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[magicalmortensleftpeg]

But that's the trap you (and others) fall into, mate.

To paraphrase John Coffey, "he's using our love for our club against us".

Win, lose or draw, he has to go. I've never known anyone affiliated with the club be so hated.

NO ONE wants Kean here, NO ONE wants to see Kean continue to manage this football club. Just because you dont take part in any protests doesnt mean you're in FAVOUR of Kean. I think some of the protesters need to realise that.

From my perspective, up until today I was genuinely looking forward to the abuse Venkys were going to get. But when the first few KEAN OUT chants came up I have to say I felt embarrassed, in particular when we were winning. I know Kean is hated by the vast majority but the reason he's in the position he's in and the reason for why he's still there is VENKYS. They should be the object of any chants. I dont think singling Kean out for 90 mins of abuse is the right move.

To hear Rovers fans after the game still chanting for the manager to be sacked when we had just won looked stupid. 5Live were at the stadium and even though I totally sympathise with the protesters point of view, I just dont know whether abusing the manager when we win is the smartest tactic.

For the protests to be taken seriously they need to be respected by the national media and other neutrals otherwise Venkys will just ignore them. To see us win yet have the fans still chanting for the managers head doesn't look good. I dont know what the answer is, but Id like to see the protests being aimed firmly at Venkys and not totally at Kean.

[booth]

I dont think singling Kean out for 90 mins of abuse is the right move.

That's alright then because it didn't happen. You made it up.

To hear Rovers fans after the game still chanting for the manager to be sacked when we had just won looked stupid.

What because they care about the club, the bigger picture?

They would have looked stupid if they hadn't carried on the protest, and very very fickle.

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

Chanting Kean out IS supporting the players and the club.

Isn't that blatantly obvious?

No. I dont think it helps at all. Surely Venkys are the biggest problem we have?? Isn't it their stubbornness and determination to keep Kean as manager is the major problem?? I genuinely dont think chanting for the manager, a guy who is clearly liked by the players, to be sacked helps matters, and furthermore, looks rather stupid when we win.

[oozy]

This is how I think it will pan out,

14.59: Minutes silence for Gary Speed

15.00: Applause and songs there is only one Gary speed for around 5 Minutes

15;05: Kean out flowing from three sides of the ground, with stand up if you want Kean out

15:15: Rovers go 1-0 up Crowd starts singing Barmy Army

15:28: Rovers bag a second 2-0 and renditions on the great escape and more pro rovers songs

15.42: Swansea pull one back 2-1 and a few more chants of Kean out

15.45: Half time pie and pint, talk of Swansea getting another goal and hammering another nail in coffin

16.00: Second half starts to Rovers til I die

16.18: 2-2 Swansea equalise, and chants of Kean out start again

16.25: Kean makes double substitution to chants of you don't know what you are doing

16.29: Rovers score 3-2 Barmy Army chants

16.40 Rovers make game safe 4-2, Kean running up and down touchline, crowd going wild, Kean lapping it up

16.50 Whistle goes and players do lap of honour which Kean joins in, mass round of applause from crowd,

16.55 Majority of crowd gone home, thinking things are all rosie again, pleased to be treated to four goals

17.00 a small number have fans have gathered for Sit in , not enough to make a difference as one result has turned a 99% Majority wanting Kean out to people thinking we have turned the corner and he can now have more time.

17.05: Kean claims he was right to leave players out against Cardiff, and that the team are working for each other and giving him everything, he says a small minority have stayed behind but nothing will please the small negative one's. He says the owners are 100% behind him and he knows the budget for Saturday. He says that they need to get the momentum, and players are due back from injury

17.30: Sit in crowd go home feeling they are stuck with Kean, and another chance to have him removed has gone begging

Rovers go another 5-6 games without winning and relegation then beoomes a formaility

This is scenario one and the one I see more likely, Fans can be fickle on one result

Scenario two and the best scenario is all of above, but supporters do stay behind after the match and show Kean and Venkys that we have had enough and Kean needs to go now and Venkys need to sell up

Bottom line I'm confident we will win match on Saturday, but not confident enough supporters will show their opinion towards Kean and Venkys

Just reading up on the post/pre match comments and came across this! Does this guy have a crystal ball?

[Stuart]

NO ONE wants Kean here, NO ONE wants to see Kean continue to manage this football club. Just because you dont take part in any protests doesnt mean you're in FAVOUR of Kean. I think some of the protesters need to realise that.

Are you deliberately missing the point?

KEAN IS USING THAT AGAINST YOU TO MAINTAIN HIS "MINORITY" ARGUMENT!!

