[Archived] Next protest

[whalleyrover]

Glenn, as one of the fans forum who went to Pune you are a disgrace. How can you call peaceful protesters when you were used by Venkys for a PR stunt in Pune It's time the FF was disbanded as it is unelected and has still not criticised the almighty problems left by Venkys.

[sijoco]

Glenn, as one of the fans forum who went to Pune you are a disgrace. How can you call peaceful protesters when you were used by Venkys for a PR stunt in Pune It's time the FF was disbanded as it is unelected and has still not criticised the almighty problems left by Venkys.

What?

[glen9mullan]

Glen, please explain your comment. What line have I started within this thread to make you feel that you need to tell everyone IN CAPITALS, that I know the person that attacked you at Wigan. He is known to many on here, so what are you alluding to? Just so you know, he is well aware of what I thought of his actions that day.

You know nothing about me, so in future avoid making assumptions about me or who my best friends are. As you have said on here many times, you treat people with respect and expect he same in return. What changed tonight?

You made a list of comments you claimed to have heard at yesterdays game, and all the comments were negative towards the people who protest, I chose not to comment on it all day but as it continued and insinuations were made regarding the behavour and stereotype of protesters, I thought i'd make it clear that anti protesters are the only ones who have in my opinion got violent. I was also stating that you keep company with those who have already been violent during this process, which I'm quite within my right to do.

I get very angry too at times and have not always been an angel, (Prob the ex doorman in me, and the fact I have been stabbed three times whilst working) however despite this I always conduct myself the right way, as anything I do or say will always reflect badly on the group. However at the same time, I have spenf many hours with the group and the amount of work that goes on behind the scenes by many many people cannot be under-estimated.

Glenn speaks of people acting within our name, is this an assuption or do they say "We are part of the BRFC Action group?"

I did think all this back biting was a thing of the past, as supporters have moved on in recent weeks, but every so often people open up old wounds. I have no desire to waste time covering old ground, but at the same time I wont have people labled as Chavs, thugs or any other word which they are being labelled. They are concerned supporters of our club, and care enough to give their free time to fight for their beliefs.

I would love to sit in the pub right up until Kick-Off and rush off to the pub afterwards too, but unfortunately Rovers future will be decided off the pitch and as soon as people realise this the better IMO

[HemelRover]

Congratulations, you have achieved your goal. Which planet are you on today?

EDIT: The point l was making is that someone who doesn't watch the news or read the papers and is only interest in Saturdays can see whats going on. If it makes you feel better you insult my son's intelligence to get your point across.

Where did he insult your sons intellegence?

[glen9mullan]

I don't condone it, just as much as I don't condone protesting while we're in the middle of a relegation battle which could potentially cause us to fail at it (to add to Venky's balls-ups).

So while you go on about "getting off your backside" to go protesting, how about the above thought for validity? Does it really not hold any water? You talk about being united. But all you've done is cause disunity, along with Venky's, and right now the disunity you're going to carry on causing seems totally unhelpful to our immediate concerns.

I prefer to stick to facts, and they are racking up by the day. Rovers decline has started since Venkys bought our club, removed our administration and Manager and appointed a recipe for disaster.

The club finances well documented, whilst if we dont get money in the next 9 days to satisfy the vultures, I think you may find yourself bidding on a memory,

I sadly can't sit back and watch the house burn down, Rovers means to much to me, and some of my best memories has the words Rovers in it, I dont really have an issue with people who chose to do nothing either, however I do have issues with people who do nothing but call those for trying.

[mark]

Okay. My problem with protesters is that they seem to genuinely want and relish defeat beacasue it supports their agenda.

There. I said it.

[cn174]

Glenn speaks of people acting within our name, is this an assuption or do they say "We are part of the BRFC Action group?"

I can't speak for anyone else, but I would probably class anyone wearing a gold/black scarf or yellow tshirt as part of that group.

I think what Glenn is trying to say is that if one or two people do cause some trouble (as they did yesterday) and they're wearing yellow and black then rightly or wrongly people will assume they're a protester which will then therefore reflect badly on everyone else. Now as you and mark have stated you have done your utmost to keep everything civil and well behaved which is good, but it only takes one little incident for that reputation to be tarnished.

[EwoodDawn]

I'm feeling the need to be 'mother' and suggest it might be best if we all left this thread and went to bed now. We've had a great result in the Indian press today, let's not spoil it by spending the next few hours jousting with posts. And I'm not criticising or saying that anyone's to blame but passions are running so high that maybe some time out to take stock might be just what the doc ordered.

[sijoco]

Where did he insult your sons intellegence?

He's 10 not 5!!!!! Spaceman, Train driver, do you have kids Hemel?

[mark1875]

Okay. My problem with protesters is that they seem to genuinely want and relish defeat beacasue it supports their agenda.

There. I said it. Want evidence? Here's an example:

Mattyblue, on 22 January 2012 - 15:15 PM, said:

We need to face facts, that Bolton game did our cause no end of harm.

(Mattyblue, sorry to single you out, yours was first quote I came across. I know loads of people have said similar).

So because Mattyblue thinks the scenes in the crowd at Ewood park v Bolton caused us harm, he and other protesters genuinely relish defeat?

This post is lost on me

[Tom]

Okay. My problem with protesters is that they seem to genuinely want and relish defeat beacasue it supports their agenda.

