[Archived] Next protest

[Stuart]

No chance of total silence as not everyone is behind the protest, for that to work everyone in the ground needs to be behind it really.

Same with a mass boycott in a way

It does illustrate the stark difference between not having supporters and having them, though. As cheddarbob says it's not really pro- or anti- protest, it's about showing the owners and media the difference the fans make.

I like the idea of a symbolic 2 minute's silence from the referee's whistle then an eruption of noise - and you don't have to convince everyone, just the most vocal fans. The secret would be the wall of noise created at the end of the minute.

Two potential issues though:

1) We aren't naturally the noisiest home crowd so would people really notice (advance publicity required)

2) It wouldn't work against Newcastle as 4-5000 Geordies would simply drown out the silence anyway. (Could we get them on board via the messageboards/press - do they still have anti-Ashley sentiment?)

"This is what football would be like without the fans"

[Mattyblue]

Problem is Stu, there are a hell of a lot of folk at Ewood who 'just want to watch the game', they scoff at any kind of protest.

[Stuart]

Appreciate that Matty but they are likely to be quiet anyway - probably for the full 90 except for the odd clapping for a goal. In my experience, anti-protesters only tend to open their mouths shout down the protesters - who would be silent anyway.

The more I think about it the more it seems the best way to visibly unite the fans - even if only inadvertently!

[EwoodDawn]

I'm sorry, I'm not keen on this one, Cheddar. Firstly, I think any away fans would just chant and clap through it, so the point would be lost. More inventive fans would probably make up chants taking the mickey out of us and our protest. Then I think you'd be opening up a new can of worms, re. turning fan against fan, particularly given that Dunny and co. have asked us to keep the protests out of the ninety mins on the pitch. You'd also be supplying the Sky Sports pundits, Jim (Kean's BFF) White, Talkrubbish and the tabloids a whole new bunch of sticks with which to beat us.

[Tom]

And if we scored in the ten minutes? Not a chance folk would remain quiet

[Sparky Marky]

And if we scored in the ten minutes? Not a chance folk would remain quiet

What a fanciful notion.

[LeChuck]

First post on this Messageboard, but have any of the organisers considered this approach taken from a Swedish game last year.

Basically, Blackburn fans have been treated disgustingly by both the current ownership and management. Its almost like these parties don't see any need for the fans. I say, lets show the owners the power of the fans in a positive way. No booing, no jeering, no banners, no boycott. Complete and utter silence for the first 10 minutes of the game. As soon as the 10 minutes is up, show the team, the management, the owners and the footballing world what the Rovers fans are made of....

Being a Wednesday night it should be a superb atmosphere down at Ewood!

What is the aim of doing such a thing? We have no idea whether Venky's will even be watching.

[Stuart]

I'm sorry, I'm not keen on this one, Cheddar. Firstly, I think any away fans would just chant and clap through it, so the point would be lost. More inventive fans would probably make up chants taking the mickey out of us and our protest. Then I think you'd be opening up a new can of worms, re. turning fan against fan, particularly given that Dunny and co. have asked us to keep the protests out of the ninety mins on the pitch. You'd also be supplying the Sky Sports pundits, Jim (Kean's BFF) White, Talkrubbish and the tabloids a whole new bunch of sticks with which to beat us.

So should we just continue with the marches which do nothing (any more)? Jim White and co will laugh and sneer anyway. Who cares what they think any more? People suggest new and innovative ideas (backed up with precedent from other clubs) and just get shot down with reason why we can't, shouldn't won't.

And if we scored in the ten minutes? Not a chance folk would remain quiet

If we had as many ideas about how to raise the profile as reasons why things won't work...

I guess we should just stop trying and get back on board SS Kean?

Tom, do you know anything about Glenn's FF idea/suggestion that was signposted a few days ago? Seemed like something was brewing?

[47er]

Tom, do you know anything about Glenn's FF idea/suggestion that was signposted a few days ago? Seemed like something was brewing?

