[Archived] Rovers v Bolton

[OJRovers]

I'm here in peace.

A poor game from 2 sides that looked bereft of any confidence - honestly looked more like League 1 than Premier League at times.

You've got Coyle telling you Keans a good manager when his own record isn't all that (lest we forget big Sam had Bolton regularly between 10th and 7th) and football fans from around the country, who know nothing, abusing Blackburn fans - the same fans whose passion was the only emotion on display from anybody in Blue and White last night. I'd love to see how they would react after 12 months of complete mismanagement of their clubs. Coyle then comes out with further carp about 'PL classic' and 'what you would expect from the best league in the world' (I'm assuming he hasn't seen the Bundesliga etc). It was awful with very little quality on show (except for your goal - I expect Hoilett will be gone by the second week in January)

Sure I've had a giggle at your expense, you have to, but, if I separate my club allegiance from my love of the game, then what has happened to your club is criminal and, assuming you get relegated, promotion won't be a walk in the park.

Up to last night I honestly thought you had the quality that would ultimately see you just outside the bottom 3. Now I just can't see you having a cat in hells chance.

Fair post Longsider

Although I don't think we're any worse man for man than any of the clubs in the bottom half of the Premier League, we are just totally at a loss of confidence under Kean. Bring a new man in now and we'll be a lot better, but IMO its already too big a gap to try to catch up with 17th.

[deftangel]

Fair play to longsiders for a frank and honest comment. It's appreciated.

[davulsukur]

I'm here in peace.

A poor game from 2 sides that looked bereft of any confidence - honestly looked more like League 1 than Premier League at times.

You've got Coyle telling you Keans a good manager when his own record isn't all that (lest we forget big Sam had Bolton regularly between 10th and 7th) and football fans from around the country, who know nothing, abusing Blackburn fans - the same fans whose passion was the only emotion on display from anybody in Blue and White last night. I'd love to see how they would react after 12 months of complete mismanagement of their clubs. Coyle then comes out with further carp about 'PL classic' and 'what you would expect from the best league in the world' (I'm assuming he hasn't seen the Bundesliga etc). It was awful with very little quality on show (except for your goal - I expect Hoilett will be gone by the second week in January)

Sure I've had a giggle at your expense, you have to, but, if I separate my club allegiance from my love of the game, then what has happened to your club is criminal and, assuming you get relegated, promotion won't be a walk in the park.

Up to last night I honestly thought you had the quality that would ultimately see you just outside the bottom 3. Now I just can't see you having a cat in hells chance.

And when it happens, i'll be watching closely.

I, like yourself actually thought we had the quality to get out of trouble. Sacking Kean weeks ago and installing a proper manager would have possibly done the trick. We've just chucked away a bucket load of points in the first half of the season and now i think Venkys pulling the trigger will be too late.

[Kelbo]

Fair play to longsiders for a frank and honest comment. It's appreciated.

Always a good contributer is Longsiders, a proper football fan too!

[Sandiway Blue]

Fair play to longsiders for a frank and honest comment. It's appreciated.

Indeed +1 for that.

Last night i thought we had the chance to hammer the last nail into the coffin that carries the imposter`s Rovers `career`.The BBE did their bit,the DE did their bit as did the Riverside however the Jack Walker stand just sat there and never batted an eyelid bar the odd few dotted here and there.

What i can`t understand is WHY?

They had the best chance of seeing this muppet off by making themselves heard and to leave the press and board members under no illusion as to the stance of the supporters.We would have been united as one voice to put some real heavy pressure on this charlatan.

When will people wake up to what`s going on at Ewood?

[booth]

The most sympathy I've had is from a bunch of Burnley fans I know strangely enough.

Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes... The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... Mass hysteria.

Is this the end of days?

[The Prof.]

I'm here in peace.

A poor game from 2 sides that looked bereft of any confidence - honestly looked more like League 1 than Premier League at times.

