[Archived] Next protest

[Mattyblue]

Bang on rigger.

I would prefer if I never saw or heard from those idiots again, they should

sign the checks and keep their beak out.

Alas, with Balaji's ego and the need to flog reconstituted chicken bits that ain't gonna happen.

[Mike Graham]

Constructive debate (aka Pune 9) has been past. He will not listen, just give him 2 verbal barrels: "you are hated - get out of OUR club fast.". He will not understand any other language.

[ABBEY]

A swift butt on his nose.

[MarkBRFC71]

Back page of today's Telegraph: "Protests Postponed: Organisers look for better dialogue with Rovers owners". Talk is cheap - and it won't stop us being relegated.

The only dialogue I want is them telling me Steve Kean has been relieved of his duties as Rovers manager. Unless that happens, we WILL be in the Championship next season. Short term aim should undoubtedly be the removal of Kean - sod the owners. Longer term, the "better dialogue", or the removal of Venky's - whichever is best for the club.

The protests should be upped, not postponed.

[Mattyblue]

'Better dialogue', what a load of tosh.

What is this 'dialogue' going to achieve if they refuse to remove the maanger and don't put any cash in?

Great PR win for Kean, 'yeah those few that were unhappy have said they are getting behind what we are trying to do'.

[ABBEY]

Can't rep on my phone but defo would!!

Protests to stop ??? WHY ? Cos the venkys said ?

I will be ranting Saturday even more now!!!

[Mike Graham]

Back page of today's Telegraph: "Protests Postponed: Organisers look for better dialogue with Rovers owners". Talk is cheap - and it won't stop us being relegated.

The only dialogue I want is them telling me Steve Kean has been relieved of his duties as Rovers manager. Unless that happens, we WILL be in the Championship next season. Short term aim should undoubtedly be the removal of Kean - sod the owners. Longer term, the "better dialogue", or the removal of Venky's - whichever is best for the club.

The protests should being upped, not stopped.

The protests will not stop. They will become uncontrolled. Maybe this is for the best?

[Brad]

I think Kean is on a knife edge!!!

[Rovers_786]

I think Kean is on a knife edge!!!

I fully agree there.

[Rover_Shaun]

I think Kean is on a knife edge!!!

Right by his jugular

[Mc Love]

Also don't think the protests should stop. Keep the pressure on, by stopping we are conceding defeat

[glen9mullan]

The protests will not stop. They will become uncontrolled. Maybe this is for the best?

As Preston Blue has correctly stated, all that has been done is organised protest have been halted for the next 2 home games, what happens spontaneous happens

[Rover_Shaun]

Not a single mention of the fans protesting about Keans abysmal record and incompetence in todays LET 'protest truce' article......very poor indeed.

Kean is my MAJOR gripe. Everything else is just fluff compared to getting this man OUT in order to have any chance of staying in this league.

Communication with the club whilst in the Championship or Premierleague status?

You decide

[eire3382]

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As Preston Blue has correctly stated, all that has been done is organised protest have been halted for the next 2 home games, what happens spontaneous happens

Glen in any meeting with kean the point must be made that very very few fans have any faith in his ability and distrust him completely.

I realise you must use tact to avoid a situation where he can turn what you say against you. But the majority of the fan base would be behind such a statement to him. Alot of his arrogance I believe is he actually believes his crap. He needs some reality checks.

[oreilly]

i think the message has to be drilled home still that the supporters don't want him but want to support the team.

that needs to be emphasised.

at the end of the day we wouldnt give a toss about the upper echelons in the clubs and the owners being in India if this team was mid table!!

[DE.]

Any "dialogue" with the owners can be managed in a single sentence: Start running the club properly, stop talking sh1t every week, and sack Steve Kean.

If they're unwilling to do any of those three then talking is worthless.

[jannerman]

As Preston Blue has correctly stated, all that has been done is organised protest have been halted for the next 2 home games, what happens spontaneous happens

What was the point/aim of the protests in the first place Glen?

[RibbleValleyRover]

The LT Article:

Blackburn Rovers protests to be postponed

I can imagine Kean telling Mrs D that this is clear proof that he has won the fans over. Let's face it the owners won't read the article but instead go off what Kean reports to them.

Also why was there an apology to Jason Roberts?

[Mattyblue]

When was the aim of these organised protests about trying to 'open up means of communication'?

When I marched and sat in, it was about the removal of Steve Kean and/or Venky's. The anger I saw on people's faces, the banners I read didn't seem to have 'greater dialogue' as a priority.

To me glen, it's all give on your side and all take on 'the club's', whatever 'the club' is these days.

[jannerman]

When was the aim of these organised protests about trying to 'open up means of communication'?

When I marched and sat in, it was about the removal of Steve Kean and/or Venky's. The anger I saw on people's faces, the banners I read didn't seem to have 'greater dialogue' as a priority.

To me glen, it's all give on your side and all take on 'the club's', whatever 'the club' is these days.

