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They dont appear to add up at all. The fact that Kean was here way before Venky's/Kentaro arrived pretty much torpedoes all of those conspiracy stories.

Yesterday we were bad. I could accept playing well but losing to far better sides (Chelsea/Spurs/City) on the basis that when it came to playing beatable teams (Wigan/Stoke), we had to get results. We've now failed to beat Wolves, Norwich, Wigan, Stoke, Fulham and QPR. That is nowhere near good enough for a squad that is stronger then any of the squads we had under Allardyce. Kean has had his chance and he's blown it. Get him out.

Actually it adds credibilty. Work it out.

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Just watched the " Highlights " on match of the day. All three goals we conceded were really poor. The first was a needless free kick given away followed by a good ball in which one team attacked and one team didn't. The second our left back Givet ended up defending the right wing , he allowed a cross to come in because he's tackling with his wrong foot, our defenders were all too deep with nobody in or near the "D", resulting in a mad dash out which deflected the shot past Robinson. The third one was Sunday League defending, an ale house ball downfield leads to our " defender " jumping under the ball, Crouch gathers it and trickles the softest imaginable shot past Robinson. Poor , Poor, Poor. Brad Friedel would have just thrown his cap on the last one. It seems to me Robbo's form is feeling the pressure of conceding every week.

We've got to face facts, we look in large parts a beaten team that has no self belief and we certainly have NO idea how to defend as a unit. As soon as we go behind heads go down, and if by some miracle we go in front we have no idea how to keep the game tight and allow our opponents to blow themselves out in midfield. Hardly surprising given recents.

It goes without saying that we've reached the point were Kean will not turn this around, the loss of belief and confidence throughout the club is huge. It will take a new face and a new approach now, someone who isn't used to getting beaten every week. The problem is - who will come to Rovers in this position, and how will Venkies organise a suitable replacement' Maybe they'll ask Kean if he knows anybody.

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Yesterday highlighted how much we miss J. Jones and Phil Jones, Petrovic clearly isnt the man to fill that role and we REALLY NEED that midfield enforcer as well as two full backs and another striker.

Also for all the KLC, stop pointing out how many goals we are scoring or the "great" football we are playing!! Yes we are scoring more than we did under Big Sam but ANY team can score more goals and look more attacking if it totally abandons its defensive duties, which Kean has got us doing!! Our defencive record speaks for itself, its an absolute joke just like our manager. Im going to the next three home matches and if we dont get at least 7 points from those 3 games I hope venkys sack him or he does the decent thing and quits!

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We've now failed to beat Wolves, Norwich, Wigan, Stoke, Fulham and QPR. That is nowhere near good enough for a squad that is stronger then any of the squads we had under Allardyce.

We are not a good side at all and results and league placing tell no lies.As you say we have miserably failed to beat any of the above run of the mill sides,we dont score enough goals and concede them like nobody else..what chance do we have anymore?.

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They dont appear to add up at all. The fact that Kean was here way before Venky's/Kentaro arrived pretty much torpedoes all of those conspiracy stories.

Yesterday we were bad. I could accept playing well but losing to far better sides (Chelsea/Spurs/City) on the basis that when it came to playing beatable teams (Wigan/Stoke), we had to get results. We've now failed to beat Wolves, Norwich, Wigan, Stoke, Fulham and QPR. That is nowhere near good enough for a squad that is stronger then any of the squads we had under Allardyce. Kean has had his chance and he's blown it. Get him out.

Kean has had more cash than Sam to spend but I fail to see how our squad is better.. imo it is far worse.

Simon, Rochina and Formica - 3 players for a position which is already occupied by arguably out best player and certainly in the cases of Rochina and Simon pretty selfish little players

Jnr on the verge of leaving

Givet and Samba have both have had knocks this season

Peders and Nzonzi seem to be more inconsistent than I have ever seen them

PJ and JJ far better than anything we have in midfield at the moment

Kalinic much better than Goodwillie

Emerton, Diouf and even Andrews played bigger parts, they at least put in a proper shift on the pitch

Salgado, Nelsen and Dunny all aging badly

Dann ok he is a good long term replacement for Nelsen but has been injured at least twice already and not looked the player he was last season

Petrovic was never going to settle quickly

Yakuba not really given a chance as we simply cant get the ball in midfield

Bruno and Myles.. why did we sign them

Slew not even pushing Blackman who has been cosistently poor

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We are not a good side at all and results and league placing tell no lies.As you say we have miserably failed to beat any of the above run of the mill sides,we dont score enough goals and concede them like nobody else..what chance do we have anymore?.

Talent wise we're middle of the pack. It's the inept coaching and managing that means we're going to be relegated.