You've got Coyle telling you Keans a good manager when his own record isn't all that (lest we forget big Sam had Bolton regularly between 10th and 7th) and football fans from around the country, who know nothing, abusing Blackburn fans - the same fans whose passion was the only emotion on display from anybody in Blue and White last night. I'd love to see how they would react after 12 months of complete mismanagement of their clubs. Coyle then comes out with further carp about 'PL classic' and 'what you would expect from the best league in the world' (I'm assuming he hasn't seen the Bundesliga etc). It was awful with very little quality on show (except for your goal - I expect Hoilett will be gone by the second week in January)

Sure I've had a giggle at your expense, you have to, but, if I separate my club allegiance from my love of the game, then what has happened to your club is criminal and, assuming you get relegated, promotion won't be a walk in the park.

Up to last night I honestly thought you had the quality that would ultimately see you just outside the bottom 3. Now I just can't see you having a cat in hells chance.

Well that's as it maybe but I can tell you you might not be laughing for too long matey. At least we have a good possibility of new international cash and new owners coming in. Your board consists of a couple of struggling faulty local millionaires, a CEO who is or isn't with the club, an american - great football knowledge there then. A young untried manager (sound familiar?), a good centre forward who wants out now and hates it there, a fat centre forward who wants out, and vanishing parahute payments, a university! with no students, plus from what I've seen you might go down anyway - Weeellll I know where I'd rather be right now

[tomphil]

Indeed +1 for that.

Last night i thought we had the chance to hammer the last nail into the coffin that carries the imposter`s Rovers `career`.The BBE did their bit,the DE did their bit as did the Riverside however the Jack Walker stand just sat there and never batted an eyelid bar the odd few dotted here and there.

What i can`t understand is WHY?

They had the best chance of seeing this muppet off by making themselves heard and to leave the press and board members under no illusion as to the stance of the supporters.We would have been united as one voice to put some real heavy pressure on this charlatan.

When will people wake up to what`s going on at Ewood?

I sat in the JW upper, BBE side last night with a family member who's up for xmas. I think you have to take into account the type of people who make up the crowd in there, a lot of older people, a lot of the wealthier types as well and also quite a few day trippers and possibly neutrals or part timers. To be fair it was quite animated at times last night and there were plenty of people loudly voicing their anger. Its always different from the other stands though, more like a trip to the cinema at times lol

[Sandiway Blue]

I sat in the JW upper, BBE side last night with a family member who's up for xmas. I think you have to take into account the type of people who make up the crowd in there, a lot of older people, a lot of the wealthier types as well and also quite a few day trippers and possibly neutrals or part timers. To be fair it was quite animated at times last night and there were plenty of people loudly voicing their anger. Its always different from the other stands though, more like a trip to the cinema at times lol

It was really frustrating though because if the Jack Walker stand had been in uproar on the Rovers board members and the media`s doorstep,it really could have made such a difference.

[Neal]

Well done for standing your ground mate. I saw the incident unfold, that steward nearly caused a riot and I've been told that the police had specifically told stewards not to try anything like that as it would cause trouble. From my seat that steward didn't look to be one of the Rovers stewards with a floors2go coat on it. Was he from notlob?

Anyways its was good to see everyone unite and stand their ground and pass that banner back.

Yes I was proud of the fans last night, the only thing to be proud of really.

At half time I walked over to him and held out the banner for him to take explaining asking for it would of been easier (not that I would handed it over) but he didn't seem to want to take me on.

[longsiders1882]

Well that's as it maybe but I can tell you you might not be laughing for too long matey. At least we have a good possibility of new international cash and new owners coming in. Your board consists of a couple of struggling faulty local millionaires, a CEO who is or isn't with the club, an american - great football knowledge there then. A young untried manager (sound familiar?), a good centre forward who wants out now and hates it there, a fat centre forward who wants out, and vanishing parahute payments, a university! with no students, plus from what I've seen you might go down anyway - Weeellll I know where I'd rather be right now

Merry Xmas to you too.

