues at the club the better, no matter how damning.

This is what I can't understand. I don't know who Kamy is, but his history of keeping so-called sensitive information to himself whilst still participating in a debate with a load of people who haven't a clue, is poor. Why even post that you know something if you don't want to be questioned about it??? If it was the first time then that would be a mistake, but I remember loads of times in the recent past....and he's not the only one..

[chris]

This is what I can't understand. I don't know who Kamy is, but his history of keeping so-called sensitive information to himself whilst still participating in a debate with a load of people who haven't a clue, is poor. Why even post that you know something if you don't want to be questioned about it??? If it was the first time then that would be a mistake, but I remember loads of times in the recent past....and he's not the only one..

it's a good point because he knows it will rattle some people, if it wasn't Kamy and someone else (e.g. Rodent_666 or Nicko) they would get A LOT of abuse.

[Kamy100]

This is what I can't understand. I don't know who Kamy is, but his history of keeping so-called sensitive information to himself whilst still participating in a debate with a load of people who haven't a clue, is poor. Why even post that you know something if you don't want to be questioned about it??? If it was the first time then that would be a mistake, but I remember loads of times in the recent past....and he's not the only one..

The problem is that posting sensitive information on here WITHOUT proof would almost certainly lead to legal action. While I believe what I have been told because it has come from people that I trust you can't just post it without proof. I am not the only one who knows about this, there are several national journos who are actively looking into this story. I was trying to give a little bit of context to why Kean may have been given a new contract, but maybe it wasn't wise to do that.

[Oslo Rover]

What is the point in keeping things to yourself, what is the point in asking questions if you're going to keep schtum. Everything should be out in the open, the more people that are aware of issues at the club the better, no matter how damning.

I have a secret that you want to know, but I`m not telling you...HAHA! A not B etc... I don`t understand why. Ok, I`m Norwegian, and perhaps you have other laws over there, but if someone in Norway had any relevant info that should be out, I bet it would be on our forum ASAP. I`ve been readning a lot of english newspapers, and it`s not like everything in them can be proved, is it?

Can someone please tell me why people in the know doesn`t dare to speak whatever they want?

[den]

Blackburn Rovers owners Venky's: No new Steve Kean contract yet

LT.

[booth]

The problem is that posting sensitive information on here WITHOUT proof would almost certainly lead to legal action. While I believe what I have been told because it has come from people that I trust you can't just post it without proof. I am not the only one who knows about this, there are several national journos who are actively looking into this story. I was trying to give a little bit of context to why Kean may have been given a new contract, but maybe it wasn't wise to do that.

Don't worry about it, I think after reading that report some people have got a particularly bad strain of "Imreallyannoyedandneedtoblamethefirstpersonwhoremotelybothersmeitis".

It's a virus that's common amongst football fans.

[deftangel]

Some thoughts since last night;-

Regardless of whether this contract has been signed or not, *nobody* is denying that some kind of new deal has been in the works. That's enough in itself for me.

If this contract has been in the works and doing the rounds for a while (Nicko says there was chat post Arsenal) then it's unlikely the protesting or lack of protesting has factored into the decision making here so lets just nip all that in the bud shall we?

By extension, this cannot be *purely* a "show you who's boss" move to the fans post Chelsea.

I have in the past been critical of those with inside information alluding to it, mixing it with speculation and extrapolation and so forth. However, it is not a trivial undertaking just to spill the beans. Although it's possible to do so whilst protecting oneself *and* this site, it isn't straightforward and it has to be considered whether it's in the best interests of the club at any given point. What I will say is that allusions to information which will not manifest is unhelpful to everyone and distracts the board from things that we can focus on. However, I can more than forgive Kamy for a slip, he's going to be just as frustrated as the rest of us and he's hardly got a track record for doing this every day.

On that point though, where it might have been not in the interests of the club to make things be known previously this has to be a moving target in light of their (lack of) actions. I am not seeing many viable alternatives being proposed. Is there not scope for getting the Indian media involved in some of these allegations as surely some of them would be vastly damaging to Venkys over there and perhaps there are elements of the Indian media who might ask less questions about where the information is coming from? (i.e. those in possession of it can protect themselves if taking proper precautions).

Right now it just feels like we can only sit and watch a slow motion car crash. How much more damaging is accelerating and getting it over with going to be?

[ABBEY]

What is the point in keeping things to yourself, what is the point in asking questions if you're going to keep schtum. Everything should be out in the open, the more people that are aware of issues at the club the better, no matter how damning.

even if it means going under?

[47er]

I knew you would pop up with a dig. Check back and you will see that my info is right a lot of the time. But you carry on believing that I know very little.

It's because of idiots like you that I have virtually stop posting what I know on these forums, not worth the hassle.

Bit hard on the rest of us who aren't idiots Kamy.

[martonrover]

Blackburn Rovers owners Venky's: No new Steve Kean contract yet

LT.

Key word is 'YET', probably agreed in principal.

[bestierover]

The problem is that posting sensitive information on here WITHOUT proof would almost certainly lead to legal action. While I believe what I have been told because it has come from people that I trust you can't just post it without proof. I am not the only one who knows about this, there are several national journos who are actively looking into this story. I was trying to give a little bit of context to why Kean may have been given a new contract, but maybe it wasn't wise to do that.

Truthfully Kamy, there are means to facilitate disclosure of certain matters whilst avoiding potential legal action. Are you concerned regarding potentially libelous remarks? Then take some legal advice, please don't dangle a carrot. Btw, from my experience of working within civil law, I understand that a properly worded comment would obviate any potential liability in any event, as long as you do have a source and are not just fabricating matters.