[Archived] Next protest

[jim mk2]

Easy enough to come up with that now EIT. Quite right the way to hurt them is articles like the one in the Economic Times. What you fail to acknowlege is that if it were not for the protests there would never have been such an article and if the protests stop, so will the articles.

Venky's need to be shocked into action. Violence and anger got rid of Jim Iley years ago and it would work again.

[ABBEY]

im still mentally traumatised by trunceons

[OscarRaven]

The deadline day one could get some good coverage if done right and people resist the temptation to act like numpties behind the presenter like you see at some grounds (Stoke fans and City fans spring to mind)

Nope I can see it now, stupid dancing, special brew, poor enunciation and hair thats been pasted to the skull with a vat full of chip fat.

[HemelRover]

Nope I can see it now, stupid dancing, special brew, poor enunciation and hair thats been pasted to the skull with a vat full of chip fat.

+1

[Wendal]

Any sort of protest/boycott during the game is counter productive and will only create a poisonous atmosphere, poor idea.

[BRFCBOY]

Not sure about the 15 min boycott surely we need to get behind the lads for 90 minutes without creating a negative atmosphere

[thenodrog]

Your opinion of coure; mine is that a few dozen fans protesting on Bolton Road or a few hundred marching from a pub to a football ground isn't what makes the Economoc Times of India devote 4 pages to a story any more than it made Venky's sack Kean

You are way off the beam. Too far away no doubt.

The single thing imo that kick started the lot was booing Kean when he did a high five with the Yak v Swansea after the Yak had scored. That galvanised the press and media... albeit some for us and some against us. Whichever it shoved us right to the fore and gained us the pabulum of publicity which led imo to the whole cateogory of events witnessed this month and starting with the Fat controller blubbing on Sky, through the leaked letter to the nuclear ETI article.

Rem EiT you cant make an omelette without cracking a few eggs.

btw 'few dozen' does you no credit. I'd guess between 500 and a thousand pre Arsenal match. Decrying the effort of many sincere supporters in such disparaging fashion makes you out to be a right pompous ######!..... OOOps swear filter engaged... substitute pratt

[47er]

Easy enough to come up with that now EIT. Quite right the way to hurt them is articles like the one in the Economic Times. What you fail to acknowlege is that if it were not for the protests there would never have been such an article and if the protests stop, so will the articles.

Well said.

[EwoodDawn]

Nope I can see it now, stupid dancing, special brew, poor enunciation and hair thats been pasted to the skull with a vat full of chip fat.

Oscar and Hemel, whilst I appreciate that, being in Germany and Hemel Hempstead, you personally can't be around, if message boarders are worried about the 'type of people' that will be broadcast at the deadline day protest, they need to do something about it. If they think that some people may be shown who don't reflect them or their views, then they need to try to get there themselves or at least urge others to go along on their behalves. I think when you look back at the interviews with Rovers fans broadcast by TV stations and the press recently, you find they were undertaken by a fairly small group of people. Why is this? Of course it's a little daunting to stand in front of a camera but since we all care so much, why don't we just endure a little discomfort for the greater cause? Those who have spoken out already are not the only Rovers fans who can speak using words of more than one syllable. Many of our posters on here are fantastic communicators. So how about it? The more rational, lucid fans front up to the cameras, the more sympathy will be generated amongst fans of other teams and the more outrageous the Raos' treatment of their football club will appear.

And before you reply with the obstacles that most of us have about being at work, family commitments, etc. surely someone from here could make it? Even if it's only one or two, wouldn't that be great?

[Exiled in Toronto]

You are way off the beam. Too far away no doubt.

The single thing imo that kick started the lot was booing Kean when he did a high five with the Yak v Swansea after the Yak had scored. That galvanised the press and media... albeit some for us and some against us. Whichever it shoved us right to the fore and gained us the pabulum of publicity which led imo to the whole cateogory of events witnessed this month and starting with the Fat controller blubbing on Sky, through the leaked letter to the nuclear ETI article.

Rem EiT you cant make an omelette without cracking a few eggs.

btw 'few dozen' does you no credit. I'd guess between 500 and a thousand pre Arsenal match. Decrying the effort of many sincere supporters in such disparaging fashion makes you out to be a right pompous ######!..... OOOps swear filter engaged... substitute pratt

A simple explaination of your perspective would have sufficed without the insult thanks

[47er]

Oscar and Hemel, whilst I appreciate that, being in Germany and Hemel Hempstead, you personally can't be around, if message boarders are worried about the 'type of people' that will be broadcast at the deadline day protest, they need to do something about it. If they think that some people may be shown who don't reflect them or their views, then they need to try to get there themselves or at least urge others to go along on their behalves. I think when you look back at the interviews with Rovers fans broadcast by TV stations and the press recently, you find they were undertaken by a fairly small group of people. Why is this? Of course it's a little daunting to stand in front of a camera but since we all care so much, why don't we just endure a little discomfort for the greater cause? Those who have spoken out already are not the only Rovers fans who can speak using words of more than one syllable. Many of our posters on here are fantastic communicators. So how about it? The more rational, lucid fans front up to the cameras, the more sympathy will be generated amongst fans of other teams and the more outrageous the Raos' treatment of their football club will appear.

