[Archived] Next protest

[JAL]

Would have thought that where ever this board meeting is in Blackburn, that you protesters would have been there on mass to voice your feelings today.

[Mattyblue]

Would have thought that where ever this board meeting is in Blackburn, that you protesters would have been there on mass to voice your feelings today.

After you JAL...

[ABBEY]

Would have thought that where ever this board meeting is in Blackburn, that you protesters would have been there on mass to voice your feelings today.

Personally can't get time off, tommorow is my day off.

[Kendalrover]

Even the media are coming out and asking why are the rovers supporters protesting at the time the team is winning.

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say 'at a time when the team has won its first game since the 17th September' because that is were the problem lies. Kean will win the odd game (particularly against the team with the worst away record who hadn't scored for 3 matches). One win does not make us a winning team.

The problem with Kean is not only his record over 35 games but what he is and what he represents.

Would have thought that where ever this board meeting is in Blackburn, that you protesters would have been there on mass to voice your feelings today.

So you know the meeting is definitely in Blackburn

[Stuart]

Well done to Darren Lewis today (never thought I'd say that). Defended the fans corner stoutly this morning on talksport up against the Oz scarecrow (Man U fan from Bolton/Essex) that is Ronnie Irani.

Irani's main argument was (as per Yak's comments), it doesn't help the teams' or player's performance and unhappy fans should simply not go to games. Lewis quite rightly pointed out the glaring irony that the team won and Yak scored four goals.

Talked a few times about "the bigger picture" too. I guess that picture was too big for poor Ronnie to get his straw head around...

# If he only had a brain #

[Mattyblue]

The goons on talksport know both sides of the story on every issue, but pursue the angle that gets fans backs up.

[Tooogs]

Yeah that soap opera of a radio station isn't a real debate show. 5live is better for proper debate. Talk sport just get the presenters to disagree about everything, Gough and Durham are the worst for it.

[brian_gallagher85]

You know things are bad when even Lewis can see it

[Stuart]

Yeah that soap opera of a radio station isn't a real debate show. 5live is better for proper debate. Talk sport just get the presenters to disagree about everything, Gough and Durham are the worst for it.

Think you're right there,Tooogs. Maybe time to switch stations.

I only listen to it when I'm in the car and that's only because of the trash that is chart music!!

Quite like the infectious H&J though.

[ABBEY]

Fat arse brazil said yesterday we only beat Swansea because of hard tackling midfield!!

[DE.]

Fat arse brazil said yesterday we only beat Swansea because of hard tackling midfield!!

yeah, I bet opposition players quiver in their boots when they see Pedersen taking to the pitch applying his hair gel...

[deftangel]

Quite happy to see some informed comment in the media from the Mirror & MOTD2 as to the protests at the game. However, a lot of Blackburn fans are going to spend as much time defending (largely uninformed jibes about) the booing of the Yak this week as they are pointing to Kean/Venky's record over the last 12 months.

For that reason, I think future protests should be directed at Venky's, not Kean and for nothing to be *organised* during the match. If it breaks out spontaneously, then fine but target the owners because if nothing else, their actions in giving him a bloody pay rise would demonstrate the best chance of getting rid of him is to get to them.

There was a lot more pressure on them post-Cardiff but not nearly as much as they should be following the ludicrous decision to give him better terms. It's about winning the war, not every battle and if that means removing reasons for the uninformed commentators to give us stick then so be it.

[Kamy100]

I said on this thread last week that I felt protesting during the game, especially if Rovers were winning/drawing was something that would cause problems, and that is exactly what has happened. I thought that last week was excellent in terms of the media starting to focus on the “real” issues in terms of the mismanagement of the club and had turned on Steve Kean, that is all down to the hard work that people like Glen has have put in. However, the events of the weekend, particularly the booing, has turned the situation on it’s head, the media who were starting to understand the issues are pretty much all having a go at Rovers fans.