I wondered about this too. Glenn,in response to a post of mine about the FF about protests, you replied you'd have something to announce in 24 hours (as I remember it).

No?

[glen9mullan]

action group website building up nicely, for latest news check link

http://brfcactiongroup.org.uk/index.php/protest/support

[Elvis McSmithy]

pack all the organized protesting in its silly naive nonsense organized by folks on a massive ego trip, I'm not saying people shouldn't air their feelings, just don't let a hand full of jumped up so called fans tell you how and when to air those feelings.

[Ricky]

In my experience, anti-protesters only tend to open their mouths shout down the protesters - who would be silent anyway.

Didn't Glen go off on one a few pages ago for peopel sterotyping the protesters!!! You've just done exactly the same to the non protesters.

[Howler]

action group website building up nicely, for latest news check link

http://brfcactiongroup.org.uk/index.php/protest/support

Glen - I like the site and especially the "support" section with the MP and Dr Who. Adds some credibility.

Keep up the good work and lets hope the protests register with Venky's if the Indian TV crew turn up

[47er]

pack all the organized protesting in its silly naive nonsense organized by folks on a massive ego trip, I'm not saying people shouldn't air their feelings, just don't let a hand full of jumped up so called fans tell you how and when to air those feelings.

Very unfair imo.

[mark1875]

pack all the organized protesting in its silly naive nonsense organized by folks on a massive ego trip, I'm not saying people shouldn't air their feelings, just don't let a hand full of jumped up so called fans tell you how and when to air those feelings.

People, take one look at this attitude!!

Do not let people with a clear attitude problem tell you what you shouldn't be doing. We can all decide for ourselves! I can respect anybody's views and understand an individuals right to make the choice that is correct for them, unlike some people clearly.

Also i find it very contradictory of you to use the term 'so called fans' considering 8 weeks ago you wrote: i think next time id suggest maybe arranging things so there are a handfull of vocal protesters in every block of the stands that wouldnt hesitate at all in standing up and protesting even if nobody around him/her is, im sure other more hesitant people would then join in. Ysterday i was itchin to get up and protest but as nobody anywhere near me in the jack walker stand lower tier block wo2 was, i didnt have the balls as i was on my own and am not loud enough anyway.

So we arrange protests to be conducted in a safe manner outside of game hours and we are so called fan's, yet you can take the moral highground despite your desire to have people protesting during a match and disrupting the game?

:wacko:

[Stuart]

Didn't Glen go off on one a few pages ago for peopel sterotyping the protesters!!! You've just done exactly the same to the non protesters.

I've not stereotyped at all. I said "in my experience".

As you've brought it up, I seem to remember a lot of people "going off on one" recently, in particular mods and admin.

Maybe that's why the site is so quiet these days? Or why "guests" double "posters" most evenings?

[john.leigh]

I like the silent protest idea.

Of course it easy for me to say in Aus, but I think it would be effective & thought provoking.

Maybe nufc game might not be best time, but it's worth doing in order to once again publicise our plight.

[Elvis McSmithy]

Very unfair imo.

true enough though, imo.

[Elvis McSmithy]

People, take one look at this attitude!!

Do not let people with a clear attitude problem tell you what you shouldn't be doing. We can all decide for ourselves! I can respect anybody's views and understand an individuals right to make the choice that is correct for them, unlike some people clearly.

Also i find it very contradictory of you to use the term 'so called fans' considering 8 weeks ago you wrote: i think next time id suggest maybe arranging things so there are a handfull of vocal protesters in every block of the stands that wouldnt hesitate at all in standing up and protesting even if nobody around him/her is, im sure other more hesitant people would then join in. Ysterday i was itchin to get up and protest but as nobody anywhere near me in the jack walker stand lower tier block wo2 was, i didnt have the balls as i was on my own and am not loud enough anyway.