And before you reply with the obstacles that most of us have about being at work, family commitments, etc. surely someone from here could make it? Even if it's only one or two, wouldn't that be great?

Yes---like it. Bit of a superior attitude there from the two of them. You don't have to have a PHD to be a Rovers fan. Its a poor town in the socio-economical sense and we are what we are.

[LDRover]

Like the transfer deadline one, I'll be there. In fact, I'll be at the march and 15 minute boycott as well.

I urge other supporters to do the same. Don't be lulled back into apathy because we've had a couple of decent results.

We're still being hopelessly mismanaged from the top right down and, in case you didn't notice through this massive wave of positivity, are still in the bottom three.

Venky's need to know what they are doing to our club, make your presence felt. Please.

[Paul]

BLACKBURN ROVERS OPEN SUPPORTERS MEETING - 02/02/12

An open supporters meeting has been called to discuss Blackburn Rovers current situation. ALL supporters groups are being invited including the BRST, Supporter sites, BRFC Action Group, and the Fans forum.

This meeting is open to everyone who supports Blackburn Rovers ,as we try and get the community spirit back amongst our clubs supporters

Further details of the planned events will be available on the BRFC Action Group website

http://www.brfcactiongroup.org.uk/

Do you have a venue yet?

[Guest TheArtistFormallyKnownAsJB]

I do not agree with a 15 minute boycott protest. Same level of performance for 90 minutes with a roaring Ewood will guarantee 3 points against a depleted Newcastle through African players responsibilities in the ACN.

Honestly I like the idea of getting on the news making the point of how our club is beng shamefully run by a bunch of cowboys. If anything we should also be using these avenues to lobby the FA, Premier league, Etc.

Seriously though. We need the fans in the ground for 90 minutes. Our last relegation battle... The support was vital. Different set of variables but the Blackburn end bouncing will have the same effect on the pitch.

[mark]

Well, the message is loud and clear from the players – KEEP IT OUT OF EWOOD!

Dunn said: “Sometimes it is difficult to keep the spirit up, certainly with what’s going on off the pitch.

“So credit to the lads – and let’s be honest, we’re not talking of experienced players in the main here.

“Barring a couple of us, we’re talking young men who haven’t played too many games between them.

“Everything they’re being told, they’re taking in and it looks as if we have some good young lads in there.

“I can sense over the last couple of games or so, a shifting of the mood.

“The fans were criticised all over the place, but they’ve kept everything out of the ground.

“They have seen a bit of a reward in the results, and through that the players are getting more confidence back.”

Ask yourself, how will a 15 minute boycott support the cause of our club ON the pitch??

Protests about OFF the pitch stuff must be kept OUT OF EWOOD.

[mark]

Any sort of protest/boycott during the game is counter productive and will only create a poisonous atmosphere, poor idea.

Absolutely spot on sage. And the players agree:

Dunn said: Sometimes it is difficult to keep the spirit up, certainly with whats going on off the pitch.

So credit to the lads and lets be honest, were not talking of experienced players in the main here.

Barring a couple of us, were talking young men who havent played too many games between them.

Everything theyre being told, theyre taking in and it looks as if we have some good young lads in there.

I can sense over the last couple of games or so, a shifting of the mood.

The fans were criticised all over the place, but theyve kept everything out of the ground.

They have seen a bit of a reward in the results, and through that the players are getting more confidence back.

I cannot get my head around how anyone feels a 15 minute boycott support the cause of our club ON the pitch?? We're getting towards the business end of the season and staying up has to be the priority.

Protests about OFF the pitch stuff must be kept OUT OF EWOOD.

(I posted similar in other protest thread but it's relevant here too - why two threads??)

[mark1875]

Do you have a venue yet?

Manxman pub, Blackburn 7.45pm

[bob fleming]

I do not agree with a 15 minute boycott protest. Same level of performance for 90 minutes with a roaring Ewood will guarantee 3 points against a depleted Newcastle through African players responsibilities in the ACN.

Honestly I like the idea of getting on the news making the point of how our club is beng shamefully run by a bunch of cowboys. If anything we should also be using these avenues to lobby the FA, Premier league, Etc.

Seriously though. We need the fans in the ground for 90 minutes. Our last relegation battle... The support was vital. Different set of variables but the Blackburn end bouncing will have the same effect on the pitch.

Agreed. Each to their own of course and i respect peoples choice, but that's not for me.