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I went to the game yesterday and whichever way you look at it the future is looking very grim for BRFC. Police said we sold 370 of our 1800 allocation. The atmosphere at the ground was poisonous. I had my "Kean Out" banner took off me before I got in the ground. The Stoke stewards were great about it but they said they were under strict orders to not let anti-Kean banners in the ground after a special request from Rovers. They said any banner that didn't make reference to Kean was fine. When someone did pull an anti-Kean/Venky's banner out during the game I swear about 20 stewards came running up the steps like he had just pulled a machete out. The Stoke stewards and police were really sound but they seemed to be being lead by some guy at the front in a Rovers suit. Does anybody know who this jobsworth is? He is an absolute disgrace. I spoke to him at half time and asked him what his job was. He said he was there so when people like me got arrested he would try and get the police to drop the charges. I couldn't believe what the guy was saying. Arrested for what? I told him that if the police wanted to arrest me for singing "Kean out" then I would be happy to defend myself. Even the policeman stood next to him was laughing at him. The people who are in power at Rovers have lost their grip on reality. Confirmed after the game when Kean was interviewed. It is having a grave effect on the atmosphere at games now. One Rovers fan threw a punch at Birdy and Tez Crawford off Ewood Blues bus after the game after a heated argument about the state of our club. It is not the people with Kean Out banners and singing songs that are the problem it is those that continue to ignore what the fans are saying. When is all this going to come to an end?

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I went to the game yesterday and whichever way you look at it the future is looking very grim for BRFC. Police said we sold 370 of our 1800 allocation. The atmosphere at the ground was poisonous. I had my "Kean Out" banner took off me before I got in the ground. The Stoke stewards were great about it but they said they were under strict orders to not let anti-Kean banners in the ground after a special request from Rovers. They said any banner that didn't make reference to Kean was fine. When someone did pull an anti-Kean/Venky's banner out during the game I swear about 20 stewards came running up the steps like he had just pulled a machete out. The Stoke stewards and police were really sound but they seemed to be being lead by some guy at the front in a Rovers suit. Does anybody know who this jobsworth is? He is an absolute disgrace. I spoke to him at half time and asked him what his job was. He said he was there so when people like me got arrested he would try and get the police to drop the charges. I couldn't believe what the guy was saying. Arrested for what? I told him that if the police wanted to arrest me for singing "Kean out" then I would be happy to defend myself. Even the policeman stood next to him was laughing at him. The people who are in power at Rovers have lost their grip on reality. Confirmed after the game when Kean was interviewed. It is having a grave effect on the atmosphere at games now. One Rovers fan threw a punch at Birdy and Tez Crawford off Ewood Blues bus after the game after a heated argument about the state of our club. It is not the people with Kean Out banners and singing songs that are the problem it is those that continue to ignore what the fans are saying. When is all this going to come to an end?

I think sycophants like PA and others have a lot of explaining to do.

The wheels are falling off at Rovers. It's only a matter of time before the explosion.

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When is all this going to come to an end?

When we have a proper manager in charge.

It could be a long wait though and we have to lose our PL place in the process by the look of things.

I think Venkys seem to think that they have plenty of time left and, when they press the panic button, we'll get someone in who will win all of our remaining games and keep us up. I really believe they think it's that easy.

Sadly by the time they decide to act it will be too late for Mourinho to turn it around.

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Does anybody know who the guy in the Rovers suit at yesterday's game is? I have just had a look at Paul Agnew's picture on the net and it wasn't him. This bloke was mid-40's, slight build, hairdo that was probably last in fashion when we won the league. He told me that this was just a part-time job, he was an engineer in Bolton during the week. He was flanked by a big short haired/bald guy? He was so arrogant and angry. He was staring out Rovers fans all game. I have never noticed anyone from Rovers doing this at away games before. It was just so unnecessary.

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Does anybody know who the guy in the Rovers suit at yesterday's game is? I have just had a look at Paul Agnew's picture on the net and it wasn't him. This bloke was mid-40's, slight build, hairdo that was probably last in fashion when we won the league. He told me that this was just a part-time job, he was an engineer in Bolton during the week. He was flanked by a big short haired/bald guy? He was so arrogant and angry. He was staring out Rovers fans all game. I have never noticed anyone from Rovers doing this at away games before. It was just so unnecessary.

I don't know his name, but he is with the Rovers fans in the same way for every single away game.

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Does anybody know who the guy in the Rovers suit at yesterday's game is? I have just had a look at Paul Agnew's picture on the net and it wasn't him. This bloke was mid-40's, slight build, hairdo that was probably last in fashion when we won the league. He told me that this was just a part-time job, he was an engineer in Bolton during the week. He was flanked by a big short haired/bald guy? He was so arrogant and angry. He was staring out Rovers fans all game. I have never noticed anyone from Rovers doing this at away games before. It was just so unnecessary.

Sounds like the types to enjoy being brown shirts.

A wise old lawyer once told me, "the insignificant bureaucrats are the pettiest tyrants."

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Does anybody know who the guy in the Rovers suit at yesterday's game is? I have just had a look at Paul Agnew's picture on the net and it wasn't him. This bloke was mid-40's, slight build, hairdo that was probably last in fashion when we won the league. He told me that this was just a part-time job, he was an engineer in Bolton during the week. He was flanked by a big short haired/bald guy? He was so arrogant and angry. He was staring out Rovers fans all game. I have never noticed anyone from Rovers doing this at away games before. It was just so unnecessary.

