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[Realist]

"Tongue in cheek", well you said it.

Course it is. I even said we shouldnt go down that route. It's not their fight. Their extremists. As for that EwoodDawn, that's my Mrs so I wouldn't worry too much about PETRA, ALF, ELO or BUPA blowing up the BBE just yet on her account either.

Still aren't we irresponsible eh? The very mention of it. Everyone panic.

So Realist, what do you propose? Fire away... What's your plan to rid ourselves of these ruddy charlatans?

Ricky, thats got to be the one.

Just look at how many of the most "peaceful" protests have been infiltrated by extremists, it would be dangerous to be as flippant as you obviously are about this sort of thing. Easy to brush it aside with a don't be ridiculous attitude. These things do happen.

Who would be the first to kick up a stink if EwoodDawn got injured?

[Ste B]

I don't understand why this idea of burning the Indian flag keeps coming up... we're not angry with India, we're angry with Venky's, who happen to come from India. If anything has to be burned it should be a flag with Venky's logo on it - surely that would send the message loudly and clearly enough without offending an entire nation of people that have nothing to do with Venky's save being born in the same country as them?

I'd suggest anybody lighting an Indian flag *could* find themselves in trouble for racism, let alone the trouble you'd get into for trying to set light to any flag.

Time to let that one slide methinks.

[bob fleming]

Just look at how many of the most "peaceful" protests have been infiltrated by extremists, it would be dangerous to be as flippant as you obviously are about this sort of thing. Easy to brush it aside with a don't be ridiculous attitude. These things do happen.

Do they? When have any of the aforementioned groups been involved at a football match?

Just for your benefit, and anyone else's, I do not advocate the involvement of any animal activist groups in any protests. I'd like to think that bleeding obvious to most people but you have to be careful these days. Clearly.

So Realist, your suggestions on how we remove these charlatans from our football club? I've made mine earlier in this thread in case you didn't notice.

[EwoodDawn]

Realist: Just look at how many of the most "peaceful" protests have been infiltrated by extremists, it would be dangerous to be as flippant as you obviously are about this sort of thing. Easy to brush it aside with a don't be ridiculous attitude. These things do happen.

Who would be the first to kick up a stink if EwoodDawn got injured?

I didn't post in time. Hope you've read it now. Neither Bob or me condone extremism. End of.

[he6rt6gr6m]

Oh, sweet Jesus. The "burn the Indian flag" thing came up again? Will someone ban whoever's suggesting that?

What an utterly stupid idea. Painting the whole of India with the same brush as the one you're painting Venky's with isn't the way to go, is it? And what would that cause for the town? On a bigger scale, the Indian community, who are bloody excellent people in this town, would be offended too! And they've not done anything wrong!

I despair. I really do. I understand that everyone here wants to do something, but for crying out loud, think outside the box for a bloody moment, would you?!

[Al]

Especially when you consider they monitor the forums etc. Whoever "they" are, clearly not The Raos and Desai anyway. A mixture of Stevie Boy, Aggers and Anderson I'd imagine.

PETA? Headbangers of the highest order. Surprised they've not had anything to say to be honest. Having said that this isn't their fight. But if people want the protests turning up then these are the boys, oh and the BWAB, Mrs F tells me (never heard of em myself). Not a route we should go down though I don't believe.

Hit em where it hurts, embarrass them in their own country. "A disgrace to The good name of India". "Indias shame. Stick to Chickens Venkys your embarassing yourselves and your Country". "If you love sport please boycott Venkys products until they have sold Blackburn Rovers, their miss management will destroy 136 years of history and proud existence". Full page advert, not cheap by any means but they won't bloody like that. Yes, I would contribute.

So would I.

Hmmm Raos did that at wigan and got rightly criticized for it. They walked out at ht. Your choice though.

Either get to the games or shut your mouth.

[ebenrocks]

ha. Not this burning flags crap again. Who ever keeps suggesting that rubbish needs to remember that Blackburn has a relatively large population of people who have Indian heritage, and a lot of these people are Rovers fans... do we really need any more tension between the fans at the moment?

People who disrespect the culture and symbols of other people are pure and total scum. We don't want those kind of people at Rovers, and we CERTAINLY don't the media using one person's idiocy to make us all look like racists. Would do the cause far more harm than good.

As for white hankies, not a good idea. It's a spanish cultural thing, and the venky's just wouldnt get it.