[tomphil]

It was really frustrating though because if the Jack Walker stand had been in uproar on the Rovers board members and the media`s doorstep,it really could have made such a difference.

I know what your sayin pal but there was a lot of verbals going on in there as well at times, maybe they'll completely blow against Stoke.

[broadsword]

Merry Xmas to you too.

I wouldn't take it personally.

It's a very painful time to be a fan of Blackburn Rovers.

Can't remember such pain being a football fan.

[longsiders1882]

I wouldn't take it personally.

It's a very painful time to be a fan of Blackburn Rovers.

Can't remember such pain being a football fan.

I do understand, we've had much worse times remember, which is why I've resisted any temptation to bait.

[Amo]

Well that's as it maybe but I can tell you you might not be laughing for too long matey. At least we have a good possibility of new international cash and new owners coming in. Your board consists of a couple of struggling faulty local millionaires, a CEO who is or isn't with the club, an american - great football knowledge there then. A young untried manager (sound familiar?), a good centre forward who wants out now and hates it there, a fat centre forward who wants out, and vanishing parahute payments, a university! with no students, plus from what I've seen you might go down anyway - Weeellll I know where I'd rather be right now

Who you trying to kid?

We're up slack alley. It took how long for The Trust to find viable owners, while the club was still in good shape, and look who they found? You honestly think someone's going to swoop in and save us from the Venky's nightmare?

[Guest Rovers4Good]

Last night i thought we had the chance to hammer the last nail into the coffin that carries the imposter`s Rovers `career`.The BBE did their bit,the DE did their bit as did the Riverside however the Jack Walker stand just sat there and never batted an eyelid bar the odd few dotted here and there.

What i can`t understand is WHY?

The reason why the Jack Walker didn't do too much is because the majority of them are family members etc....

I did see quite a few who were sat in and around Coyle trying to get to the barriers at the front to shout their anger towards Kean though.

[grizfoot]

There really is not a powerful enough adjective, methaphor or turn of phrase to describe the feeling during and after last night's game. The words torture, gruesome and horror only really touch the surface on the turn of events that have happened over the club in the past few months and which escalated further last night after defeat against a frankily very poor Bolton team.

The atmosphere was full of fury and negativity from the beginning and the first five minutes and the Bolton goal only made that worse. The now complusary Kean Out chants (there is something therapeutic amongst the rhythmic anger of these chants I find) mixed in with the occassional Salgado song (another dig at Kean of course). If it was bad at the beginning of the game with the Bolton second goal came even more uproar. I felt at one point there might just be a pitch invasion, the Kean Out/Venkys Out banners where out in force and people charged to the front of stands to vent their frustrations. The football on the pitch first half became something of a sideshow to the unrest of it. The actual football on show from Rovers was dire, I've seen my fair share of bad first halves from Rovers over the years but in my time of attending Rovers home games I can't recall one worse than that. A crucial match up against the only team in the division with lesspoints than us and we just didn't show up. It took me a while to figure out we where actually playing 4-4-2 I think, launching aimless long-balls to Yakubu and Holiett.

I admit second half we where better, Holiett was finally moved to a wide position where he's played so well this season and given the ball to feet and looked like creating something every time he got hold off the ball, his performance was the only bright spark of the game in my view. Yakubu scored after a superb pass from Holiett, we should have had a penalty for a shockingly bad tackle on Rochina, Nzonzi, Dunn & Holiett all went close with shots whilst Samba was inches away from grabbing a last grasp equaliser.

I've become less surpised each passing losing game that Kean still remains in charge, a man with integrity and decency would have resigned by now but we all know Kean isn't going to do that. On the other hand he's in a well-paid job and does have the right to see his contract out. Therefore in a way the buck stops with Venky's now, Kean has lost the entire Rovers support now there's no coming back from this. He should have been sacked months/weeks ago but now the situation is so painful obvious that it makes you want to scream.