Things are bad enough as it is and while everyone wants the best for the club I believe this will create an "us and them" scenario. No one wants that. The club is a mess, the manager the owners, all said before to death. The players though are somehow getting results, or picking points up at least. Newcastle is winnable. Let's get behind the players from the off.

[EwoodDawn]

Just a thought. I've heard a few Rovers fans say things like, 'Who decided that we're doing this protest (as compared to the last one/something else)?' and 'Whose idea was this, then? I wasn't consulted.' Yes, there are 2000 members on the Kean out facebook page but it'd be interesting to see how many of the members actually go regularly to matches. I think I'm right in saying that BRFC Action group members post regularly on here, on Vital Rovers and maybe on other sites? That being the case, might it lessen the arguments against protest activities and bring more support for the events if there was a very quick straw poll (agree vs. disagree / support vs. oppose) on each of the fans' sites each time the Action Group think that a certain idea is a go-er, instead of simply announcing that X or Y is going on this week? Might it bring more of a sense of unity and inclusion? Just a thought.

[Sparky Marky]

There won't be anyone on Bob. Rovers fans won't riot ....they just won't go down. Gate for fulham was low.

[mark]

might it lessen the arguments against protest activities and bring more support for the events if there was a very quick straw poll (agree vs. disagree / support vs. oppose)

The problem with this is that protestors are way more militant, while people that are not in favour are less vocal and spend less time voting on boards like this. The poll results would be heavily skewed in favour of protests and would not reflect the growing consensus that Premier League survival is more important than anything else at this moment in time.

[CrazyIvan]

I think opinions about Kean are irrelevant when it comes to protesting. The protests are obviously not about him any more and he's going nowhere right now. As far as the rest goes, protest about Venky's but don't do it in such a way that it has a negative impact on supporting the players. The players are the only ones who can help keep the wolves from the door by at least keeping Rovers in the Premier League. So, to that end, delaying entry to the game by 15 minutes isn't going to help the players at all and, in my view, can only have a negative impact on them. I can see why you'd want to make a statement that way, it's visual and obvious, but I think it would be counter-productive.

[jim mk2]

im still mentally traumatised by trunceons

Unfortunately the lack of thought police deleted the reason for your post. But I understand what you are saying; the masses in Blackburn can beat the classes in Pune as shown by the power of the mob in the 1970s but it will need a show of force rather than so-called soft power.

[mark1875]

Just a thought. I've heard a few Rovers fans say things like, 'Who decided that we're doing this protest (as compared to the last one/something else)?' and 'Whose idea was this, then? I wasn't consulted.' Yes, there are 2000 members on the Kean out facebook page but it'd be interesting to see how many of the members actually go regularly to matches. I think I'm right in saying that BRFC Action group members post regularly on here, on Vital Rovers and maybe on other sites? That being the case, might it lessen the arguments against protest activities and bring more support for the events if there was a very quick straw poll (agree vs. disagree / support vs. oppose) on each of the fans' sites each time the Action Group think that a certain idea is a go-er, instead of simply announcing that X or Y is going on this week? Might it bring more of a sense of unity and inclusion? Just a thought.

Ideas and suggestions for protests are always welcomed, however there are not many forthcoming so when one is brought forward it is looked at and assessed and tested. In an ideal scenario we would not need to protest at all, however as long as the club continues to keep the drawbridge up we find ourselves having to do so. Organised protests which are agreed with the club and the police are in the best interests for all, as a return to the organic protests seen against Bolton Wanderers will do the club nor its supporters any favours.

So whilst we are in the position where we feel the need to protest, ideally now we would like to strike a balance where those who want to show their feelings and protest in an organised and peaceful manner can do so without angering those fan's who wish to go down and support their team. Whilst there will always be differences of opinion between groups, on what course of action is right for the club, we need to find the compromise between supporters where the protests can continue in an active manner which is not seen as 'disruptive to the team' by those who wish not to partake.

The open supporters meeting scheduled for the 2nd February is an ideal opportunity for supporters with differing opinions to put their points out there for discussion in order to try and find some common ground. We acknowledge that not everyone is going to be happy with all the plans suggested, however it has been taken on board on this occasion the number of people sharing the same feelings regarding the 15 minute boycott.

Whilst press releases are issued announcing the intention to protest a couple of weeks before the event, the plans are released onto social networking sites and forums such as this, in order to gauge opinions from the wider range of supporters long before an official press issue of the final details is released to the media as a definite go'er.

We are all going to have different idea's to which course of action is the right course of action and what is right for one person isn't always going to be right for the next. However we all want what is best for Blackburn Rovers football club and a considerably large majority are now in favour for the club to be put up for sale. In order to compromise in the search to find the solutions to our problems, everyone needs to get their say and this is why the open supporters meeting was called and is the reason why it's important that those who can attend, do their very best to do so.

[thenodrog]

A simple explaination of your perspective would have sufficed without the insult thanks

Your insult belittling the sincere actions of approx 700 supporters is Ok then is it?