They (the media) don’t really understand the just how hated Steve Kean is, they are outsiders and all they see is a bunch of fans booing when their team is winning a crucial game and will have a go at fans for doing that. Believe me Mr Rovers PR and Kean will milk this for all it’s worth, you watch how they will make Kean look like the victim of a hate mob who aren’t pleased with anything. So from starting to look at the real issues and get on Kean’s back they will now diverted away from that course.

[Torgeir]

I said on this thread last week that I felt protesting during the game, especially if Rovers were winning/drawing was something that would cause problems, and that is exactly what has happened. I thought that last week was excellent in terms of the media starting to focus on the “real” issues in terms of the mismanagement of the club and had turned on Steve Kean, that is all down to the hard work that people like Glen has have put in. However, the events of the weekend, particularly the booing, has turned the situation on it’s head, the media who were starting to understand the issues are pretty much all having a go at Rovers fans.

They (the media) don’t really understand the just how hated Steve Kean is, they are outsiders and all they see is a bunch of fans booing when their team is winning a crucial game and will have a go at fans for doing that. <b> Believe me Mr Rovers PR and Kean will milk this for all it’s worth, you watch how they will make Kean look like the victim of a hate mob who aren’t pleased with anything. So from starting to look at the real issues and get on Kean’s back they will now diverted away from that course.</b>

Proper journos will be able to separate the chaff from the wheat.

If they start dissecting Kean's autracious run of form, as well as his pre and post match comments, they will see why fans are protesting during a game. I do think the focus of attention should be Venky's and not Kean though, and we wouldn't have to put up with biased bs from c level journos as a result. Venky's will either react positively and start listening to the fans and put time and money into the club. OR they will sell us to the highest bidder. Both pretty good alternatives if you ask me. Sacking Kean won't do any good if our owners don't follow up on it.

[AggyBlue]

So from starting to look at the real issues and get on Kean's back they will now diverted away from that course.

No, it should make them investigate deeper into the reasons he still got boo'd.

Kean has burnt his bridges down Ewood with the majority of fans, he will never be accepted or supported.

[philipl]

The heat has to go onto the Venky's big time now.

[Amo]

The heat has to go onto the Venky's big time now.

Said this agesssss ago.

Protesting against Kean has only made a martyr of the man. And besides, he isn't the underlying problem. It's the charlatans running the club who have backed him and refused to do the right thing.

[Neil Weaver]

Decent article by Andy Dunn in the Mirror:

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/blogs/mirror-football-blog/Andy-Dunn-s-Big-Match-Verdict-Win-or-lose-Blackburn-fans-are-on-the-boos-wanting-Steve-Kean-out-article838516.html

However, the events of the weekend, particularly the booing, has turned the situation on it’s head, the media who were starting to understand the issues are pretty much all having a go at Rovers fans.

They (the media) don’t really understand the just how hated Steve Kean is, they are outsiders and all they see is a bunch of fans booing when their team is winning a crucial game and will have a go at fans for doing that. Believe me Mr Rovers PR and Kean will milk this for all it’s worth, you watch how they will make Kean look like the victim of a hate mob who aren’t pleased with anything. So from starting to look at the real issues and get on Kean’s back they will now diverted away from that course.

Proper journos will be able to separate the chaff from the wheat.

No, it should make them investigate deeper into the reasons he still got boo'd.

Kean has burnt his bridges down Ewood with the majority of fans, he will never be accepted or supported.

Good spot Matty, that's a good article and sums up the long-term nature of events I think.

There have been quite a few journos written over the past week or so who are mentioning events here are a result of a year of dodgy happenings rather than a month's bad results. I don't have an answer to keeping the focus there, it's almost as though Glen's efforts would benefit from some professional 'PR' weight behind them.

[deftangel]

No, it should make them investigate deeper into the reasons he still got boo'd.

Regardless of whether that's what they should do, it isn't what the vast majority of the media are doing. The protesters tactics need to adapt to the situation at hand.

We saw at Cardiff that Kean's quite capable of turning the mainstream media against him all by himself and we know from the owners prior actions, Saturday's result and games against teams almost as bad as us coming up that the prospects of getting shot of him in the immediate short term are slim.

