[Archived] Next protest

[J*B]

Blue Army.

[ABBEY]

When it's in direct reply to a post mentioning my son, who is 10 and his thoughts on the protests, then it's pretty clear exactly what he is insinuating. If not then all it proves is El Tombro was very immature at 10, nothing changes

MY SON IS 13 AND THINKS KEANS A T@@@

[HemelRover]

When it's in direct reply to a post mentioning my son, who is 10 and his thoughts on the protests, then it's pretty clear exactly what he is insinuating.

That 10 year old boys have changed so much in the last 10/20/30 years? Im 30 years old now and im pretty sure that I wasnt far off 10 years old when I would have answered "what do you want to do when you grow up?" with Spaceman/Racecar Driver/Submarine Pilot/Han Solo/Indiana Jones.

Change in maturity/innocence levels over the decades?

[47er]

What is disgusting about wanting what is right for Rovers by my own opinion?

Blaming Glen for causing division when the blame clearly lies elsewhere and he's working his guts out for our club is DISGUSTING.

[sijoco]

That 10 year old boys have changed so much in the last 10/20/30 years? Im 30 years old now and im pretty sure that I wasnt far off 10 years old when I would have answered "what do you want to do when you grow up?" with Spaceman/Racecar Driver/Submarine Pilot/Han Solo/Indiana Jones.

Change in maturity/innocence levels over the decades?

Absolutely Hemel. At 10 l just wanted be 11 but thats what happens when you're an English kid in Cardiff

[Doug]

That 10 year old boys have changed so much in the last 10/20/30 years? Im 30 years old now and im pretty sure that I wasnt far off 10 years old when I would have answered "what do you want to do when you grow up?" with Spaceman/Racecar Driver/Submarine Pilot/Han Solo/Indiana Jones.

Change in maturity/innocence levels?

IMO kids are not allowed as innocent a childhood as I was lucky enough to have, due to TV, press, possibly schooling. When I was 10 I wanted to be Captain Kirk, or Illia Kuryakin (spelling could be iffy, the chap off the man from uncle)!! And I grew up ok (I think)!!

[bob fleming]

Absolutely Hemel. At 10 l just wanted be 11 but thats what happens when you're an English kid in Cardiff

[47er]

Oh get over yourself.

Oh wind your neck in.

[glen9mullan]

IMO kids are not allowed as innocent a childhood as I was lucky enough to have, due to TV, press, possibly schooling. When I was 10 I wanted to be Captain Kirk, or Illia Kuryakin (spelling could be iffy, the chap off the man from uncle)!! And I grew up ok (I think)!!

When I was a kid my mum used to tie a pork chop around my neck to get the dog to play with me, I only realised our house had windows upstairs when I was 13 when my mum removed the wardrobes from in front of them.

Fortunately the strict bringing up meant I dare not have a day off school and I have evolved since

[ABBEY]

IMO kids are not allowed as innocent a childhood as I was lucky enough to have, due to TV, press, possibly schooling. When I was 10 I wanted to be Captain Kirk, or Illia Kuryakin (spelling could be iffy, the chap off the man from uncle)!! And I grew up ok (I think)!!

I WANTED TO BE A PORN STAR

[Glenn]

Glenn, as one of the fans forum who went to Pune you are a disgrace. How can you call peaceful protesters when you were used by Venkys for a PR stunt in Pune It's time the FF was disbanded as it is unelected and has still not criticised the almighty problems left by Venkys.

I have NOT, nor ever will call peaceful protesters, I've gone a long way to make it very obvious I'm not doing that. As for the FF, I've already said on this thread I'm not talking about it until tomorrow.

Glenn speaks of people acting within our name, is this an assuption or do they say "We are part of the BRFC Action group?"

No. I avoided mentioning the Action Group (an awkward group as there was previously an Blackburn Rovers Action Group, made up of influential fans who smelt a rat before Venky's even completed the sale) as I've never spoken to them an know nothing about them.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I would probably class anyone wearing a gold/black scarf or yellow tshirt as part of that group.

I tried to avoid that too, as there are plenty of people who have adopted yellow of black that aren't dragging the rest down

I think what Glenn is trying to say is that if one or two people do cause some trouble (as they did yesterday) and they're wearing yellow and black then rightly or wrongly people will assume they're a protester which will then therefore reflect badly on everyone else. Now as you and mark have stated you have done your utmost to keep everything civil and well behaved which is good, but it only takes one little incident for that reputation to be tarnished.

Kinda, yeah (though not necessarily yellow and black).