The problem we have is that most of what we do in the protests gets filtered out by Agnew, Kean and Anderson before it reaches the Venky's. We need to do something big enough and obvious enough so that firstly some of it DOES slip through the net and get to venky's, and secondly so it's easy for them to understand, bearing in mind that their first language is not English, and that this is their first encounter with protests of this kind.

Words are definitely required instead of just actions. Or maybe something a little more disruptive (although not violent) than has been done before.... a pitch invasion and sit in would be a number 1 suggestion, but there is no chance enough fans would be up it in order to leave the club unable to bring claims against them.

I think we just need to remember that if anything is done in large scale numbers, the club cant really do much about it (they're not going to ban 1000s of people from the ground coz they do not want the loss of revenue, and it will look bad for them to fine 1000s of people too)... it's just getting those not giving a damn to show a little interest....

[ebenrocks]

Any chance of someone slipping the guy who does the stadium announcements a few quid so that half way through the game he blares through the loud speakers: "There is a taxi here for Mr Kean, that's a Taxi for Mr Kean"?

[J*B]

Any chance of someone slipping the guy who does the stadium announcements a few quid so that half way through the game he blares through the loud speakers: "There is a taxi here for Mr Kean, that's a Taxi for Mr Kean"?

I wonder if its done via Radio Mic? If so, you could easily do it from the JW stand, if you could find its frequency...

[SAS]

I think we should follow the Spanish model and wave white hankys at the game

No way.

Venkys will think we have given up waving a little White hanky...

[Majiball]

Realist: Just look at how many of the most "peaceful" protests have been infiltrated by extremists, it would be dangerous to be as flippant as you obviously are about this sort of thing. Easy to brush it aside with a don't be ridiculous attitude. These things do happen.

Who would be the first to kick up a stink if EwoodDawn got injured?

I didn't post in time. Hope you've read it now. Neither Bob or me condone extremism. End of.

I dunno about that, I reckon making your missus live under the stairs is pretty extreme in my books.

[alexanders]

I say 90 minutes of theres only one jack walker , spiced with some loud KEan out and Venkys out chants.

Its on Sky and important that the supporters are loud. If possible I would try to organize one "loud singer" in each of the sections to get it going from all ends. Just like Britannia is famous for. This creates a fantastic atmosphere. River, JW , DW and BBE all singing only one jack walker would be fantastic.

[SouthAussieRover]

I dunno about that, I reckon making your missus live under the stairs is pretty extreme in my books.

I agree Maj its just not right.

I mean why doesn't he lock her under the stairs these days.

Surely he cares enough about her to save her from experiencing the nightmare that has been unfolding.

[PAFELL]

So would I.

Either get to the games or shut your mouth.

Is that the best way you can debate.

[PAFELL]

but my reason for doing it pafell would be to make a statement of my total disgust at how they are destroying our club, they did it because 'they were cold'!

I know there is a difference - which is why I said your choice. Me when I pay my money, I pay to watch the match - all of it.

People do not seem to realise, that until they convince Mrs D to act, nothing will change.

But she stays well hidden in the back ground.

The brothers come over very rarely, she even less.

Did the Pune 9 see her whilst over there - no

Did they get to talk to Kean - No

How did Kean get his new contract - he talked to Mrs D - the brothers had no say.

We say we have no chairman -sadly we do - its Mrs D.

She is the one supporters need to convince to either sell or sack Kean. Whilst sat in India, she is not subject to any protests, she won't feel it etc etc.

Ther brothers, well they are not likely to come over again.

Funding - that again is down to Mrs D. It would not bother her if the club was relegated. A fire sale would bring in some money that they would lose - then they would sell. She is more likely to allow the club to go down - because in my opinion, she does not give a damn for the club at all. She will use the club to reign in her brothers.

[alexanders]

Anuradha J Desai profile

Balajis Profile

Dont know if these are real, but J Desai are connected to John Williams, Sam Allardyce and EL Hadji Diouf.

Anyways, I took a chance a sent some comments to both Desai and Balaji.

[forumquizmaster]

Someone get on the PA at Ewood and swap 'The Final Countdown' for this ........

[yoda]

I know there is a difference - which is why I said your choice. Me when I pay my money, I pay to watch the match - all of it.

People do not seem to realise, that until they convince Mrs D to act, nothing will change.

But she stays well hidden in the back ground.

The brothers come over very rarely, she even less.

Did the Pune 9 see her whilst over there - no

Did they get to talk to Kean - No

How did Kean get his new contract - he talked to Mrs D - the brothers had no say.

We say we have no chairman -sadly we do - its Mrs D.