There. I said it. Want evidence? Here's an example:

(Mattyblue, sorry to single you out, yours was first quote I came across. I know loads of people have said similar).

You are actually doing Matty a big disservice he has never been one to be like that, what I believe he meant was the way the media jumped on the Kean situation after that televised game

[HemelRover]

He's 10 not 5!!!!! Spaceman, Train driver, do you have kids Hemel?

Yep, a 18 month old daughter. I cannot confirm if she wishes to be a spaceperson or not.

You still have not explained when he insulted your son?

[glen9mullan]

Okay. My problem with protesters is that they seem to genuinely want and relish defeat beacasue it supports their agenda.

There. I said it. Want evidence? Here's an example:

(Mattyblue, sorry to single you out, yours was first quote I came across. I know loads of people have said similar).

He was referring to atmosphere the organic protest produced and how it was percieved in the media, It did us loads of harm, including losing to a relegation rival

[sijoco]

Yep, a 18 month old daughter. I cannot confirm if she wishes to be a spaceperson or not.

You still have not explained when he insulted your son?

When your daughter is 10 and someone asks her if she wants to be a Princess then you come back and tell me she's not been insulted.

[47er]

Glen. You seem to be confusing people attending protests (who I have no reason to criticize and in fact I applaud), with those who now act in your name (or at least in the name of the movement you started).

... which is kinda the problem. Everyone else will do that too. And it'll be a big problem for you.

Hasn't that already happened? Anything said or done by any Rovers fan is being dropped at Glen's door whether there has been any organised protest or not. The perpetrators are invariably labelled "protester" not "fan" whether they are connected to Glen's organised protests or not.

It is a hard one for Glen but its not made any easier by some on here who ought to be better informed.

[HemelRover]

When your daughter is 10 and someone asks her if she wants to be a Princess then you come back and tell me she's not been insulted.

All El Tombro said was that he(HE!) wanted to be a spaceman when he was 10. That isnt insluting your son.

[47er]

I don't condone it, just as much as I don't condone protesting while we're in the middle of a relegation battle which could potentially cause us to fail at it (to add to Venky's balls-ups).

So while you go on about "getting off your backside" to go protesting, how about the above thought for validity? Does it really not hold any water? You talk about being united. But all you've done is cause disunity, along with Venky's, and right now the disunity you're going to carry on causing seems totally unhelpful to our immediate concerns.

Disgusting.

[glen9mullan]

I'm feeling the need to be 'mother' and suggest it might be best if we all left this thread and went to bed now. We've had a great result in the Indian press today, let's not spoil it by spending the next few hours jousting with posts. And I'm not criticising or saying that anyone's to blame but passions are running so high that maybe some time out to take stock might be just what the doc ordered.

Hehe, I'm try and remain calm regarding Rovers, and have been taking stock for the last week to ensure that our next move is the right move,

There has been discussions of boycotts, march's , lasers, merchandise boycotts, trips to the FA, more non match day protest, sharing knowledge rallies the, works, sadly all these things need careful consideration and major planning to ensure they hit the target.

In addition we are working hard on the website and getting this open supporters meeting on the 2nd Feb well attended, oh and I have been selling BRFCS Sportsman dinner tickets too.

How I fitted it in I dont know as I have been out the house at 6.am all week and only got in at 6.30pm.

Forums are where we gauge opinions and get most of our idea's so I don't mind reading the other opinion,

[HemelRover]

Disgusting.

Oh get over yourself.

[ABBEY]

I don't condone it, just as much as I don't condone protesting while we're in the middle of a relegation battle which could potentially cause us to fail at it (to add to Venky's balls-ups).

So while you go on about "getting off your backside" to go protesting, how about the above thought for validity? Does it really not hold any water? You talk about being united. But all you've done is cause disunity, along with Venky's, and right now the disunity you're going to carry on causing seems totally unhelpful to our immediate concerns.

SO WHEN DO YOU PROTEST? HOW BAD DOES IT NEED TO BE?

[Doug]

All El Tombro said was that he(HE!) wanted to be a spaceman when he was 10. That isnt insluting your son.

I'm 49 and a half and I still want to be a spaceman!

[Amo]

I'm feeling the need to be 'mother' and suggest it might be best if we all left this thread and went to bed now. We've had a great result in the Indian press today, let's not spoil it by spending the next few hours jousting with posts. And I'm not criticising or saying that anyone's to blame but passions are running so high that maybe some time out to take stock might be just what the doc ordered.

So much for that, eh, Dawn?

[sijoco]

All El Tombro said was that he(HE!) wanted to be a spaceman when he was 10. That isnt insluting your son.

When it's in direct reply to a post mentioning my son, who is 10 and his thoughts on the protests, then it's pretty clear exactly what he is insinuating. If not then all it proves is El Tombro was very immature at 10, nothing changes

[ABBEY]

He's 10 not 5!!!!! Spaceman, Train driver, do you have kids Hemel?

+1

[47er]

I couldn't agree more with you. For now I'm only worried about between now and May. In other words, this club's survival in the Premier League (or just this club's survival!).

/quote]

Then I'm afraid you have tunnel vision. You seem to think that the club's survival depends on results, therefore "let's cheer the lads on".

One day you'll wake up and see that results are merely one aspect of a far wider problem.

If the club continues to be run as it is, we'll disappear anyway.