[booth]

No. I dont think it helps at all. Surely Venkys are the biggest problem we have?? Isn't it their stubbornness and determination to keep Kean as manager is the major problem?? I genuinely dont think chanting for the manager, a guy who is clearly liked by the players, to be sacked helps matters, and furthermore, looks rather stupid when we win.

That's because you haven't a bloody clue. You sit there in Brighton phoning in your opinions. Get up to Blackburn, pay your money, take in some of the atmosphere, and then see who looks stupid.

[Stuart]

Just reading up on the post/pre match comments and came across this! Does this guy have a crystal ball?

Wasn't far off was he?

[booth]

Are you deliberately missing the point?

KEAN IS USING THAT AGAINST YOU TO MAINTAIN HIS "MINORITY" ARGUMENT!!

Kean's "majority" doesn't seem to actually go to any of the bleeding games.

[Tom]

Was anyone else scared that Kean was going to get booed when he brought the wreath out?

Anyone in the Darwen End catch what was going on after their second?

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

That's alright then because it didn't happen. You made it up.

What because they care about the club, the bigger picture?

They would have looked stupid if they hadn't carried on the protest, and very very fickle.

Made it up??

I fully understand the protesters point of view I just dont particularly agree that chanting for Kean to be sacked throughout the game and afterwards regardless of the result, helps anyone. Venky's aren't going to sack him because he's unpopular, because if so he would have gone last summer. The only way he's going to get sacked is if we lose games. But even having lost to championship opposition, he's remained as manager.

Now, obviously, its tempting to therefore hope that we lose every fixture until he's sacked but by that time we'll probably be cast adrift at the bottom of the table and no new manager could get us out.

I think Venky's will find any reason to keep him on and there was no guarantee that losing today would have cost Kean his job.

Basically for the protests to be effective, the national media need to take them seriously. I dont think protesting after matches that we've won will look very good and Im also not sure that only targeting Kean is the right way to go about it either.

That's because you haven't a bloody clue. You sit there in Brighton phoning in your opinions. Get up to Blackburn, pay your money, take in some of the atmosphere, and then see who looks stupid.

'Phoning in your opinions'??

Ive driven up to stay in Blackburn about a dozen times this year from Brighton (costs money by the way) not to mention the away trips.

Jesus, to resort to that is pathetic.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Made it up??

I fully understand the protesters point of view I just dont particularly agree that chanting for Kean to be sacked throughout the game and afterwards regardless of the result, helps anyone. Venky's aren't going to sack him because he's unpopular, because if so he would have gone last summer. The only way he's going to get sacked is if we lose games. But even having lost to championship opposition, he's remained as manager.

Now, obviously, its tempting to therefore hope that we lose every fixture until he's sacked but by that time we'll probably be cast adrift at the bottom of the table and no new manager could get us out.

I think Venky's will find any reason to keep him on and there was no guarantee that losing today would have cost Kean his job.

Basically for the protests to be effective, the national media need to take them seriously. I dont think protesting after matches that we've won will look very good and Im also not sure that only targeting Kean is the right way to go about it either.

So basically we sit there like lemons and take the crap as our club implodes?.....what do you REALISTICALLY expect the fans reactions to be?

Protesting either before,during or after matches REGARDLESS of the result is a united front and a show of unity from the supporters that they will NOT except Kean and the present shambles....its not hard to understand!

When did we ever have to cow tow to the media to make a point?,the same media who have always been more than happy to kick our fine club from pillar to post at any opportunity

[RovertheHill]

I am getting fed up of reading people on here, twitter, let etc saying we booed yak running to Kean, when the booing didnt start until Yak had gone and Kean turned round and fist pumped towards the BBE a few times. But then people like twisting things for their own agenda.

The booing started at precisely the moment Yak high-fived Kean, not when he had gone away. Twisting agenda's hmmm.

Thought that was an own goal really

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

To hear Rovers fans after the game still chanting for the manager to be sacked when we had just won looked stupid. 5Live were at the stadium and even though I totally sympathise with the protesters point of view, I just dont know whether abusing the manager when we win is the smartest tactic.

For the protests to be taken seriously they need to be respected by the national media and other neutrals otherwise Venkys will just ignore them. To see us win yet have the fans still chanting for the managers head doesn't look good. I dont know what the answer is, but Id like to see the protests being aimed firmly at Venkys and not totally at Kean.

Disagree. During the Wigan game the Rovers fans were ridiculed by the media for stopping the chanting when we equalised 2-2 only to start again when we were losing. They were labelled 'fickle'.

The media will never be happy. For me the chanting during and after sent out a message to Kean/Venkys. That's what matters, not what 5 live think.

Yes it was a much needed win but jesus, it's one win against a Premier league newcomer, with few talented players, who still dominated possession against us. Changes nothing IMO.

The consensus all around me BBE No6 was that he still had to go, even at 4-2.

