[Archived] Booing

[malk]

Only dingles and paid shills want Kean to stay - which are you?

I want Kean to stay with the team winning enough to stay up, what would that make me?

Anyone who would rather boo the manager after a great goal that put us in the lead is a bit of a berk. You want to protest after the game, I'd prefer it if you didn't but fine. During the match you get behind the team and that's all there is to it. I don't care who the booing is directed at, it still makes for a poor atmosphere at home where we should be inspiring the team.

This has got far too personal. Some of the unfounded comments about the manager on here beggar belief. You're judging a man based upon a few interviews on tv and the odd newspaper article, he hasn't proved himself to be a good manager yet but apart from that who knows about the man? Some scurrilous (and sometimes hilarious) rumours aside a lot of projection is going on and it's pretty distasteful.

[Mattyblue]

Braddock is a troll, Ignore her. First time on the site since the last win.

'humiliated by the media?' get a grip. The press soon moves on to another target, probably Villas Boas. We lose on Saturday, we are adrift in the bottom 3 again- Kean gets it in the neck again.

Hold your nerve for Christ sake!

[AllRoverAsia]

I wonder if Yakubu will receive the same criticism and shuns from fans that Dunn did when he spoke his mind about the Kean situation. Dunn has been a failing player for a long time, but it took until his recent interview with the LET for people to realise. Funny that.

You're wrong there. Dunn has been going backwards, literally at times, for a couple of seasons now. I think a lot would say that it's not a new discovery.

[AllRoverAsia]

Why do u all hate kean? Give him time, he doesn't want to fail and will keep us up!

Keep taking the anti-moron pills - they'll work one day.

[Nelsta]

As the media seem adamant that the boos from supporters are directed at the team, how about a chant along the lines of, we're not booing the team we're only booing kean.

i know its cheesy but at least there is no ambiguity, and it would be great to hear kean put his spin on it.

Just keep it short and simple, Love the team, Hate Steve Kean.

Or you could try to inclued those appose to protesting and go with Back the Team, Hate Steve Kean.They may actully sing this cause they'd think they were chanting against the protesters.

[AllRoverAsia]

Why do u all hate kean? Give him time, he doesn't want to fail and will keep us up!

OMG I gave you a +1 by mistake. Should have been -100 at least

[ABBEY]

I want Kean to stay with the team winning enough to stay up, what would that make me?

Anyone who would rather boo the manager after a great goal that put us in the lead is a bit of a berk. You want to protest after the game, I'd prefer it if you didn't but fine. During the match you get behind the team and that's all there is to it. I don't care who the booing is directed at, it still makes for a poor atmosphere at home where we should be inspiring the team.

This has got far too personal. Some of the unfounded comments about the manager on here beggar belief. You're judging a man based upon a few interviews on tv and the odd newspaper article, he hasn't proved himself to be a good manager yet but apart from that who knows about the man? Some scurrilous (and sometimes hilarious) rumours aside a lot of projection is going on and it's pretty distasteful.

Hnfounded comments? Which ones ? Pray give examples!!

He's a lying ,shitstirriing sorry SOB!!!!

[imy9]

As stated the protests need to be maintained over a period of time - successful protests movements are those that stick to their task. It took Liverpool fans a good 18 months or so to get their owners out.

If you don't think they're working (which they are) how about suggesting a realistic alternative ? And what are you doing to help beside pontificating from the comfort of an armchair ?

How many protests did the Liverpool fans take part in?

Quick flick through google I found TWO protests- how many have we had so far?, how many fans took part in those protests, % of fans a lot higher than us.

1. If 500 people take part in a protest how is that effective from about 20K, what's that as a %?

2. If the protests were gaining momentum more people would take part in those protests, yet the numbers ave stayed exactly the same.

Liverpool fans thought of creative methods (making a film with actors like Ricky. T) of getting their message across, we have too (flowers, plane etc) however the protests are dying a slow death.

"The pen is mightier than the sword"- the media is where this battle will be won/lost, we have alienated a number of those this weekend and in my opinion need to find ways of embarrassing the owners in India as that is what effects them.

