[Archived] Next protest

[riggers77]

Oh I realise that. I just cannot understand somebody encouraging people to protest whilst winning a match. These days at Rovers, if they are winning and end up winning, I'll have a damn party, not a protest.

I'm starting to think you are a kean sympathiser. I'm loving celebrating theses wins we are getting once every 12 games...not. The best protest is a mass boycott. Failing that chanting and banners all throughout the game staying in the concourse anything that causes disruption is the next best thing. If 11 grown men on a footy pitch can't deal with that happening around them then they shouldn't be being paid what they are.

[J*B]

Sack the T-Shirts, they'll be crap, just like the balloons where.

Heres my idea.

[Bluefudge]

In these days of 24 hour media we has to go to them.

They are slowly gaining an understanding of the situation at Rovers, and this message needs to be hammered home.

It is one hell of a juicy story for all the media outlets. At the moment most think we are a moaning set of very fickle fans. What needs to be put across in a more articulate manner is the plight of our club and the direness of the situation.

Broad sheet and more upmarket radio and TV broadcasts need to follow are story. The viewpoint of this could be your club next needs to be put out there.

[AJW]

Regardless of the score line - even winning, do me a favour.

If you start doing that and it disrupts the performance of the team. As far as I am concerned you can then shove your protest as far up your rectum as it will go. To protest even if the team is winning, is nothing but counter productive.

You want to protest when the team are winning. We need to stay in the prem - to do so we need to win matches. Supporters need to do what the owners and manager are not doing, help this team, this club stay in the prem.

Most of us want the owners and Kean out. But we also want to stay in the prem. Protest against the owners and Kean as much as you want - but not the players, get behind the players. Because we need them to win matches to stay in the prem, for the sake of the club as well as Blackburn as a town.

People are now being encouraged to protest during a match even if Rovers are winning. Total madness now.

I think your right. First and foremost when you go to a match you want your team to win.

Pafell

i do agree with your sentiments ,and you're right , protesting when the team is winning could be seen as counter-productive , however in only protesting when we're losing or not winning we could be seen as fair-weather protesters , win lose or draw the green and gold campaign at utd was there, it was visual ,and you knew why and what it meant, we need to do the same

[glen9mullan]

Regardless of the score line - even winning, do me a favour.

If you start doing that and it disrupts the performance of the team. As far as I am concerned you can then shove your protest as far up your rectum as it will go. To protest even if the team is winning, is nothing but counter productive.

You want to protest when the team are winning. We need to stay in the prem - to do so we need to win matches. Supporters need to do what the owners and manager are not doing, help this team, this club stay in the prem.

Most of us want the owners and Kean out. But we also want to stay in the prem. Protest against the owners and Kean as much as you want - but not the players, get behind the players. Because we need them to win matches to stay in the prem, for the sake of the club as well as Blackburn as a town.

People are now being encouraged to protest during a match even if Rovers are winning. Total madness now.

I think your right. First and foremost when you go to a match you want your team to win.

Will you be at the game??? How many have you attended so far??? If you have been going all the games all season and witnessing what the over 17000 fans have then fair enough.

One result does not change our position, throughout this Kean's tenure all I have heard from certain sections of our supporters is, give him more time, dnt protest during games, then the pro kean brigade at the weekend said "Blame should be aimed at the players". Well I'm sorry if it does not fit in with your criteria, but SK and Venkys have destroyed our club, and I aint waiting til they buggar off home to vent my fury, and nor is the other supporters who have vented their anger for over 2 and half months.

If you dnt wish to take part or you aint going the game I respect your opinion, but I for one aint fickle, and can see the bigger picture as others have for months.

Supporters vented their fury throughout the game at the weekend not just when we was losing but also when we was drawing. This Manager can not be allowed to see out the remainder of these 5 fixtures were points are do-able.

I can't remember anyone being as hated as him as an employee of Rovers.

People can do their own things, with whatever sits right with them, but I for one will be doing what I want, when I want and how I want.

I'm sick of hearing people say boycott from 300 miles away, I go to our games and boycott will never be something I would ever do, its easy for people to say that when they dont attend games, its also easy for people to chuck idea's forward and slate others when they don't attend games. I'm all for listening to idea's but with every idea comes people either against it, or the one throwing the idea not wanting to help put it into action.

If you have an idea then i'm all ears but please take it upon yourself to exercise it, violence in the stands is one thing none of us want to see. We all go to the game to cheer on a victory, however the way things are going even that may be taken away from us, unless some one at Rovers gets a grip of the situation.

Some supporters dnt protest will never protest and dnt say much about the ones that do, I respect their opinion and rights to not take part. Then there is us that have been protesting will continue to protest and will do all we can to force this clubs hand, it may not work, it may not impact, but I don't care, i'm not going hiding and accepting what will be , will be, and one win be it against Stoke or Against Swansea, is not going to quickly fix the issues at Rovers

[alexanders]

I still Think hitting them at their Home turf is what should be done. What happened to buying a page with : thanks for murdering our football club. Venkysout in India times ?