So we arrange protests to be conducted in a safe manner outside of game hours and we are so called fan's, yet you can take the moral highground despite your desire to have people protesting during a match and disrupting the game?

:wacko:

8 weeks ago(your having a laugh :lol: ), the situations changed since the you manipulative fella, since then it has become completely clear that the organized protests have made a bad situation much much worst, back then Kean was the main focus but its now irrefutably clear that Kean is trying to make the best of what hes got with NO help from the real problem the venkys, also the groups of organized protesters have tarnished the rep of all rovers fans, some of the chants coming from the protesters in the darwen end at the Bolton game in particular where just pathetic offensive childish and completely unrelated the actual issues, the organized protests have basically just given a platform for the usual morons too mouth off and project their personal issues onto the manager(and innocent kids are just copying them).

this is just my view, im sorry if its wrong in places(its just even after all these months i find it hard too trust the organizers of the protests primary agenda).

[Stuart]

8 weeks ago(your having a laugh :lol: ), the situations changed since the you manipulative fella, since then it has become completely clear that the organized protests have made a bad situation much much worst, back then Kean was the main focus but its now irrefutably clear that Kean is trying to make the best of what hes got with NO help from the real problem the venkys, also the groups of organized protesters have tarnished the rep of all rovers fans, some of the chants coming from the protesters in the darwen end at the Bolton game in particular where just pathetic offensive childish and completely unrelated the actual issues, the organized protests have basically just given a platform for the usual morons too mouth off and project their personal issues onto the manager(and innocent kids are just copying them).

this is just my view, im sorry if its wrong in places(its just even after all these months i find it hard too trust the organizers of the protests primary agenda).

Not only is this a rude and insulting post, it's also way off the mark.

What is clear is that Kean is well out of his depth. The fact that Venkys aren't supporting him just adds insult to injury.

The organised protests were called off for the Bolton game so I can't see your point at all. What you saw was pure frustration from numbers far exceeding any that have attended any of the marches, so it isn't just protesters.

"Innocent kids just copying them". Do me a favour...

[mark1875]

8 weeks ago(your having a laugh :lol: ), the situations changed since the you manipulative fella, since then it has become completely clear that the organized protests have made a bad situation much much worst, back then Kean was the main focus but its now irrefutably clear that Kean is trying to make the best of what hes got with NO help from the real problem the venkys, also the groups of organized protesters have tarnished the rep of all rovers fans, some of the chants coming from the protesters in the darwen end at the Bolton game in particular where just pathetic offensive childish and completely unrelated the actual issues, the organized protests have basically just given a platform for the usual morons too mouth off and project their personal issues onto the manager(and innocent kids are just copying them).

this is just my view, im sorry if its wrong in places(its just even after all these months i find it hard too trust the organizers of the protests primary agenda).

Nothing manipulative, i am just reminding you that you're idea (December 4th) was to attempt to get the whole ground protesting during a match, which is exactly what eventually gave the supporters a bad name v Bolton! perfect plan that was.

The organized protests have made the situation much worse in what way? You have never attended one, bar the 3 games for £20 you give the impression you don't attend ewood regularly, so where have you formed this opinion from? second hand information?

Which 'organised' protest or protesters have tarnished the rep of all Rovers fan's? give an example?

You refer to the Bolton game when the protests were not organised, quite clearly spontaneous and involved thousands more than any organised protest could ever attract (something you suggested we organised, 8 weeks ago)

Name one organised protest, where any 'usual moron' has mouthed off? or caused any trouble for that matter? because i'm pretty sure the police will disagree with you! however they actually witness the event first hand where as you're just forming an opinion without actually seeing anything!!

You slate organised protests, then tell us how bad it was when they weren't organised? so not quite sure where you're going with that

Also you make reference to the fact Kean is getting on with his job with no help from the real problem Venky's? I know you clearly aren't upto date on your information however i thought everyone was aware by now that the protests against Kean had been halted and now address the real problem!