Talking of screaming, on my way home I saw a chap jumping around and screaming at some folks in Father Christmas costumes. I can only assume the situation his driven him insane, talking of insane the idea and chants of Mark Hughes name was embarrassing to be honest, this is the manager who shuned us for Man City and then left Fulham in mysterious circumstances. I fear even with Mourinho in charge right now we'd struggle to get out of the mess the owners and Kean have got ourselves in. Far too many inexperienced foreigns who are effectively unproven in the Premier League. Formica & Vuckevic inparticuarly went totally missing last night and with Nzonzi having a poor game and the lack of mobility (but plenty of effort) from Dunn meant that we got totally bossed in midfield by Bolton. We also went far to gung-ho too early, there was couple of breakaway occassions where Bolton had a flood of players forward against a few of our players back, they somehow managed to mess up what was effectively a 5 on 1 situation second-half when the ball was fired across the front of goal.

Not for the first time though you come away from the game feeling we where lucky "only" to conede "2 or 3 goals", again last night Bolton could have had four or five. It is only a matter of time before a top team gives us a real beating. If Kean still remains for the Liverpool & Man United games I feel that Ipswich's 9-0 heaviest defeat record could be in serious danger, and I mean that without any hint of sarcasm.

[Mattyblue]

You've summed up the evening very well grizfoot.

This really is unprecedented, we now have a football club that ignores results and the views of the supporters- the only two things that mattered a year ago.

If there has EVER been a situation like this in football before, let me know!

[1864roverite]

Well well well, I still havent calmed down any after yet another feeble effort from our manager and his selection of a team. I am utterly distraught at the obvious lack of ambition, lack of planning, lack of a game plan, lack of know how and a lack of pride. Whatever Kean had in mind in approaching a game of this magnitude needs explaining to the supporting fans.

I do not accept for one minute that Kean can have any excuses for the first 45 minutes on that pitch, what the hell had he sent out those players to do ? Clearly, they were unorganised, there wasnt a game plan, they were wide open, defensively they were a shambles again whilst going forward they were so far off the game it was unbelieveable. We very quickly were 2-0 down and the players looked out on their feet.

Yet, when we see the better effort in the second half I again wonder just what the bloody hell the message the team went out with, why the bloody hell didnt they have that mentality from the off ? Bolton are not the most attractive of teams yet last night, 5 losses on the bounce, they at least put some effort in, they chased, harried and worked for each other, they won the loose balls and put every sinew into each tackle, the result which got them a 2-0 start with ease. Its a pity we didnt see this in Rovers throughout the game.

As I said I am distraught at last nights result, compiunded even more by the latest response from Paul Hunt for me to keep the faith. KEEP THE FAITH ! FFS Rovers are capitulating to the depths of oblivion and you ask me to keep the faith. How can we have faith when we see our fans treat like copmplete buffoons.

Stewve Kean is a complete fraud. The fans dont want him and the players dont want him. It does make people such as Coyle and nopw Redknapp happy because they both gave their views on our support being nasty to little old fat illegitimate Kean. Well bring it on Harry and Coyle, will anyone else with any association to the so called experts and pundits answer this one question which you all seem so keen to avoid -

EXPLAIN THE CURRENT RECORD IN GAMES LOSSES AND WINS RATIO ?

Once the idiots have the answer then they will at least be able to grasp the notion why Rovers fans are so bloody upset with the current set up.

I will not go to Ewood anymore after last night until he is gone. Season ticket remains firmly away.

I am giving credit to the fans for them holding back a little last night. I dont condone any pitch invasion but the way the lads in the Darwen End reacted is commendable. it could easily have spilled over and someone could easily have gotten hurt. I abhor the actions of the idiotic stewards both inside and outside the ground. I abhor the decision maker who thought it a good idea to stop more fans protesting and instead cause issues with the fans and stewards/police instead. Whoever made that decision needs hauling over the coals because we have the right as paying supporters to air our issues at the club, it was peaceful until YOU made the wrong decision to stop people.

