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[McClarky]

  On 04/12/2011 at 18:42, glen9mullan said:

From where I was sat in blackburn end, the stand up if you want Kean out was loud and it looked like most of the stadium

The whole of the DE was up on it's feet for that 1 as well.

[Lathund]

  On 04/12/2011 at 19:24, glen9mullan said:

Whats bad about them? They are facts, Swansea have the worst away record in the prem this season

That part is a fact, but it's not a fact that it was their first two away goals.

[scotty_beam_me_up]

  On 04/12/2011 at 19:36, McClarky said:

The whole of the DE was up on it's feet for that 1 as well.

I was in the Darwen End and I wasn't stood up. Respect the protest but booing when we scored was a disgrace.

[Commondore]

  On 04/12/2011 at 18:21, jim mk2 said:

Even with a better manager I still think this Rovers team will struggle to survive - quite simply it isn't strong enough and certainly not as good as Bolton, Wolves, Sunderland and Fulham. We have big weaknesses in midfield and defence and cannot keep a clean sheet - a prerequisite for survival. Much as I enjoyed the win yesterday it only glosses over our problems.

We are one manager and one defensive midfielder from being a pretty decent team IMO. Bolton are horrible this year, and I'd say we are about level with Wolves at this point in time. Sunderland and Fulham have stronger squads and better form though.

[Mattyblue]

  On 04/12/2011 at 19:42, scotty_beam_me_up said:

I was in the Darwen End and I wasn't stood up. Respect the protest but booing when we scored was a disgrace.

Goal- cheers.

Yakubu sets off- cheers

Yakubu reaches Kean- cheers

Kean turns to Blackburn End, fists pumping- boos.

Is the goal and its scorer being booed?

[Pedro]

  On 04/12/2011 at 19:49, Mattyblue said:

Goal- cheers.

Yakubu sets off- cheers

Yakubu reaches Kean- cheers

Kean turns to Blackburn End, fists pumping- boos.

Is the goal and its scorer being booed?

In fairness Matty, in hindsight the footage on MOTD or SSN showed that Kean didn't even look towards the BBurn end, he was just looking towards the players. I also felt that the fans booed as Yakubu was celebrating with Kean.

[Blue n White Rover]

  On 04/12/2011 at 19:49, Mattyblue said:

Goal- cheers.

Yakubu sets off- cheers

Yakubu reaches Kean- cheers

Kean turns to Blackburn End, fists pumping- boos.

Is the goal and its scorer being booed?

If you look at it again, he turns to Yakubu with his fists pumping as Yak ran past him, not towards the Blackburn End.

Even if he did, is he not allowed to celebrate a goal and turn to the loudest area of the ground?

Boo before the game - fine

Boo after the game - fine

Boo during the game - stupid.

I want Kean out as much as everyone else does, but it does not mean I condone the booing during the game. It was stupid and only affected our players, and also hindered our slender lead at 1 point.

Surprised people weren't booing the ref when Allen got sent off!

[scotty_beam_me_up]

  On 04/12/2011 at 19:49, Mattyblue said:

Goal- cheers.

Yakubu sets off- cheers

Yakubu reaches Kean- cheers

Kean turns to Blackburn End, fists pumping- boos.

Is the goal and its scorer being booed?

I understand why there were boos but to the media and outside world it looks crazy. I hate Lawro but he picked up on it and the Journos on Sunday Supplement also laughed at it. To get him sacked the media need to be onside. They were starting to get behind the protest this week but moments like that give Kean the sympathy vote.

[Kelbo]

  On 04/12/2011 at 18:35, yeti-dog said:

You sure about that??

plussed it by mistake!!

Are you sure?

Progress is being made or the clubs employees are following the Kean Venky line of Lies, Lies and more lies!!

As for players wanting to leave, I just wish sometimes I could post what I here, I dont because of clowns on here who knock people who do post genuine things, yet confidentiality prevents them from qualifying their comments!!

I will say this though, Sav is close to a few players and he is not wrong with his comments!

[Roversider]

  On 04/12/2011 at 19:49, Mattyblue said:

Goal- cheers.

Yakubu sets off- cheers

Yakubu reaches Kean- cheers

Kean turns to Blackburn End, fists pumping- boos.

Is the goal and its scorer being booed?

Matty, I sit very close to the dugouts and the boos started about 5 metres before Yakubu reached Kean, they may have increased afterwards but those who booed missed the point. Yakubu chose to run the length of the pitch to celebrate with Kean. It might hurt the opinions of some people who allude to Kean being disliked by the players but like it or not the Yak clearly isn't one of them. That seems to my eyes the same for several of the players and their relationship with Kean.