[glen9mullan]

I still Think hitting them at their Home turf is what should be done. What happened to buying a page with : thanks for murdering our football club. Venkysout in India times ?

We had a quote come back and it was £3400 pounds, I had been told it was just a couple of hundred but fainted when I saw that

[alexanders]

Thats expensive!!

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

then the pro kean brigade at the weekend said "Blame should be aimed at the players".

That is absolute b***ocks - anyone with half a brain can see that the tactics are having a direct impact on player performances.

Wigan was a prime example - and unfortunately showed that many of the deficiences that I thought Clement had addressed had resurfaced.

For me it shows most in defence :-

1. How many times do you see the players challenging for the same ball - sure sign of lack of organisation

2. Salgado may be slow - but it is lack of cover from midfield that hurts him most.

3. Our centre backs are constantly exposed to runners from midfield - with nobody tracking back. I am sorry - but even the best central defenders struggle in this situation.

I was prepared to give Kean the Wigan game - we had a run of difficult home fixtures in which we did quite well without getting the points our performances deserved. But Wigan was like going back in time - funnily enough to the last Wigan away match - with all the same tactical problems. The guys doesn't appear to learn.

There is one chant that I think the protesters should adopt as the "anti-venky's" chant - for me it is a chant of unity, that goes back to an era where we had a genuine owner of passion and commitment. For me this chant sung frequently shows the owners that they will never gain that allegiance without addressing all the concerns around the club.

"One Jack Walker - there's only one Jack Walker" - has a ring to it.

Lets get the unity back in the fans - behind our greatest ever fan - his legacy deserves so much more.

[St_Jimmy_77]

And I thought the plane was expensive "/

[matt83]

I know its difficult with people having season tickets but maybe could somehow get everyone in jack walker lower tier bburn end side and give Kean a biblical amount of abuse for 90 mins.

My thinking is these protests may never actually have the desired impact of getting him sacked esp with the Venkys being mental and if hypothetically he stays indefinitely (which looks like he will) we could at least make his life hell.

Who cares if people in media or anybody else thinks he’s being picked on lets just make every second of his life in Ewood park a nightmare. If loads went in the JW lower tier and stood next to dugout abusing him even if moved on by police as soon as they leave go back and start again.

[alexanders]

What about cooperating with PETA ? They sent jW a letter and urged Rovers not to sell to venkys before the takeover,

[glen9mullan]

That is absolute b***ocks - anyone with half a brain can see that the tactics are having a direct impact on player performances.

Wigan was a prime example - and unfortunately showed that many of the deficiences that I thought Clement had addressed had resurfaced.

For me it shows most in defence :-

1. How many times do you see the players challenging for the same ball - sure sign of lack of organisation

2. Salgado may be slow - but it is lack of cover from midfield that hurts him most.

3. Our centre backs are constantly exposed to runners from midfield - with nobody tracking back. I am sorry - but even the best central defenders struggle in this situation.

I was prepared to give Kean the Wigan game - we had a run of difficult home fixtures in which we did quite well without getting the points our performances deserved. But Wigan was like going back in time - funnily enough to the last Wigan away match - with all the same tactical problems. The guys doesn't appear to learn.

There is one chant that I think the protesters should adopt as the "anti-venky's" chant - for me it is a chant of unity, that goes back to an era where we had a genuine owner of passion and commitment. For me this chant sung frequently shows the owners that they will never gain that allegiance without addressing all the concerns around the club.

"One Jack Walker - there's only one Jack Walker" - has a ring to it.

Lets get the unity back in the fans - behind our greatest ever fan - his legacy deserves so much more.

Great Post and totally agree

[roverssex]

We had a quote come back and it was £3400 pounds, I had been told it was just a couple of hundred but fainted when I saw that

what about using other sporting events a bill board at a cricket match in india somting like that?

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Great Post and totally agree

Glen - then why not change the focus of the protests ?

Encourage repeated support of Jack - as a deliberate way of gesture towards our current owners.

Rather that Venky's out t-shirts - why not "Jack says" t-shirts

e.g. Jack says not Kean on this chicken (poor I know).

I am sure somebody far imaginative than me could come up with a few more Jack related chants.

[rovers11]

We had a quote come back and it was £3400 pounds, I had been told it was just a couple of hundred but fainted when I saw that

With the anger currently being felt, I think that amount could be raised

[PAFELL]

I'm starting to think you are a kean sympathiser. I'm loving celebrating theses wins we are getting once every 12 games...not. The best protest is a mass boycott. Failing that chanting and banners all throughout the game staying in the concourse anything that causes disruption is the next best thing. If 11 grown men on a footy pitch can't deal with that happening around them then they shouldn't be being paid what they are.