[RoyRover]

I'm delighted with the result, with Yakubu getting four goals and getting three precious points. I'm not happy that this will give Kean more time in the job.

[longsiders1882]

A surprising number of Burnley fans were hoping you'd win today, in the belief that had you lost Kean may have been closer to the sack whilst a win and possibly one more before new year keeps him in a job.

No idea whether this will represent a corner turned for you or not, we've enough of our own problems occupying me at the moment but so far ALL Burnley fans are delighted with the work of Kean and Venky's

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

we've enough of our own problems occupying me at the moment but so far ALL Burnley fans are delighted with the work of Kean and Venky's

And a two fingered salute to you Longsider!

[adsfortheblues]

A surprising number of Burnley fans were hoping you'd win today, in the belief that had you lost Kean may have been closer to the sack whilst a win and possibly one more before new year keeps him in a job.

No idea whether this will represent a corner turned for you or not, we've enough of our own problems occupying me at the moment but so far ALL Burnley fans are delighted with the work of Kean and Venky's

Unfortunately for burnley football club there back down to their measley crowds in the championship, they have a 6 year old manager who will never become anything, mostly rejects from other clubs and unfortunately still awaiting a victory against the mighty blues 33 years on.

So really I do sympathise with you, your right we have it bad but god damn it you always seem to beat us in this area, you know the "being ######" one, damn you!

[longsiders1882]

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And a two fingered salute to you Longsider!

Cheers SG. The only real annoyance about all this is that my own club appears to be in complete disarray also, meaning we are perhaps as likely to get relegated as you are ( though 3 wins on the bounce have somewhat calmed my nerves )

[matt83]

the 1st time the whole of the blackburn and darwen end stood up, half the walkersteel and none of the jack walker. 2nd time about 3 quarters of that and then the 3rd, 4th and 5th time it dwindled but that was because we had started watching the match because we felt it could be won not because we dont want kean out

I sit in the jack walker and on the first stand up if you hate steve kean it look as though nearly everyone in bburn end/darwen end stood up and looked like quuite a few in riverside but in jw literally only a few of us.

Looked like a right t!t stood up on our own but the thing that annoys me everyone around us says kean needs to go get him out now, etc, etc, but can’t even be arsed to stand up, and as a result, kean counts them as fans who want him in by default.

Suppose sitting amongst this unforgivable apathy is the price we have to pay for having a side on view of the pitch without pillars everywhere.

ps. out of curiosity does anyone know who last rovers player was to score 4 in a game my memory doesn't go that far back?

[longsiders1882]

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Unfortunately for burnley football club there back down to their measley crowds in the championship, they have a 6 year old manager who will never become anything, mostly rejects from other clubs and unfortunately still awaiting a victory against the mighty blues 33 years on.

So really I do sympathise with you, your right we have it bad but god damn it you always seem to beat us in this area, you know the "being ######" one, damn you!

So true. Give Venky's a few years and you could well be back down to your pre Jack measly crowds but if crowds are all that matters then we should all go and support Man U or one of the other 'big' clubs .

Anyway this is one MB poster who's pleased to see agent Kean in charge down the M65

[Darwen Rover]

His guys have noticing alot of fan division at the ground important we stay UNITED in that we VALUE OPINIONS

[philipl]

No. I dont think it helps at all. Surely Venkys are the biggest problem we have?? Isn't it their stubbornness and determination to keep Kean as manager is the major problem?? I genuinely dont think chanting for the manager, a guy who is clearly liked by the players, to be sacked helps matters, and furthermore, looks rather stupid when we win.

He is NOT liked by the players.

And far from looking stupid when we win, it just demonstrates the passion of Rovers' support and our determination not to have an incompetent lying moron in the dug out.

[Stuart]

So true. Give Venky's a few years and you could well be back down to your pre Jack measly crowds but if crowds are all that matters then we should all go and support Man U or one of the other 'big' clubs .

Anyway this is one MB poster who's pleased to see agent Kean in charge down the M65

C'mon, you're normally a good poster, don't become the cliché.

[Gav]

A surprising number of Burnley fans were hoping you'd win today, in the belief that had you lost Kean may have been closer to the sack whilst a win and possibly one more before new year keeps him in a job.

No idea whether this will represent a corner turned for you or not, we've enough of our own problems occupying me at the moment but so far ALL Burnley fans are delighted with the work of Kean and Venky's

Who asked for your opinion?

Sod off back to the land that time forgot, which is exactly where you’ve been since was thumped you at your place, out sung and out supported you

[Kiwiwannabe]

ps. out of curiosity does anyone know who last rovers player was to score 4 in a game my memory doesn't go that far back?

I can't find once since Simon Garner scored 4 in a 6-1 win at home to Sunderland in September 1986. Been a long time...