I'm feeling the need to be 'mother' and suggest it might be best if we all left this thread and went to bed now. We've had a great result in the Indian press today, let's not spoil it by spending the next few hours jousting with posts. And I'm not criticising or saying that anyone's to blame but passions are running so high that maybe some time out to take stock might be just what the doc ordered.

Best post on here. But it does make me realise we all want the same thing, but disagree how to get that ... and still fall out and resort to name calling about it.

[mark1875]

Blaming Glen for causing division when the blame clearly lies elsewhere and he's working his guts out for our club is DISGUSTING.

+1

[mark1875]

The Brfc Action Groups next round of protests:

TRANSFER DEADLINE DAY

Due to the media coverage the closure of the transfer deadline brings there is an opportunity for us to take our banners, t-shirts and flags down to either Brockhall or Ewood Park, or possibly even both dependent on our numbers, for a peaceful static protest.

This also falls on the eve of our next home game against Newcastle. Amid speculation there will be Indian news networks present at this match, we see this as an opportunity for some excellent exposure over the couple of days.

TV Cameras, Photographers and Reporters will be camped outside either or both of these venues throughout the day and whilst the media interest is present, we plan as a group to peacefully protest against our owners Venky's and their mismanagement of the club. We urge those who can attend, to do their very best to do so throughout the day and also into the evening.

Our behavior on all previous protests has been exemplary and we intend to show again that we are simply concerned supporters willing to take time out of our lives to try and convey our concerns surrounding our football club.

ROVERS V NEWCASTLE 01/02/12

As we continue our on-going protests against our owners Venkys and their mismanagement of our football club, we Intend to hold a protest march from the Brown Cow to Ewood Park, the March will follow the normal route, subject to the relevant legal clearances.

This protest will be aimed at Venky's and carry the message “Venkys please engage with the clubs stakeholders, or sell the club”.

BLACKBURN ROVERS OPEN SUPPORTERS MEETING - 02/02/12

An open supporters meeting has been called to discuss Blackburn Rovers current situation. ALL supporters groups are being invited including the BRST, Supporter sites, BRFC Action Group, and the Fans forum.

This meeting is open to everyone who supports Blackburn Rovers ,as we try and get the community spirit back amongst our clubs supporters

Further details of the planned events will be available on the BRFC Action Group website

http://www.brfcactiongroup.org.uk/

[Stuart]

Wow. Just read the whole of the scenes from overnight.

If BRFCS was a pub then the landlord and all of the bar staff and door personnel just had a massive barney with the guys and gals who are trying to keep the bailiffs out.

Tensions are clearly stretched. Well done and thank you to Kean and Venkys. Took a wee while but you are definitely getting what you wanted.

[Mattyblue]

Glad I stayed away, always a barney on here on a Sunday night!

[BPF]

I fully support the protests and we (NYC Rovers) have done our best to support the Save CFC effort in particular (Read this).

However, I do admit that I have left a large amount of the groups on Facebook. Some of the bigoted, racist and downright backwards comments written on the wall are disgusting and not something that I want to see or be associated with. The education level of some of the members is nothing short of depressing. A particular favourite seems to be calling our owners a different nationality and religion....

I think in order for protests to work, you need someone at the top to care. My belief is that we are essentially ran by ghosts and protesting is essentially like praying to a non existant being.

[thenodrog]

Totally agree, the organic protest which anti organised protest people took part in, set the process back weeks, and turned a sympathetic media against us,

This is why organised protest started in the first place, so that the message would not be lost in translation, once they went organic the press went to town on us.

Thankfully we are turning the media around again now after a few weeks of trying to repair the damage done, The owners are fully aware of why we are protesting and we need the media to be a constant in putting pressure on them.

I think the articles in the Indian Times and the Independent, the revelations about the 'Ewood letter' etc etc are a direct result of the protests and show that the entire issue is hotting up. What will happen nobody can say of course.

BUT

There are a lot of wimps, 'ah buts', airy fairy pontificators and even a Bishop amongst our support base who don't have the gonads to say boo to goose so a message to them is that recent events have proved the old adage that "there is no such thing as bad publicity".[/b]

Who out there is stupid enough to think that the 'biggies' listed above would have happened without the protests? C'mon own up.

[thenodrog]

I can't speak for anyone else, but I would probably class anyone wearing a gold/black scarf or yellow tshirt as part of that group.

I think what Glenn is trying to say is that if one or two people do cause some trouble (as they did yesterday) and they're wearing yellow and black then rightly or wrongly people will assume they're a protester which will then therefore reflect badly on everyone else. Now as you and mark have stated you have done your utmost to keep everything civil and well behaved which is good, but it only takes one little incident for that reputation to be tarnished.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke

And that is it in a nutshell. I'm not picking on you klur here I'm rather generalising on my opinion of the brfc support base.