As for people who say 'we were only booing Kean', sorry but that is like saying everyone can mind-read everyone else. Booing and not cheering after we scored a goal? Come on, in my view that is the height of bad taste and whilst I am totally convinced of how much the protestors love Rovers there is a point where the hatred of Kean is counting for more than love of the team. Not only is that sad its also very unhealthy and will continue to drive a wedge between the fans.

[Mattyblue]

This is a horrendous situation, did I ever think that we would end up like this at Ewood Park?

People at breaking point and it is not surprisng that match day is so fraught.

Post game, most peeople bugger off, that's if they merely dislike or rabidly hate Kean- so, not much chance of letting Kean know there.

We are not going to be 2, 3 down every home game- so only dissenting when such a scenario is reached is not always an option.

So, people are taking their chance during the game, it doesn't to be affecting the players to me, and nobody can put the lid on a fevered crowd.

It is a dereliction of duty from the owners that this has allowed to go on and on and by god have they got off lightly.

[booth]

  On 04/12/2011 at 19:56, Pedro said:

In fairness Matty, in hindsight the footage on MOTD or SSN showed that Kean didn't even look towards the BBurn end, he was just looking towards the players. I also felt that the fans booed as Yakubu was celebrating with Kean.

The boo actually came when Kean appeared on the big screen didn't it?

[Mattyblue]

  On 04/12/2011 at 19:57, scotty_beam_me_up said:

I understand why there were boos but to the media and outside world it looks crazy. I hate Lawro but he picked up on it and the Journos on Sunday Supplement also laughed at it. To get him sacked the media need to be onside. They were starting to get behind the protest this week but moments like that give Kean the sympathy vote.

Yet, we got criticsed for only getting at Kean when we were losing at Wigan, 'do they want him out or not'.

Bugger the media, they are a bunch of hypocrites with short term memory loss. He was mercilessly mocked last week and us fans were getting much sympathy, now it has completely reversed.

divide and conquer.

[Amo]

  On 04/12/2011 at 20:06, Mattyblue said:

Yet, we got criticsed for only getting at Kean when we were losing at Wigan, 'do they want him out or not'.

Bugger the media, they are a bunch of hypocrites with short term memory loss. He was mercilessly mocked last week and us fans were getting much sympathy, now it has completely reversed.

divide and conquer.

Precisely, the media don't know **** about what's going on at Rovers.

Some of the crap we've had to endure from so-called "professionals" has been incredible. Remember, this is the same club who were called racist for sacking Ince, when we were the FIRST CLUB TO HIRE A BLACK PL MANAGER.

They'll be pleased to see the back of us.

I'm glad people decided to boo during the game. At least they're making a stand, unlike the happy-clappers who switch allegiances on the drop of a hat.

[booth]

  On 04/12/2011 at 19:57, scotty_beam_me_up said:

I understand why there were boos but to the media and outside world it looks crazy. I hate Lawro but he picked up on it and the Journos on Sunday Supplement also laughed at it. To get him sacked the media need to be onside. They were starting to get behind the protest this week but moments like that give Kean the sympathy vote.

Kean has got the sympathy vote this week because the media is fickle and we won. If we lose to Sunderland, what happened yesterday will be forgotten and he'll get it in the neck again. That's why he's been milking it for all it's worth.

If the fans hadn't have shown some disapproval yesterday they would have been shown up as fickle too, and no doubt the media would have mocked us about that. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't is the phrase that comes to mind.

The media and outside world mean nothing as they couldn't give a monkeys about the club. It's just a story to them. The fans care and they can only do what they believe is right as individuals. Some agree with the protests, some do not. Some agree with booing and some do not. They'll never all agree on what to do collectively. That's life.

I'm not entirely convinced that what happened yesterday was entirely the result of the organized protest if I'm honest. What happened yesterday seemed to be a reaction to what happened mid-week.

[imy9]

  On 04/12/2011 at 20:11, Topman said:

Precisely, the media don't know **** about what's going on at Rovers.

Some of the crap we've had to endure from so-called "professionals" has been incredible. Remember, this is the same club who were called racist for sacking Ince, when we were the FIRST CLUB TO HIRE A BLACK PL MANAGER.

They'll be pleased to see the back of us.

I'm glad people decided to boo during the game. At least they're making a stand, unlike the happy-clappers who switch allegiances on the drop of a hat.