I noticed a lad get near to Kean in the dugout, again I dont condone this behaviour but that is what it is driving fans to as they try to get answers.

I sit the JW Upper, fans were voicing their disdain around me and its getting more louder and louder. The voice of Rovers supporters was impressive all round last night becasue believe me KEAN OUT sounded loud and proud.

I had a chat to Glen Mullan in the Brown Cow pre match, I applaud your efforts mate and for those who clearly dont recognise what it is he is doing, he speaks openly to the club, the police and to other fans in an honest manner. it was witnessed first hand last night so keep it up.

Anyhow, thats it, Rovers are all but gone from the top league. We had information direct from a player last night about who was about to come in and it differed to information that GM had from his source. Both differ to the info from Kamy but what is very very evident is that the PLAYERS want him OUT. We now have irrefutable evidence from 4 top players that have all voiced concerns about Kean.

Kean has destroyed the clubs ethic in a mere 12 months. He has been allowed a one man show with Anderson and his cohorts. It is now time for him to leave before someone really does get to him which in turn will damage the image of this once great club forever.

Finally, if we have any visitors from SKY, BBC or any other media stream contact me. I am more than prepared to give you the straight questions that YOU should be asking our so loved manager. The mans a complete TW*T.

KEAN OUT

[roverandout]

not everybody in the blackburn end joined in either, when we stood up had people behind us telling us to sit down etc, hard to really join in when your the only one doing it, the support for the players was great and when we pulled one back everyone concentrated getting behind the team, our fans are real fans, contary to what outsiders and media morons think.

[McClarky]

Well that's as it maybe but I can tell you you might not be laughing for too long matey. At least we have a good possibility of new international cash and new owners coming in. Your board consists of a couple of struggling faulty local millionaires, a CEO who is or isn't with the club, an american - great football knowledge there then. A young untried manager (sound familiar?), a good centre forward who wants out now and hates it there, a fat centre forward who wants out, and vanishing parahute payments, a university! with no students, plus from what I've seen you might go down anyway - Weeellll I know where I'd rather be right now

Come on now, fairs fair. As much as I must point out that Burnley are surely a tin pot outfit I would swap places with anyone just now. We could be out of existance, out of the league or anything within a couple of years. People should get wise to the fact that this is serious. Kean deserves to be sacked for being a lying, canniving, incompetent fool but even with a cross between Alf Ramsey and Brian Clough in charge this joke of a club would be propping up the league I reckon.

[rovermagic]

I was in JW stand, row 12 nr Darwen End. Where we were Bolton fans were loudest. Though DE in voice. Could hear BE. JW was a bit quiet. To me it seemed as much sad as angry. If the Venkys asset strip us I wonder if they can default on most of our debt. My mate is a Leeds fan. Default will cost 15 points, sale of course of all our good players and prob relegation to League 1. Yesterday reminded me of Forest home game we lost in 98-9 at end of season. In many ways this was worse.

[JAL]

Absolutely top credit must go to all those Rovers fans around the ground who gave Kean and Venkys stick.

Proud to be a Rover shamed to have these owners!

[SAS]

Was a large number outside players entrance. They were still there at 11pm , as I could hear them from highercroft.

[den]

What's all this about - Kean blaming injuries?

The Keeper was first choice. Out of the back four Lowe and Samba were regulars, so only two positions weakened there. The entire midfield was fit and available except for Olssen and the ever missing Grella. All of the strikers were fit and available.

To me, we had three positions weakened from our strongest starting line up. One centre half - and even there Hanley has plenty of experience now, left back where we were definitely weaker and we had one midfielder out.

Injuries my backside. Yet none of the press pick up on this.