[chris]

why protests don't try and expose Kean as a "liar" or "deluded" I'll never understand.

It's constantly just "Kean Out" all the time and he can twist this, he can even twist boo'ing.

but questioning his creditability and saying "we know your lying" that would work for me.

It's like people are scared to get personal when thats a big part of the problems.

Anyway results are the fans and Keans biggest weapon.

[matt83]

I want Kean to stay with the team winning enough to stay up, what would that make me?

Anyone who would rather boo the manager after a great goal that put us in the lead is a bit of a berk. You want to protest after the game, I'd prefer it if you didn't but fine. During the match you get behind the team and that's all there is to it. I don't care who the booing is directed at, it still makes for a poor atmosphere at home where we should be inspiring the team.

This has got far too personal. Some of the unfounded comments about the manager on here beggar belief. You're judging a man based upon a few interviews on tv and the odd newspaper article, he hasn't proved himself to be a good manager yet but apart from that who knows about the man? Some scurrilous (and sometimes hilarious) rumours aside a lot of projection is going on and it's pretty distasteful.

Everyone wants the team to stay up but what makes you think Kean can do this? One thing I have never heard from any pro-kean fan is reasons WHY Kean should keep his job? Just platitudes like give him more time, he’ll turn it round but WHY and WHERE is the evidence to suggest he is capable of delivering 17th. Maybe you can geniunely help me.

I can list reasons why to sack him-his poor record, delusions of top 10, poor relationship with fans, dreadful performances for the most part, chaotic defensively, huge gap between midfield and defence, poor signings outweigh good signings, etc etc. All of these are facts and as you say there are other reasons people hate him on rumours alone such as Venkys puppet,a complete turd, etc.

As for the booing would it not solve it to sack him? How much better would the atmosphere be if he wasn’t there. If he went and we hypothetically appointed a Hughes type surely every fan would be delighted at that. Even the players would surely prefer to play under a proper manager than toenails who has only proved he is a number 2 even a number 3.

Ps. Just to pre-empt it from anyone I don’t buy this mentality well Hughes etc wouldn’t come to us. Money talks. Everyone has thier price.

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

How many protests did the Liverpool fans take part in?

Quick flick through google I found TWO protests- how many have we had so far?, how many fans took part in those protests, % of fans a lot higher than us.

1. If 500 people take part in a protest how is that effective from about 20K, what's that as a %?

2. If the protests were gaining momentum more people would take part in those protests, yet the numbers ave stayed exactly the same.

Liverpool fans thought of creative methods (making a film with actors like Ricky. T) of getting their message across, we have too (flowers, plane etc) however the protests are dying a slow death.

"The pen is mightier than the sword"- the media is where this battle will be won/lost, we have alienated a number of those this weekend and in my opinion need to find ways of embarrassing the owners in India as that is what effects them.

This is my point as well. The perception of the protests is the most important thing. If they're ridiculed in the media then Venkys wont take them seriously and booing after we scored a goal, for whatever reason, wont look good however you want to spin it. Similarly, protesting after a game that we've won just looks rather foolish. It will appear to those on the outside that some fans are more preoccupied with booing Kean, even after we've scored a goal, then supporting the team.

I like the T-Shirt and Scarves idea because then you can make a point without it having to disrupt the game or create negative publicity. You could get a large amount of Ewood Park fans to wave scarves regardless of the scoreline and you'd probably get more involvement than any chant.

[Mattyblue]

Shouldn't the scarves and tshirts be taken off if we are winning then morten?

[booth]

And your supporting evidence for this extraordinary statement is...

From Father Ted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81quuALF5hs

[m0r94n]

Similarly, protesting after a game that we've won just looks rather foolish. It will appear to those on the outside that some fans are more preoccupied with booing Kean, even after we've scored a goal, then supporting the team.

Or alternatively that they are not so fickle as to let one win cloud their judgement.

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

Or alternatively that they are not so fickle as to let one win cloud their judgement.

Have you read or viewed the press reaction from last saturday?? Protesting when we win wont look good regardless of how you want to spin it. I fully understand what you're saying, but the view from the outside looking in, wont appreciate it.