I take exception to the last part, 'switch allegiances'? We all want Rovers to succeed, how does booing after we score a goal to go 1-0 up making a stand? You could hear the boos on MOTD as Yak is reaching Kean, it's the right of the people to do so but because people chose to cheer instead of boo when we scored does not make them 'Rovers Fans'

[Pedro]

  On 04/12/2011 at 20:11, Topman said:

Precisely, the media don't know **** about what's going on at Rovers.

Some of the crap we've had to endure from so-called "professionals" has been incredible. Remember, this is the same club who were called racist for sacking Ince, when we were the FIRST CLUB TO HIRE A BLACK PL MANAGER.

They'll be pleased to see the back of us.

I'm glad people decided to boo during the game. At least they're making a stand, unlike the happy-clappers who switch allegiances on the drop of a hat.

We were the first if you care to forget Ruud Gullit and Jean Tigana

[47er]

  On 04/12/2011 at 12:48, BuckyRover said:

I don't think you can say there weren't Kean out chants throughout the match.

So what? that's good isn't it? Total consistency.

We are not going to be put off by the score at any point in one game, we want him out !

[Amo]

  On 04/12/2011 at 20:17, imy9 said:

I take exception to the last part, 'switch allegiances'? We all want Rovers to succeed, how does booing after we score a goal to go 1-0 up making a stand? You could hear the boos on MOTD as Yak is reaching Kean, it's the right of the people to do so but because people chose to cheer instead of boo when we scored does not make them 'Rovers Fans'

I doubt fans were booing the goal. It had to be the sight of Kean givin' it large that riled them up. The players have always had the support of the protesters.

I bet my bottom dollar there were fans prepared to protest after the game but went home happy because we won, Imy. That's the kinda fan I'm talking about, not to mention those who creep out the woodwork once we dare win a game.

But hey, I wanted us to lose, anyway, 'cause I knew this would happen. No doubt Kean will be on Sky Sports all week milking this giant killing for all its worth.

[Blue n White Rover]

  On 04/12/2011 at 20:11, Topman said:

I'm glad people decided to boo during the game. At least they're making a stand, unlike the happy-clappers who switch allegiances on the drop of a hat.

If we had won, and we still had protestors after the game, you would have made the same point. However, booing during the game affected the players more than it did Kean.

So I'll ask again, what was the logic behind booing the team when we scored to make it 1-0? When they equalised? When they scored their second and the score was at 3-2?

Rovers win, then protest. Fine by me. That to any outsider would show that we still want Kean out.

Booing during the game, will not only show the outsiders we want Kean out, but it will also affect team performances!

[Amo]

  On 04/12/2011 at 20:21, Pedro said:

We were the first if you care to forget Ruud Gullit and Jean Tigana

*English.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

  On 04/12/2011 at 20:03, booth said:

The boo actually came when Kean appeared on the big screen didn't it?

Yes x 1000! that's exactley what happened to cause the booing.

[47er]

  On 04/12/2011 at 20:02, Roversider said:

Come on, in my view that is the height of bad taste and whilst I am totally convinced of how much the protestors love Rovers there is a point where the hatred of Kean is counting for more than love of the team. Not only is that sad its also very unhealthy and will continue to drive a wedge between the fans.

Kean will continue to drive a wedge between the fans. Its been his strategy ever since the protests began.

[47er]

  On 04/12/2011 at 14:20, magicalmortensleftpeg said:

I dont think thats fair. In hindsight maybe Kean should have kept him but at the time I think most people appreciated that Brett wanted to move down under and he deserved to be given respect for his time here.

Im pretty damn sure Kean would have received a load of abuse if he had refused to let Brett leave.

No he wouldn't! And he'd be receiving a load of abuse anyway-----but maybe less if Emerton was doing a good job!

[Amo]

  On 04/12/2011 at 20:25, Blue n White Rover said:

If we had won, and we still had protestors after the game, you would have made the same point. However, booing during the game affected the players more than it did Kean.

Affected them to the tune of a 4-2 victory? Kean should be thanking the boo-boys, if anything.

  On 04/12/2011 at 20:25, Blue n White Rover said:

So I'll ask again, what was the logic behind booing the team when we scored to make it 1-0? When they equalised? When they scored their second and the score was at 3-2?

Again, I don't think they were booing the goal. They've always been behind the players. It's Kean they have the problem with, so logic would dictate it was the sight of Kean lapping it up which sparked the boos.

  On 04/12/2011 at 20:25, Blue n White Rover said:

Rovers win, then protest. Fine by me. That to any outsider would show that we still want Kean out.

Booing during the game, will not only show the outsiders we want Kean out, but it will also affect team performances!

It would make no difference.

The media would still see protests after a win and call all involved a bunch of crazy ingrates. They don't get it.