Getting on his case during games is clearly a divisive issue with no guarantee of success. It should be sidestepped entirely by focusing 100% on Venky's during, (and perhaps before/after) the game. It's more likely to unite the fans and reduce the infighting which is counter-productive to our goals, cannot be said to be "detracting" from the team's performance and will focus the media pressure on where it needs to go, the owners.

It's far more likely they will consider shopping him in an effort to appease us as a result of them feeling the pressure as opposed to Kean acting largely as the buffer from it all. He's shown an annoying ability to soak it up like a sponge and give a bit back when feeling emboldened which isn't helping anyone's mood.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

The media haven't turned on the protestors, they've turned on the spontaneous decision of some fans to boo Yakubu because he celebrated with Kean. Which to be fair was going a step too far and isn't something I can understand. We've just scored a wonder goal to go 1-0 up, who cares what Yakubu's up to? The old fashioned thing to do to celebrate a goal was to jump around like a madman and hug the people next to you, I'll bet thats what most of the fans around where I am near the back of the DE were doing. To just stand there watching Yakubu and immediately booing him really is pathetic. And I wouldn't be surprised if its the same type of fans who give people like Roberts, Dunn and Pedersen stick all the time. I doubt Glenn approved of it so I don't think the organised protestors should get the blame.

[glen9mullan]

The media haven't turned on the protestors, they've turned on the spontaneous decision of some fans to boo Yakubu because he celebrated with Kean. Which to be fair was going a step too far and isn't something I can understand. We've just scored a wonder goal to go 1-0 up, who cares what Yakubu's up to? The old fashioned thing to do to celebrate a goal was to jump around like a madman and hug the people next to you, I'll bet thats what most of the fans around where I am near the back of the DE were doing. To just stand there watching Yakubu and immediately booing him really is pathetic. And I wouldn't be surprised if its the same type of fans who give people like Roberts, Dunn and Pedersen stick all the time. I doubt Glenn approved of it so I don't think the organised protestors should get the blame.

Absolutely correctly in fact I watched the second half from the concourse with a group of people who had been protesting as I felt very uncomfortable with those boo's. I have never boo'd a player and aint gonna start now, I was also disappointed with the abuse Roberts got after the match. Come match day, I go and enjoy the games, things which are organised are already in place, I dnt actively tell people on match days what they should or should not do, i just got he game and conduct myself the right way and stick to what I said I would do,

Anyone who knows me will know I sing my head off for 90 minutes trying to get three points, that will never change.

[AggyBlue]

The media haven't turned on the protestors, they've turned on the spontaneous decision of some fans to boo Yakubu because he celebrated with Kean. Which to be fair was going a step too far and isn't something I can understand. We've just scored a wonder goal to go 1-0 up, who cares what Yakubu's up to? The old fashioned thing to do to celebrate a goal was to jump around like a madman and hug the people next to you, I'll bet thats what most of the fans around where I am near the back of the DE were doing. To just stand there watching Yakubu and immediately booing him really is pathetic. And I wouldn't be surprised if its the same type of fans who give people like Roberts, Dunn and Pedersen stick all the time. I doubt Glenn approved of it so I don't think the organised protestors should get the blame.

Are you for real?

[AndyNeil]

Absolutely correctly in fact I watched the second half from the concourse with a group of people who had been protesting as I felt very uncomfortable with those boo's. I have never boo'd a player and aint gonna start now, I was also disappointed with the abuse Roberts got after the match. Come match day, I go and enjoy the games, things which are organised are already in place, I dnt actively tell people on match days what they should or should not do, i just got he game and conduct myself the right way and stick to what I said I would do,

Anyone who knows me will know I sing my head off for 90 minutes trying to get three points, that will never change.

Apart from when you are watching the second half on the concourse...

[Mattyblue]

Yakubu wasn't booed!!!!! The bloke Is the best finisher we've had down there in years.

SKHToad you are certainly a poster I didn't expect to be reading that from!

[glen9mullan]

Apart from when you are watching the second half on the concourse...

Was still singing though and enjoying match