This is how the new Rovers treat their own fans.

Then we have thickos trying to defend it, and throwing punches at other fans.

Grim times.

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Does anybody know who the guy in the Rovers suit at yesterday's game is? I have just had a look at Paul Agnew's picture on the net and it wasn't him. This bloke was mid-40's, slight build, hairdo that was probably last in fashion when we won the league. He told me that this was just a part-time job, he was an engineer in Bolton during the week. He was flanked by a big short haired/bald guy? He was so arrogant and angry. He was staring out Rovers fans all game. I have never noticed anyone from Rovers doing this at away games before. It was just so unnecessary.

I would say that sounds like John Newsham.... He is a real jobs worth and a very sad man. My best mate had to have a meeting with him to get his season ticket back for making comments regarding Steve Kean....

Grade A w@nker.

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Does anybody know who the guy in the Rovers suit at yesterday's game is? I have just had a look at Paul Agnew's picture on the net and it wasn't him. This bloke was mid-40's, slight build, hairdo that was probably last in fashion when we won the league. He told me that this was just a part-time job, he was an engineer in Bolton during the week. He was flanked by a big short haired/bald guy? He was so arrogant and angry. He was staring out Rovers fans all game. I have never noticed anyone from Rovers doing this at away games before. It was just so unnecessary.

Photo anyone?

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I would say that sounds like John Newsham....

John is a full time Rovers employee.

I have no idea who the person in question is, although there is a chap of a similar description and attitude occasionally to be seen in the front corner of NO1 where the stand joins the Jack Walker stand.

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Newsman is a prick I saw him at Wigan game and asked him if he likes kean I got a reply of "nice try thicko trot on" in which in all honestly I replied with "your an overweight sad uneducated STEWARD" to which he replied "haha trot on with your sad little protest".

That is no word of a lie

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Kean has had more cash than Sam to spend but I fail to see how our squad is better.. imo it is far worse.

Simon, Rochina and Formica - 3 players for a position which is already occupied by arguably out best player and certainly in the cases of Rochina and Simon pretty selfish little players

Jnr on the verge of leaving

Givet and Samba have both have had knocks this season

Peders and Nzonzi seem to be more inconsistent than I have ever seen them

PJ and JJ far better than anything we have in midfield at the moment

Kalinic much better than Goodwillie

Emerton, Diouf and even Andrews played bigger parts, they at least put in a proper shift on the pitch

Salgado, Nelsen and Dunny all aging badly

Dann ok he is a good long term replacement for Nelsen but has been injured at least twice already and not looked the player he was last season

Petrovic was never going to settle quickly

Yakuba not really given a chance as we simply cant get the ball in midfield

Bruno and Myles.. why did we sign them

Slew not even pushing Blackman who has been cosistently poor

Jnr is playing far bigger role. He is the ONLY positive of the Kean era. Allardyce hardly played him.

Phil Jones and Emerton have been badly missed. But we've added Rochina, Yakubu, Dann, Formica and Vukcevic. In terms of sheer options, we're better off. Dont start telling me that Andrews or Kalinic added anything. Yakubu has already done more then Kalinic ever did.

Id still maintain that the players we have at the minute are reasonably decent and its a lack of organisation thats failing us. We're actually scoring goals, I think only the top 4/5 have scored more away from home. Its defensively where we're very very poor and that is where Kean's lack of organisation comes in.

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I went to the game yesterday and whichever way you look at it the future is looking very grim for BRFC. Police said we sold 370 of our 1800 allocation. The atmosphere at the ground was poisonous. I had my "Kean Out" banner took off me before I got in the ground. The Stoke stewards were great about it but they said they were under strict orders to not let anti-Kean banners in the ground after a special request from Rovers. They said any banner that didn't make reference to Kean was fine. When someone did pull an anti-Kean/Venky's banner out during the game I swear about 20 stewards came running up the steps like he had just pulled a machete out. The Stoke stewards and police were really sound but they seemed to be being lead by some guy at the front in a Rovers suit. Does anybody know who this jobsworth is? He is an absolute disgrace. I spoke to him at half time and asked him what his job was. He said he was there so when people like me got arrested he would try and get the police to drop the charges. I couldn't believe what the guy was saying. Arrested for what? I told him that if the police wanted to arrest me for singing "Kean out" then I would be happy to defend myself. Even the policeman stood next to him was laughing at him. The people who are in power at Rovers have lost their grip on reality. Confirmed after the game when Kean was interviewed. It is having a grave effect on the atmosphere at games now. One Rovers fan threw a punch at Birdy and Tez Crawford off Ewood Blues bus after the game after a heated argument about the state of our club. It is not the people with Kean Out banners and singing songs that are the problem it is those that continue to ignore what the fans are saying. When is all this going to come to an end?

Unbelievable,absolutely ####### unbelievable! :angry:

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