All you Mr and Mrs Perfectroversfan who deem it beneath your dignity or more likely intelligence to walk on a half mile protest march given the sh1t that the Venkys have foisted upon us carry a huge burden not only of guilt but also of responsibility for the image of the club. 10000 'proper' fans will reduce any troublemakers to mere fly specks.

The message is easy ..... Get off your soft arses and represent the club in a proper fashion and conquer your inherent cowardly natures. You might think so but protesting thios cause is not beneath any of you thats for sure.

[47er]

I don't condone it, just as much as I don't condone protesting while we're in the middle of a relegation battle which could potentially cause us to fail at it (to add to Venky's balls-ups).

So while you go on about "getting off your backside" to go protesting, how about the above thought for validity? Does it really not hold any water? You talk about being united. But all you've done is cause disunity, along with Venky's, and right now the disunity you're going to carry on causing seems totally unhelpful to our immediate concerns.

This is your post, which I did read carefully and commented on appropriately. That's a wretched attack on someone who's worked his guts out for the club and I'm defending him.

If you want to wriggle out of it now, that's your issue. I've said what I think and stand by it. Don't give it if you can't take it. My last post on this.

[thenodrog]

Oh get over yourself.

Ex moderators union coming together I see. Twas ever thus.

Just as an aside how many from admin, mods and staff from this mboard have attended a march? No fibbing please.

I'll wager it's not as many as went to Pune.

IMO kids are not allowed as innocent a childhood as I was lucky enough to have, due to TV, press, possibly schooling. When I was 10 I wanted to be Captain Kirk, or Illia Kuryakin (spelling could be iffy, the chap off the man from uncle)!! And I grew up ok (I think)!!

Different now 12miles kids mature / grow up so much more slowly these days.

[47er]

Sorry but you're a total flamer. You always have been. I'm not talking about your "disgusting" comment. I'm talking about you taking my posts and then cherry picking one point to turn it into a full on argument without taking the context of the rest of it. The bit where you say I fully blame Glen for all our problems. That's crap. I never said that.

Funny but that's what I think about you. Have another read:

"all you've done is cause disunity" (my emphasis). written to Glen. I've repeated your entire post above without any "cherry-picking" at all. You've no grounds for complaint. But Glen has.

[Tom]

Just as an aside how many from admin, mods and staff from this mboard have attended a march? No fibbing please.

I'll wager it's not as many as went to Pune.

I'd imagine you are right not that it has any relevence at all though. Worth noting the two admins contributed to the joint statement which for me is still the best statement put out there.

One thing I found totally wrong is some of the comments on the Facebook page recently encouraging other members of the action group to abuse someone on Twitter as he said his site couldn't support the protests, that kind of thing is just pathetic and a good reason why the idea to move to a standalone forum is a good one. What you have is a new community formed from it (which is a good thing) sadly with that the facebook page becomes more a vehicle for having a laugh and a joke and in my view it would be better served as an information page.

This whole thing has got extremely petty in the last 12 or so hours on all sides it seems.

I hope the open meeting can bring folk together.

[gilly1]

Some very interesting comments at Everton yesterday, from both scousers and rovers fans.

"I saw a rovers fan on BBC world on Sunday night and still have no idea what they expect the protests to achieve. Any delicate questions were left unanswered"

"it's beginning to look like the protestors don't actually want Rovers to stay up as they will look a bit stupid for abusing Kean to such an extent"

"the 24hour protest was bizarre, I drove past at half nine and saw young chavs supping special brew and screaming at cars as they went by"

"what exactly do the protestors think they will achieve. Do they have any set goals?" (liverpool fan)

"the protestors have tarnished the image of club, not intentionally, but they have. They have also turned would be sympathetic supporters of other clubs against them"

"I am a protestor and want Kean out coz he is sh*t"

BTW, fantastic support yesterday, the singing never stopped and even intensified when we went one down.

well said mr roost another battling performance from the boys in blue and white ,as for the so called protesters take a good look in the mirror at yourselfs u have made your point now dont bother goin games anymore u not needed is it true your goin to boo for an hour in the next home game u mugs get a grip the team needs everyone to get behind them mr mullan u have a lot to answer for go and follow your local team chorley - steve keans blue and white army

[Mattyblue]

'Steve Kean's blue n white army?'

Got a good ring to it that, get it started at the next game gilly lad!

[Tom]

The deadline day one could get some good coverage if done right and people resist the temptation to act like numpties behind the presenter like you see at some grounds (Stoke fans and City fans spring to mind)