If the aim has not been achieved, anything other than continued pressure will give the appearance of having yielded for some reason.

Consider what the owners/club have done and said, Pune visit, previous allusions to meetings, press releases that never came, banning what is effectively supporter free speech, and so on.

And now? An agreement from the protesters that an amnesty of two games will be given in return for formal talks?

In my very humble opinion this is a bollock well and truly dropped

[glen9mullan]

When was the aim of these organised protests about trying to 'open up means of communication'?

When I marched and sat in, it was about the removal of Steve Kean and/or Venky's. The anger I saw on people's faces, the banners I read didn't seem to have 'greater dialogue' as a priority.

To me glen, it's all give on your side and all take on 'the club's', whatever 'the club' is these days.

The aim of the protest is to have

1.Kean removed

2.Fight for the long term future of the club, without asking questions we aint gonna get answers. If we had refused the dialogue then the PR from the club would of been "We have tried to speak to our supporters but they have refused, they just want to cause trouble and are handicapping the teams ability to stay up"

I think people are reading far too much into this all we are doing is taking away "ORGANISED ELEMENT" This is something many on here have been calling for, This does not halt any protest but allows each and every fan to do as they wish

[RibbleValleyRover]

The aim of the protest is to have

1.Kean removed

2.Fight for the long term future of the club, without asking questions we aint gonna get answers. If we had refused the dialogue then the PR from the club would of been "We have tried to speak to our supporters but they have refused, they just want to cause trouble and are handicapping the teams ability to stay up"

I think people are reading far too much into this all we are doing is taking away "ORGANISED ELEMENT" This is something many on here have been calling for, This does not halt any protest but allows each and every fan to do as they wish

Problem is Glen that aim two can't be achieved without aim one being achieved.

Even if Venky's decide to sort out the communication levels at the club by either being present more and communicating directly with the fans or employing a chairman to convey the thoughts and plans of the owners, if Rovers are relegated it doesn’t matter what they have to say.

In this present age and the way football finances are if Rovers get relegated then that's the club finished.

[Mattyblue]

Problem is glen, there are two aspects to the club-

1) the staff at Ewood- these days they have no clout, a JW is no longer present. What on earth is John Newsham going to do about any issue?

2) The owners, as the Pune 9 found out, they will listen and nod politely all day long, but will never take constructive criticism from the likes of us.

Most fans would be happy to never hear another word uttered from the owners. Stay in India and leave the club's running to those that have a clue.

WE want-

a) Kean removed

A professional set up off the pitch- that have actual power.

c) Them to put some money in.

[glen9mullan]

Problem is Glen that aim two can't be achieved without aim one being achieved.

Even if Venky's decide to sort out the communication levels at the club by either being present more and communicating directly with the fans or employing a chairman to convey the thoughts and plans of the owners, if Rovers are relegated it doesn't matter what they have to say.

In this present age and the way football finances are if Rovers get relegated then that's the club finished.

I 100% agree , Steve Kean has to go, and no doubt come Saturday that message will once again be delievered, It does not take people to organise something for that message to be deleivered, that can take a natural direction for the next couple of games

[jannerman]

The aim of the protest is to have

1.Kean removed

2.Fight for the long term future of the club, without asking questions we aint gonna get answers. If we had refused the dialogue then the PR from the club would of been "We have tried to speak to our supporters but they have refused, they just want to cause trouble and are handicapping the teams ability to stay up"

I think people are reading far too much into this all we are doing is taking away "ORGANISED ELEMENT" This is something many on here have been calling for, This does not halt any protest but allows each and every fan to do as they wish

I understand the reasons behind the decisions, but looking at the way certain moves have been depicted and sound bites extracted via the media this is only going to be spun one way. If Rovers win it will be used to enforce the fact that Kean has won over the fans, if they lose the same thing is likely but will just bemoan performance, or luck, etc....and there's absolutely no reason to suspect he will be removed - we just have to hope that reaction-driven protests will have an effect.

And surely any spontaneous protests will just be spun as the Organised protesters going back on their word?

You may or may not accept this Glen, but you are now a "player" in all of this, even if that wasn't your intention, and possibly more so now then the Pune 9. And if there's one thing we've seen of late it's that the media and sections of the fans are exceptionally fickle and have memories that'd embarrass a goldfish.

The cold hard facts are that Kean has now managed the team for more or less the equivalent of a season, the points accrued during that time would not have kept us up. If the owners are truly concerned about their investment you would have thought that the results would have been questioned - but it seems they are blind to the big picture.

Relegation would be a disaster, less so if it was apparent that the club has the resources to bounce back up, but there is nothing to show that infrastructure exists at the moment.

I think a lot of stuff is going on behind the scenes, and the rest of us mere mortals have a right to be nervous, as there's very little positivity at the moment about the situation is there?

Just one thing, am I right in thinking that the trade off for the postponement of the protests is to have a meeting with the club and with Kean?

If so are there time-scales for these events? Agendas? Topics for discussion? Etc? Will they be minuted and available for the rest of us to see?