[Archived] Next protest

[47er]

Jackson, grow a pair lad. Im not supporting Venkys/ Kean or anyone concerned with them, im talking about the protests.

Support the team 100% during games (Like United, like Liverpool away), protest outside the ground AFTER the game......Not before and not during.

All these planned protests etc should be aimed at Venkys if you want to hurt them. To do that you need to do it India, whether its by a fly over at a big cricket match, or a billboard in Pune. Doing it here is getting nowhere and is simply causing tension amongst fans.

Some say they wont be getting tickets next year if they are still here and Kean is in charge, well im afraid the protestors are also having that impact on some fans too.

So some fans won't renew next year because of the protest? Are you friggin joking? They'll put up with losing every week but can't stand the protestors?

[Amo]

Haha. Can you imagine if the protests start up again:

"Those Blackburn fans never protested after they beat United. One defeat later and they're back at it. Bloomin' ingrates, Jeff."

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

One question - are the protests actually doing Venky's work for them ? The protests are increasing the media profile of the club - and putting the Venky brand firmly on the map. Going on the theory that there is no such thing as bad publicity - they are gaining brand recognition with minimal outlay. The fact that they can't run a football club will neither be here or there when it comes to selling chicken to the masses.

Don't know where that leaves the fans - though from talking to people over xmas - I don't think they care what the fans think (or do).

[Pitty]

Just Support the team as venkys will not sack Kean cause of a protest. I think some of the lead protestors are just getting power trips now.

[BuckyRover]

Top tweet:

@piersmorgan

12/31/11 2:42 PM

Hope those feckless Blackburn fans are feeling ever so slightly sheepish about all the abuse they've howled at Steve Kean now.

[LeChuck]

If Piers Morgan condemns the protests then we know that they are the moral and just thing to be doing.

[Jimmy612]

I don't think protests are the answer anymore. Venkys aren't bothered about the club. How they ever passed the 'stringent' fit and proper owner test I don't know. I would hazard a guess that the F.A. are just as corrupt as bloody Rovers at the moment and they may have seen an opportunity to rid the PL of one more small town club. (conspiracy theory?)

I just think that there is no-one to sack Kean. Venkys won't because they aren't interested in doing so. They just want a quick buck, a quick moment in the sun, and they don't care about the ruin that they will leave behind.

Kean has orchestrated this whole situation so that nobody at the club has any power over him. He is safer in his job than SAF at the moment, no understatement!

I am utterly, utterly deflated with regard to BRFC. So we manage to stay up this season (massively unlikely), then what? Another miserable season in the PL under Kean? More protets and thus media criticism aimed at the fans who want the best for the club? I see no way out of this now.

We have had our 20 years. No one can take away the Jack Walker era. I fear that this ownership has signaled the time for us to sink back to the depths.

IMO, fans have never been so insignificant at any club. Absolutely gutted. I take my younger cousin to the Rovers and thus am still attending, if it wasn't for him, I don't think I would still be there.

My point is, I thank Glen and everyone else for doing their very very best to try to help our football club, and am sure that they will keep battling. But for me I see no light at the end of this tunnel. Kean will not be removed, we can't pay off Barclays without selling Samba and/or Hoillett, in turn we will sell other players e.g. Robinson and N'Zonzi, and will continue to fall deeper and deeper into the abyss.

Venkys, Kean and Jerome Anderson have completely dismantled a great club in about 12 months. There is no way back now!

[forumquizmaster]

Jackson, grow a pair lad. Im not supporting Venkys/ Kean or anyone concerned with them, im talking about the protests.

Support the team 100% during games (Like United, like Liverpool away), protest outside the ground AFTER the game......Not before and not during.

All these planned protests etc should be aimed at Venkys if you want to hurt them. To do that you need to do it India, whether its by a fly over at a big cricket match, or a billboard in Pune. Doing it here is getting nowhere and is simply causing tension amongst fans.

Some say they wont be getting tickets next year if they are still here and Kean is in charge, well im afraid the protestors are also having that impact on some fans too.

I would echo the highlighted bits.

[koi]

I thought my hatred of Piers Morgan couldn't possibly get deeper but remarkably it just has.

[Neil Weaver]

And here in lies the rub, how many fans will we be left with once this sorry saga reaches a conclusion? Relegation is a very very strong possibility and if we keep losing fans will we have the basis to fund ourselves in the championship, were ticket money really counts?

Taking this a step further Maji, attendances next season of about half what they currently are also gives Venky's a good excuse to sell off more of our assets. Less media attention (yes it's possible) too.

That tunnel is getting longer and darker.

[Majiball]

Taking this a step further Maji, attendances next season of about half what they currently are also gives Venky's a good excuse to sell off more of our assets. Less media attention (yes it's possible) too.

That tunnel is getting longer and darker.

How long before we see a tesco's on Rovers car park? Pompey MKII and yet another set of bewildered fans asking how can we be in so much debt given our player sales?

