braddock Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 Wilcox (unlike Pedersen) had the mental strength to get beyond the calls of derision from the 'experts' in the Riverside. As did good old Super Atko, who got it from every angle. Unlike Keef he never skulked off to Ipswich on loan. He now polishes his championship medal every night. If all that was true, is it therefore in the best interests of the club to continue the hostility when you are aware of the negativity it creates?
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Amo Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 But it doesn't appear that he will be sacked by us, so why waste your energies on that? I'm not, but I totally sympathize with protesters and boycotters. I respect those who make a stand instead of those who bury their heads in the sand and deflect the blame to their fellow supporters Do you know what it is like to perform your job in hostile atmospheres. When Andrews was being booed he performed worse than when he wasn't and the team as a whole seemed to do too. They look shackled whenever they are playing at home. Nobody wants to be the one to lose the ball and face the wrath of the morons. That could be because Andrews & Kean both proved they are not good enough for this level. Any response from the crowd is after the fact. Well that isn't true is it? 7 wins in 40 league games says that's true, actually.
Rover_Shaun Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 The team has been backed 110%. I know players are thick but surely even they can deduce that Kean Out is not directed at them. And if they had any pride they would tell the imposter that 8 out of 40 is not good enough even at schoolboy level
braddock Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 7 wins in 40 league games says that's true, actually. 3 points from safety half way through a season does not say that relegation is FACT and there is no way you can say it does. I'm not saying all is rosy but for some reason you are saying all is doomed.
braddock Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 The team has been backed 110%. I know players are thick but surely even they can deduce that Kean Out is not directed at them. And if they had any pride they would tell the imposter that 8 out of 40 is not good enough even at schoolboy level They have not been. Andrews booed, hostility at any possible point whenever things don't quite go their way. Songs are strategic, either singing Jack Walker (hijacking the name of a dead man is far from classy when not sung in celebration of him but used as a protest song), Salgado, anti Kean songs or Barmy Army. It is rare to hear full gusto behind a proper pro Rovers song. We will not beat 25 points under K**n I am willing to place a wager with the board as my witness that we will. £50. Is there anyway we can set up some kind of paypal thing with an admin of the board who can keep the money in the meantime?
Amo Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 3 points from safety half way through a season does not say that relegation is FACT and there is no way you can say it does. I'm not saying all is rosy but for some reason you are saying all is doomed. Apart from every team bottom at Christmas being relegated, aside from one fluke six years ago, and Kean's terrible points average. No, you're right. Relegation? Pah!
47er Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 They have not been. Andrews booed, hostility at any possible point whenever things don't quite go their way. Songs are strategic, either singing Jack Walker (hijacking the name of a dead man is far from classy when not sung in celebration of him but used as a protest song), Salgado, anti Kean songs or Barmy Army. It is rare to hear full gusto behind a proper pro Rovers song. I am willing to place a wager with the board as my witness that we will. £50. Is there anyway we can set up some kind of paypal thing with an admin of the board who can keep the money in the meantime? Andrews was last season-------wake up! Can't think of another example?
braddock Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 Andrews was last season-------wake up! Can't think of another example? OK, Roberts being booed on.
Doug Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 Andrews was last season-------wake up! Can't think of another example? Roberts, Dunn spring readily to mind!
ChrisyG Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 It's no different at Rovers than it would be at any other ground, given our circumstances. United are 1st/2nd in the league and got booed off.
Elvis McSmithy Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 I'm hanging on to the believe that the only reason Kean's still here is because theres no money available to pay Kean off and bring in a new manager(which would prob cost an equal amount of money!)right now, hoping once a few fringe players have been moved on it will loosen up the purse strings a little and he will be removed,(thats how I'm reading things anyway). p.sI'm im usually way of the mark with my reading of things though :!:
47er Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 OK, Roberts being booed on. I see! You are giving examples of individuals being booed on one or more specific occasions and claiming that is identical to a game-long campaign of booing such as we saw against Bolton. It isn't! There was a reason for Roberts getting a hot reception besides his usual crap performances! He had shouted down Rovers callers to 606 and has been one of the most vocal supporters of Kean/Venkys. Until they ratted on him of course---"contractual matters" !! Booing of individual players has been part and parcel of following Rovers for decades and most clubs I'm sure. I can remember it happening to Peter Dobing,Ally MacCleod, John Connelly, John Coddington and even Jason Wilcox! The only really sustained campaign I've seen in recent years is against Andrews and that started in Sam's era. Now to the point------there has been no hostile campaign against the team at all--------none! It has been aimed solely at Kean and Venkys. We can support the team whole-heartedly (and we do) but can express our loathing for the manager and the owners. And we do and I hope we continue to do till they've gone. The idea that a "true supporter" is one with tunnel vision, who is simply there to roar on his/her team whilst ignoring every other factor which affects his team is just bizarre. That sort of supporter is truly intellectually challenged. Thankfully their numbers are reducing but they pop up every now and again when we win!
CAPT KAYOS Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 Thankfully their numbers are reducing but they pop up every now and again when we win! Excellent post 47er ... Hits the nail on the head here
roversmum Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 At least they are sticking it out rather than the so-called fans who threaten to/hand back their season tickets.
daveoftherovers Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 At least they are sticking it out rather than the so-called fans who threaten to/hand back their season tickets. Too true Mum, the French approach, easy way out IMHO, especially when the team need them now more than ever, and after the last 2 games they deserve our support, I implore them, as a fellow supporter, to come back and help us escape oblivion, it is possible, history is exactly that, the past, and means nothing, if we get a win today, we have a decent chance of avoiding the trap door.