Shouldn't the scarves and tshirts be taken off if we are winning then morten?

The point is that you can still show support for the protests without having to chant or boo. Im guessing more people would wear a scarf then joining in with chants and I dont think it'd create as much negative publicity in comparison to booing when we've just scored a goal because the player chose to celebrate with the manager.

[den]

Have you read or viewed the press reaction from last saturday?? Protesting when we win wont look good regardless of how you want to spin it. I fully understand what you're saying, but the view from the outside looking in, wont appreciate it.

The point is that you can still show support for the protests without having to chant or boo. Im guessing more people would wear a scarf then joining in with chants and I dont think it'd create as much negative publicity in comparison to booing when we've just scored a goal because the player chose to celebrate with the manager.

So who cares? Really, who cares what the press think?

If there had been no protests we wouldn't have even got a mention. There is pressure on Kean and Venky's, that's very obvious. Protest by wearing a scarf and not booing or making any kind of vocal objections - you're living in la la land. These are football fans and have always spoken their mind before, during and after games.

The more our plight is highlighted outside of Ewood Park, the better. The alternative is to smile while we fall apart as a club.

[booth]

Have you read or viewed the press reaction from last saturday?? Protesting when we win wont look good regardless of how you want to spin it. I fully understand what you're saying, but the view from the outside looking in, wont appreciate it.

Who cares? The week before they were out for Kean's blood. Next week they'll have a different opinion.

It's only a story for them, something to fill column inches and air time.

Whether there's protests or not, or agree with it or not, you won't stop people booing and chanting. Unless you play games without a crowd. And you won't stop the media from changing their minds from one week to the next.

[sijoco]

I want Kean to stay with the team winning enough to stay up, what would that make me?

A fantasist?

[Sverre]

How can we say that we are 100% behind the players when some are booing a few of our players?

[booth]

How can we say that we are 100% behind the players when some are booing a few of our players?

Apart from Roberts after the game, and which was thoroughly wrong, who was booed?

[Sverre]

Apart from Roberts after the game, and which was thoroughly wrong, who was booed?

I thought I heard boos when he came ON the pitch as well. But, I probably mixed some stuff up

but that being said, in my opinion booing players is not exactly helping the players, unless your name is El Hadji Diouf.

[booth]

I thought I heard boos when he came ON the pitch as well. But, I probably mixed some stuff up

but that being said, in my opinion booing players is not exactly helping the players, unless your name is El Hadji Diouf.

I won't claim to hear every part of the ground during a game but from where I was sitting I didn't hear one boo for a Rovers player. Quite the opposite.

From what I've been told Roberts was jeered/chanted at when he was doing his radio show. When he came onto the pitch there was nothing but applause for Yakubu and very loud chants of Feed the Yak and he will score.

[Sverre]

I won't claim to hear every part of the ground during a game but from where I was sitting I didn't hear one boo for a Rovers player. Quite the opposite.

From what I've been told Roberts was jeered/chanted at when he was doing his radio show. When he came onto the pitch there was nothing but applause for Yakubu and very loud chants of Feed the Yak and he will score.

Ah okay, sounds good! Thanks for clearing that up.

[Barnesy]

I won't claim to hear every part of the ground during a game but from where I was sitting I didn't hear one boo for a Rovers player. Quite the opposite.

From what I've been told Roberts was jeered/chanted at when he was doing his radio show. When he came onto the pitch there was nothing but applause for Yakubu and very loud chants of Feed the Yak and he will score.

A bit late methinks-damage done! Whatever you think of Kean, Yakubu thinks differently-he rescued his career-and I don't blame him one bit for sharing his joy with the manager. The boos, Big Screen or not, were totally unacceptable after a goal scored for us. The agenda for some, it seems, is very all out against Kean -even at the cost of Rovers losing-something I cannot subscribe to. Poor Yak, our only premiership player to score 4 goals in one game-only to receive a rebuke from our own fans for thanking his manager

[Ricky]

Barnesy, to me it looked far to stage managed and not a reaction.