-20M in one year, I'm judging you now Chicken Overlords and I'm judging you shizters.

PS does anyone know 100% whether football clubs are governed by the same stringent laws normal businesses are? As I'm lead to believe a sporting institute e.g. Rovers isn't.

[keaney23]

These protest just are not having the impact they really deserve. There needs to be a new strategy drawn up. Venkys will not come to ewood to see the current dire state of affairs so why not go to India. The expense is the only reason behind that. Like the plane any one man paying that alone then it just wouldn't of happened. It did happen as there was supporters donating money into the protest stunt. If we as fans do that again, a fund raiser to send Glenn and 5-6 others out to India for a few days to talk to Indian press, To protest outside the HQ ect then maybe that will have a rippling effect not only in India but the press over here will eat this stuff up. Also we could get Indian fans to meet up and help demonstrate our despair at the current epic problems we are currently in. This would take a huge effort as all of the protest have but maybe this is one drastic action that might be heard not only in the UK but where it matters in India.

[daveoftherovers]

Unless these protests are before / after and aimed SOLELY at Venkys they will directly cause a confrontation between Rovers fans, set public opinion further against us, and, more importantly damages our credibility, which is the most important in these matters.

Plus, for me, it plays directly into the Venkys hands, with the "Look how unreasonable these fans are"

Say what you like about how incompetent these guys are, but beware, they are better at PR than we are, and they are currently winning the PR war, so it's VITAL that we keep the morale high ground and keep the focus on their management record, their motives and their apparent lack of strategy.

It's us that hold the integrity card, if we go back to the Bolton debacle, we will effectively hand that over.

And anyone who says the fans won't fall out are deluded, their were confrontations between fans in the BBE against Bolton, and some of the yellow t shirt brigade, especially some of the more immature ones, were falling out with some of the older clan, who are more than capable of looking after themselves, and the police and stewards did intervene, that was a low point I do not want to see repeated.

So please, don't feel you have Carte Blanche to continue to act for a good number who don't support the old approach, especially when you alienate us and the club.

And please do not put me down as a Kean or Venkys fan, I'm absolutely not, I just think, and I have been consistent on this, we need to concentrate on Venkys

[roversactive]

Just Support the team as venkys will not sack Kean cause of a protest. I think some of the lead protestors are just getting power trips now.

Agreed with this, we have nothing to gain by protesting, apart from causing tension between our own fans, and portraying our club in a bad light - at a time when we desperately need to buy players. Can't see the point in it, it's always been said that the fans back the players, but, it doesn't come across as such when protesting.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Do the protest leads have inside information as to our owners definite intentions during the transfer window - if they were having doubts about whether to put their own money into the club - surely the protests will only push them one way ?

[Stuart]

Do the protest leads have inside information as to our owners definite intentions during the transfer window - if they were having doubts about whether to put their own money into the club - surely the protests will only push them one way ?

That's a bit much, DMTP. So it'll be the fans fault when we don't buy any players in January?

WRITING

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"Say what you see" "Keep pressing and guessing!"

[thenodrog]

Agreed with this, we have nothing to gain by protesting, apart from causing tension between our own fans, and portraying our club in a bad light - at a time when we desperately need to buy players. Can't see the point in it, it's always been said that the fans back the players, but, it doesn't come across as such when protesting.

roversactive??? roversinactive would better suit imo.

[Mattyblue]

It's time to face facts, the protests have achieved nothing, I say this as a man who has marched from day one. Kean is still here, the owners don't give feck and we are closer than ever to relegation and all that leads to.

Any other owners at any other level we'd have got our way, not because of mob rule, but because of his record and the dire consequences for the football club, biut not here? WHY?

Now nothing will ever stop football fans venting on the ground, so that will I assume ramp up again now he's had his post Old Trafford truce.

But the organised stuff? Noone is listening, the majority of our own fans bugger off at full time, so the old line of 'Nowt wrong with protests after the game, just not during' is a load of cobblers as it ends up being the same hardy bunch taking part.

Local media, national media, MP's all have got involved but we've got nowhere. I just don't know where we go from here, the 'club' held their nerve and 'won'.

This football club was about the fans and trying it's level best on and off the park to win football matches, does anybody believe that is still the ethos of BRFC?

[Sparky Marky]

These protest just are not having the impact they really deserve. There needs to be a new strategy drawn up. Venkys will not come to ewood to see the current dire state of affairs so why not go to India. The expense is the only reason behind that. Like the plane any one man pauying that alone then it just wouldn't of happened. It did happen as there was supporters donating money into the protest stunt. If we as fans do that again, a fund raiser to send Glenn and 5-6 others out to India for a few days to talk to Indian press, To protest outside the HQ ect then maybe that will have a rippling effect not only in India but the press over here will eat this stuff up. Also we could get Indian fans to meet up and help demonstrate our despair at the current epic problems we are currently in. This would take a huge effort as all of the protest have but maybe this is one drastic action that might be heard not only in the UK but where it matters in India.