I have never in favour of Kean. I wanted him out a long time ago. I was told for months on here and via PM that I was negative etc etc. My position on Kean has not changed.

[Baz]

During the game I'd honestly say organise nothing, apart from trying to get some anti-Kean / anti-Venky songs going. How about "stand up if you want Kean out", or turning this 'its only a minority' joke on its head - "stand up if you support Steve Kean"? The anti-protest but anti-Kean lot will have no reason to not join in and will be organic.

Scarves - good idea - will take a few weeks to really get going though.

How about some petition books / online petition for supporters to sign too? I'd avoid the government route - we aint gonna get 100k to sign, but a petition with tens of thousands of fans would make a good media statement.

Letters to newspapers in India.

Open letter / advertisement in LET asking Venkys to come and speak to fans directly at Ewood.

[alexanders]

Havent the owners also said that this only 1 Jack walker song hurts them !

[Stuart]

Have to worry about posts like Pafell's.

"Only protest if we are losing - otherwise you're not supporting the team"

At which point it becomes:

"You only protest when we're losing - you're fickle"

How the hell did we end up in this mess?

[glen9mullan]

Glen - then why not change the focus of the protests ?

Encourage repeated support of Jack - as a deliberate way of gesture towards our current owners.

Rather that Venky's out t-shirts - why not "Jack says" t-shirts

e.g. Jack says not Kean on this chicken (poor I know).

I am sure somebody far imaginative than me could come up with a few more Jack related chants.

Well to be fair everyone sings one jack walker anyway and have always done, I do like the idea of "Jack say" but as some of pointed out people from india don't do humour like us and they will totally see the message go over their heads.

We was trying to get some prices on mobile billboards, but dunno were thats upto.

Old fashioned chanting tends to do the trick, if history is anything to go by. This week the shutters have been brought down and even my unofficial channels don't have a clue whats going on, whilst an official email saying they will call me tomorrow is the first official contact in 3 weeks.

I'm like everyone else, pulling my hair out and not knowing whats for the best. Gonna spend rest of my evening watching some footie, Rovers will be here tomorrow

[thenodrog]

Horses mouth time. Chance conversation today with someone of significance. Sorry but no names no pack drill..... Told lots of stuff about Venkeys, Kean, the departures and both Andersons but that is of little or no consequence to this thread.

Confirmed that the best way to persuade them that BRFC is not the place for them is for supporter action to intensify to new levels. They were genuinely shocked on Saturday at Wigan on the supporters actions as they had no idea of the depth of feeling against them.

So to all the organisers forget Kean and concentrate on the Venkeys. Plan carefully and steadfastly and select actions that will have most impact on the owners. And to all ditherers ands apologists ... grow some.

[Glenn]

We had a quote come back and it was £3400 pounds, I had been told it was just a couple of hundred but fainted when I saw that

Is that India wide.? Somebody contacted me a while ago about doing it (I think they thought BRFCS would pay) and they were looking at about £1200, but that was only for the Pune edition.

What about cooperating with PETA ?

I'd rather side with Steve Kean than them. Absolute nutters.

[Stuart]

Glen - then why not change the focus of the protests ?

Encourage repeated support of Jack - as a deliberate way of gesture towards our current owners.

Rather that Venky's out t-shirts - why not "Jack says" t-shirts

e.g. Jack says not Kean on this chicken (poor I know).

I am sure somebody far imaginative than me could come up with a few more Jack related chants.

I can see where you are coming from but there will be fans out there who won't like Jack's name being banded about in this way and I can see it being used as a stick to beat Glen with. Jeez, some people thought laying flowers at Jack's statue was in bad taste, let alone T-Shirts.

Trouble is, too many fans are all too happy to shoot each other down but will not unite against the causes of the situation we are in. It's so depressing.

Now, sustained chanting of Jack's name on the terraces would be good but our bloody owners are never there to hear it!

[Glenn]

Horses mouth time. Chance conversation today with someone of significance. Sorry but no names no pack drill..... Told lots of stuff about Venkeys, Kean and both Andersons but that is of little or no consequence to this thread.

Confirmed that the best way to persuade them that BRFC is not the place for them is for supporter action to intensify to new levels. They were genuinely shocked on Saturday at Wigan on the supporters actions as they had no idea of the depth of feeling against them.

So to all the organisers forget Kean and concentrate on the Venkeys. Plan carefully and steadfastly and select actions that will have most impact on the owners. And to all ditherers ands apologists ... grow some.

So, the question to ask, is who at the club has managed to cover up and explain away some quite monumental efforts to get across how the fans feel, if it took seeing it with their own eyes to believe it! That's quite an impressive cover up.