47er Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 Too true Mum, the French approach, easy way out IMHO, especially when the team need them now more than ever, and after the last 2 games they deserve our support, I implore them, as a fellow supporter, to come back and help us escape oblivion, it is possible, history is exactly that, the past, and means nothing, if we get a win today, we have a decent chance of avoiding the trap door. Since you are on "ifs"--------if we sell Samba,Hoilett, N'Zonzi or even just Samba in the next week or two, today's result will be utterly irrelevant. Can't you see ---the main action isn't on the field (thanks to Venkys)?
den Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 if we get a win today, we have a decent chance of avoiding the trap door. Why? Just wondering.
gumboots Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 Why? Just wondering. Well i suppose we ahve potentially a better chance than if we don't win today.
booth Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 They've obviously always been imbeciles but they've never had the opportunity to show it off like they have now. I was perhaps a little more blind to it when I was younger, believing I supported a team whose supporters main priority was the well being of their club. Like it or not safety is the most important thing right now and the fans in general have not gone the right way in preserving our Premiership survival. We can't make a difference of 10 points a season, but you aren't telling me they can't lift the players in any way to gain a few here and there, when compared to the obvious detrimental effects the flip side of the coin can create. So you believe the majority of the fanbase of BRFC are imbeciles, morons and have never had the opportunity to "show it off." How long have you been a Rovers fan for then? Not long I'd imagine if you think the fans have never had the opportunity to show off their discontent. I think up till recently they've been remarkably calm about the situation. I have no reason to doubt that you are the real deal though Braddock, what with you having an avatar of the person who has systematically taken the club apart within twelve months. It's nice to see you standing together with the most fervent of Burnley fans to support Venky's in their endeavors. If only more were like you I'm aware of that but I don't care about others opinions of me. I do care about my club though. No you don't. By having that avatar you're taking a big fat dump on the club's name from a great height. At least they are sticking it out rather than the so-called fans who threaten to/hand back their season tickets. I don't agree with that either, but I wouldn't be too quick to call them "so-called fans" some of it is just heat of the moment stuff. You must admit that some of the behavior by the clubs owners could make a saint burn his season ticket.
Backroom DE. Posted January 2, 2012 Backroom Posted January 2, 2012 I see! You are giving examples of individuals being booed on one or more specific occasions and claiming that is identical to a game-long campaign of booing such as we saw against Bolton. It isn't! There was a reason for Roberts getting a hot reception besides his usual crap performances! He had shouted down Rovers callers to 606 and has been one of the most vocal supporters of Kean/Venkys. Until they ratted on him of course---"contractual matters" !! Booing of individual players has been part and parcel of following Rovers for decades and most clubs I'm sure. I can remember it happening to Peter Dobing,Ally MacCleod, John Connelly, John Coddington and even Jason Wilcox! The only really sustained campaign I've seen in recent years is against Andrews and that started in Sam's era. Now to the point------there has been no hostile campaign against the team at all--------none! It has been aimed solely at Kean and Venkys. We can support the team whole-heartedly (and we do) but can express our loathing for the manager and the owners. And we do and I hope we continue to do till they've gone. The idea that a "true supporter" is one with tunnel vision, who is simply there to roar on his/her team whilst ignoring every other factor which affects his team is just bizarre. That sort of supporter is truly intellectually challenged. Thankfully their numbers are reducing but they pop up every now and again when we win! Good post, fully agree, especially with the last paragraph. If a "true" supporter is somebody who blindly goes to the match cheering the manager and team on regardless of what is going on elsewhere in the club, totally ignoring the rank bad management and horrific overall record of the owners and manager then I wouldn't want to be a "true" supporter. It sounds like being a citizen of North Korea.
Al Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 But Rovers fans are idiots, generally speaking. This board being the hub of a great deal of them. But you of course are a far superior being. I'm surprised that you condescend to post on here for we mere mortals to make comments upon.
den Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 Well i suppose we ahve potentially a better chance than if we don't win today. Yeah, I was splitting hairs there I guess. Anyway, for what it's worth, even if we win today I think at the very best this will go to the last game of the season. I just don't see enough wins - or run of results - that's going to launch us clear before then.
gumboots Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 Yeah, I was splitting hairs there I guess. Anyway, for what it's worth, even if we win today I think at the very best this will go to the last game of the season. I just don't see enough wins - or run of results - that's going to launch us clear before then. Oh I agree that we are probably down whatever happens particularly if our worst nightmares come true in the next month. However, we have seen unlikely things happen and so we should still be hoping that we win every game, even if we know the difference between hope and the reality of expectations. I don't ever expect a win at the moment, which makes every one we get taste sweeter. I watched the Man Utd match in the exchange bar and grill near old trafford, full of united fans and my family (including a Burnley fan who also cheered when we scored) and it was wonderful.
booth Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 Team fully supported today, no protests or Kean Out chants. Imbecile and morons nowhere to be seen. So why are we 2-0 down Braddock?
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