What next? Shall we pay him a wage and call him 'chief protester'.....we could pay his bills and everything so he can put all his resources into pissing in the

wind.?

[Paul Mellelieu]

roversactive??? roversinactive would better suit imo.

Pot, kettle. Etc.

[yoda]

What next? Shall we pay him a wage and call him 'chief protester'.....we could pay his bills and everything so he can put all his resources into pissing in the

wind.?

Do you have a constructive suggestion to make re the plight of Blackburn Rovers

[glen9mullan]

I'm currently away on a family break, and have been since Monday, I have NOT issued a press release, or issued an angle or spoken to the press regarding future plans.

Simon put a press release on Monday after the defeat and the first I was aware of it, was when I was copied in when it was sent.

I have been quiet regarding protest for the last 3 weeks because i'm currently talking to legal teams, key personnel in goverment, the FA and Premier League and other key figures in football.

The direction of future protest I get involved in are aimed at Venkys, pure and simple, I'm quite disappointed with how the press release is being quoted as they are NOT my quotes.

I have spoken to Simon regarding the press release and spoke with Paul Hunt at length today,The club was certainly not pleased with its content and it has potentially caused a few issue's to what we are trying to achieve.

I was also offered the opportunity by the club in last 7 days to join the Fans Forum, however I have declined the invitation as the Fans Forum is not a concept I totally agree with, due to

1, Not being democratically picked

2. Not elected by the wider supporter base.

3.I would never join the fans forum due to the club recommding me, as it goes against everything I believe in (Its not representative of the supporters, many members said they represented no-one when they went to Pune). I started protest as a concerned supporter. I remain a concerned supporter, I'm no-ones leader and I'm no-one's representative, I have not been appointed by anyone and have not been elected by anyone. I'm humbled and grateful that other supporters have shared my passion for our club and took part in protest we have organised.

The club have asked me to reconsider my decision to decline the offer of Joining the fans forum, but I have again declined the offer. The fans forum in my opinion could and should of done more during the last few months, and IMO sadly that ship has now sailed. I'm a pro-active individual and feel the fans forum is not active enough and its too much of a friends friend club.

I'm strongly of the opinion that the club requires an elected body of supporters, which works with an independent body like the BRST.

I'm currently in discussion with Simon regarding protest plans for the week commencing 9th January, This is something I won't take lightly and lots of planning will go into whatever we decide to do, unfortunately certain progress has hit a brick wall due to the timing of this last press release. This is something I have to today discussed with the club, and I have also been in touch with Simon.

I had planned to call a supporters meeting next week, but due to impact of certain things in the last 72 hours, then this is something which now may need to be postponed.

I have always maintained you protest for a reason and to have your voice and concerns heard, it takes lots of communication from lots of different parties for progress to be made, however mistakes have been made on both sides of the fence, and those mistakes are in danger of sending us back to square one.

This is something I have spent a lot of today trying to resurrect despite me being on a family holiday.

Venkys are the issue here, and as supporters their intentions need to be clear and communicated, One thing which is certain, I will not be going on a bang your heads against the wall campaign. Progress can only be made by communicating, and I have no intention of biting my nose off to spite your face.

I'm keen for progress to be made with the full co-operation of the club, and key figures like the councillors, Wayne Wild etc. My first love is our team, my second love is our team, and so on...

I hope this clears up my position to all those who have been posting up and down the net today, and those who have been making suggestions which are not true and not helpful at a time when people are trying their best ton do what they think is right.

[jim mk2]

The direction of future protest I get involved in are aimed at Venkys, pure and simple,

Targetting Venky's only has to be the right approach because I'm not sure they really know the depth of antipathy towards them. Kean will here as long as they are our owners.

The owners won't be over here soon so you'll have to make sure any protests will be seen on TV in India and that will mean headline-grabbing acts such as a sit-in pitch invasion. Either supporters feel passionately about the club or they don't and it will need concerted strong action to show Venky's they are not welcome here any more.

[Stuart]

Glen, it's interesting if the club have invited you to join the FF given their remit is apparently more about facilities and hot dog vendors.

Maybe don't be so hasty here in your refusal and perhaps discuss with Tom, Glenn and O2G to see if there is an opportunity for, or even appetite from FF members, for the FF to grow beyond its current limited scope?

Have a think.

[trs]

Glen, it's interesting if the club have invited you to join the FF given their remit is apparently more about facilities and hot dog vendors.

Maybe don't be so hasty here in your refusal and perhaps discuss with Tom, Glenn and O2G to see if there is an opportunity for, or even appetite from FF members, for the FF to grow beyond its current limited scope?

Have a think.

Not sure Glen would be welcomed by all members of the FF.