She is the one supporters need to convince to either sell or sack Kean. Whilst sat in India, she is not subject to any protests, she won't feel it etc etc.

Ther brothers, well they are not likely to come over again.

Funding - that again is down to Mrs D. It would not bother her if the club was relegated. A fire sale would bring in some money that they would lose - then they would sell. She is more likely to allow the club to go down - because in my opinion, she does not give a damn for the club at all. She will use the club to reign in her brothers.

I have been thinking this for sometime now, this I belive is the reason no sale took place yet as one of the brothers is still clinging to his independance!

The pressure needs to be on the RAOS not venkys as such as it is a fragmented target

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

OK, the self styled organisers of the protests really need to get a grip of things and do it quickly. Are posters on this forum really advocating getting the likes of PETA, ALF and BUAV involved in the protests ? Tongue in cheek posts they may have been but highly irresponsible and given these groups involvement in other protests possibly life threatening. Scaremongering it is not, a quick internet search will furnish you with more than enough evidence of these groups activities.

Glen, I ask you. As a protest organiser would you really want your wife,kids and family to be part of the Blackburn End crowd when these lunatics who have no concern for the safety of anyone around them take the protest to a completely different level?

I thought not, so get things sorted and stop it now or are you going to stick with your comment from earlier "I'm asking everyone who attends the game to do their own protest before the match in any way you see fit, this can be inside or outside the ground "ITS YOUR CHOICE"

I just wonder though, considering Prince Charles stance on all things ethical did the Princes Trust people not carefully consider the treatment of livestock before agreeing to have the logo emblazoned across the front of our shirts? I would have thought they did they're homework and had a close look at theVenky business before committing to the deal.

As for me, I know who I would blame if any member of my family got hurt as a result of protest involving these idiots, seemingly endorsed by the statement quoted from Glen above.

You may expect peaceful protest but you have no clue what sort of maniac you are potentially dealing with!

Realist, you appear to have an agenda with the protest and/or organisers. An agenda that smells a little fishy IMO. You are yet to make any suggestions as to how to resolve the situation but are happy to wax lyrical and mock others.

Perhaps you need to start an 'anti-protest' thread to pursue your musings...

[Kelbo]

Realist, you appear to have an agenda with the protest and/or organisers. An agenda that smells a little fishy IMO. You are yet to make any suggestions as to how to resolve the situation but are happy to wax lyrical and mock others.

Perhaps you need to start an 'anti-protest' thread to pursue your musings...

Yes fishy to me too, wonder which arm (or wing) of Venkys he's under?

That is not in my opinion, a true supporters view!!

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

Funding - that again is down to Mrs D. It would not bother her if the club was relegated. A fire sale would bring in some money that they would lose - then they would sell. She is more likely to allow the club to go down - because in my opinion, she does not give a damn for the club at all. She will use the club to reign in her brothers.

So based on that our options are.

1) support the team through the 90 mins and accept the management. We may stay up but it's highly unlikely and would be followed by another year of ridicule.

2) Protest during the games to try and force a change of management which may well result in us losing more games and going down - if the owners don't listen.

Either way the outcome is more than likely going to result in relegation. So do you support the team at all costs and hope we stay up, only to endure more of the same?

Alternatively do you protest (which seems to be falling on deaf ears) and hopefully get a change of management that will make a difference, this season and next?

The sad thing is, at this moment of time, relegation followed by a fire sale of players and a cheap sale of the club is probably the realistic outcome of either choice. Ironically, it would also be the best outcome in the long term for the club as these owners/management would be gone.

[ruggles1995]

There is a fella on facebook who had an idea of taking in things to matches related to Venkys company rivals, so start advertising venkys comepetitors on match days? he used examples of companies like - Tyson foods, Simran poultry, or Srinivasa poultry?

(not sure if he has already posted his idea on here, so if he has my apologies.)

[PAFELL]

There is a fella on facebook who had an idea of taking in things to matches related to Venkys company rivals, so start advertising venkys comepetitors on match days? he used examples of companies like - Tyson foods, Simran poultry, or Srinivasa poultry?

(not sure if he has already posted his idea on here, so if he has my apologies.)

Won't affect them in India. Bad adverts would only be affective in India.

[novella]

Anuradha J Desai profile

Balajis Profile

Dont know if these are real, but J Desai are connected to John Williams, Sam Allardyce and EL Hadji Diouf.

Anyways, I took a chance a sent some comments to both Desai and Balaji.

Think this is the proper one.

Mrs D

[OhmiBRFC]

Think this is the proper one.

Mrs D

I've just voted her down as a business leader.