[Jamesw1982]

I think that everyone has a right to there say. There is no right or wrong here. BUT if you asked everyone who was at ewood park on a matchday if they want steve kean out and/or venkys out their would not be just 1% that people claim it to be.

We as protestors have a right to air our views and people may not like it, HOWEVER, the problem needs addressing before our club goes down the pan. We cannot sit back and watch it happen.

[Elvis McSmithy]

im a lifelong rovers fan(not a rovers protester), i go to games when i can afford it, but i live 5mins walk from ewood so little gets bye me, hope you get what you want out of the protests(whatever you believe that to be).

the bolton game was example the personal chants have happened at the 6 home games ive attended recently

Mods please take away my posting rites as i find it hard to resist trying to see reason in some of the folk on here and only end up antagonising them(there so sensitive).

[mark1875]

im a lifelong rovers fan(not a rovers protester), i go to games when i can afford it, but i live 5mins walk from ewood so little gets bye me, hope you get what you want out of the protests(whatever you believe that to be).

the bolton game was example the personal chants have happened at the 6 home games ive attended recently

Mods please take away my posting rites as i find it hard to resist trying to see reason in some of the folk on here and only end up antagonising them(there so sensitive).

Again there you go with your differentiating between a protester and a fan. We are all Rovers supporters, I have my beliefs and you have yours. I don't come on here slating you and criticizing you for just doing nothing and hoping it all blows over, why? because i am reasonable enough to accept that this is your choice.

The same as my choice is my choice. What i will not accept is people posting utter rubbish and discrediting the protests just because they don't agree with them. The organised protests have gone ahead in agreement with the police and with the club, both parties would sooner see these protests arranged with them as oppose to the alternative. All the organised protests have then been carried it with impeccable conduct and the police and the club will tell you this if you care to ring them.

I won't bite my tongue whilst those who have protested in all weathers, for the love for their football club get slated.

I don't wish to argue with people, i seldom do because i respect people's freedom of choice. However you will continue to antagonize people when you speak about them in a rude, offensive manner and speak untruth's. I would simply have ignored your post had you have not been rude, however i found it out of order and since i like to deal in facts as oppose to hear say, i responded on behalf of the protesters whom were being criticized unfairly.

I did ask you for examples in my last post, which could back up your 'claim's, however i didn't expect anything to come back, as i have witnessed all the 'organised protests' and your posts clearly showed you have not.

[glen9mullan]

Again there you go with your differentiating between a protester and a fan. We are all Rovers supporters, I have my beliefs and you have yours. I don't come on here slating you and criticizing you for just doing nothing and hoping it all blows over, why? because i am reasonable enough to accept that this is your choice.

The same as my choice is my choice. What i will not accept is people posting utter rubbish and discrediting the protests just because they don't agree with them. The organised protests have gone ahead in agreement with the police and with the club, both parties would sooner see these protests arranged with them as oppose to the alternative. All the organised protests have then be carried it with impeccable conduct and the police and the club will tell you this if you care to ring them.

I won't bite my tongue whilst those who have protested in all weathers, for the love for their football club get slated.

I don't wish to argue with people, i seldom do because i respect people's freedom of choice. However you will continue to antagonize people when you speak about them in a rude, offensive manner and speak untruth's. I would simply have ignored your post had you have not been rude, however i found it out of order and since i like to deal in facts as oppose to hear say, i responded on behalf of the protesters whom were being criticized unfairly.

I did ask you for examples in my last post, which could back up your 'claim's, however i didn't expect anything to come back, as i have witnessed all the 'organised protests' and your posts clearly showed you have not.

Totally agree, these digs come everytime we aint got a game, and then take up pages of the forums.

Bottom line is we aint going away, So despite the anti-protesters stance, they are just going to have to live with it, What we are doing we are doing for the right reasons, and I dont think we need to keep having to defend ourselves

Onwards and forwards