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[Archived] Venky's willing to sell?

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Daniel Louis Grabko (Dan) Premier League

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Den, do you really think it's possible for the Venky's to sell up while we're in this division?

If they don't want to sell then all bets are off.

We want them to sell because they're neglectful, disinterested and useless. Under such ownership we are likely to tumble through the leagues. perversely we may stay up this season, but that would be a stay of execution.

If there's a way to force a sale whilewe're still a Premiership club, I'm all for it.

This is pretty much correct, IMHO. Venky's most likely won't sell while they still own a Premier League club. It would take outside intervention or a public bid of silly money in my opinion. If, as the season rolls along and Rovers go adrift or it becomes clear that the drop is imminent, I think they will start to listen to offers.

I have nothing but respect for the two Ian's, and have no doubt that they have the best interests of the club at heart. I don't buy into any of the cynicism or skepticism being circulated about their intentions. However, the high net worths they might bring in (They won't be buying the club themselves, from my understanding, they don't really have that kind of cash themselves, apparently) will not be Rovers fans, and will have to be sold on the deal as some way to profit from it, whether as a short term return on investment, or by finding a business model that will turn a pretty penny into their pockets over time. Nobody those two would bring in are going to do it for the love of the club. As long as they can maintain enough influence on any consortium to leash them and their natural "investor" ways :) then it could be a good stop-gap for a while. New money tends to be more openly cut-throat though, so I hope that if they are cooking up something, that they are choosing their candidates wisely.

You all know that I think that we the supporters would be the only ones who would be in it for the long haul, run the club responsibly, and with the openness and transparency we all deserve. It would be great for us to be able to partner with the Ian's instead of outside investment.

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check my edit that you missed by seconds :lol: :

"Whereas, the truth is that without strengthening their squads, I reckon not one team from the Championship would survive in the PL."

It's a given that strength in depth is needed in the PL. But playing against the calibre of Man. Utd, Man. City, Spurs etc. is one thing. The rest of them, Den? I mean, tell me how many top-rate clubs are left? That's my point. There isn't this huge gap between those clubs and the Championship in terms of quality.

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It's a given that strength in depth is needed in the PL. But playing against the calibre of Man. Utd, Man. City, Spurs etc. is one thing. The rest of them, Den? I mean, tell me how many top-rate clubs are left? That's my point. There isn't this huge gap between those clubs and the Championship in terms of quality.

The entire football pyramid is compacting in terms of quality. Look at the quality of many League Two teams and even Conference sides these days. The football being played there nowadays is not even recognizable (in a good way) to what it was 10-15 years ago. The standards of the stadia, football pitches, and play has gone up incredibly. This actually makes it much harder to get promoted these days, even with the injection of money.

Even so, the gap in money just keeps getting wider and wider. Today the Championship sides receive £2.5m each in media money. League One sides get £440,000, and League Two teams £300,000. When the Premier League was created, the gap between the Premier League and Division 1 in terms of money was about the same as between the Championship and League One is today. We get a base payment of £48m this year, nearly 20 times that of a Championship side not receiving parachute payments.

Make no mistake, if we go down, wages will have to be cut in half to make us solvent - but even if they are, we will still have a wage level in the top four of that division. We will have two years to make it back using our monetary advantage. After that, another budget restructuring would see wages dwindle to mid-Championship levels, and a promotion back to the top-flight would have to be done the long and hard way. The problem is, because quality has risen across the leagues, it is harder than ever to just buy your way up the pyramid these days.

We have the disadvantage of having to rely more on the media money than a lot of clubs. I think that in the Premier League, it is only Wigan that generate less revenue than us if one takes away the TV money. We wouldn't rank in the top half of the league in the Championship in that category either, with the likes of West Ham, Leeds, Leicester, Forest, Birmingham, Middlesbrough, and Southampton all earning more in Commercial and match day revenues than we do in the Premiership, and that's just off the top of my head, plus we'd make less as a Championship side.

That's why we need sound ownership and leadership to run a tight ship and be honest and straightforward, and not someone who is going to come in and raise our expectations only to gut the club to the bone...

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It's a given that strength in depth is needed in the PL. But playing against the calibre of Man. Utd, Man. City, Spurs etc. is one thing. The rest of them, Den? I mean, tell me how many top-rate clubs are left? That's my point. There isn't this huge gap between those clubs and the Championship in terms of quality.

I agree with that. We only have to look at FA CUP. Rovers lost to newcastle. Yet brighton beat them. I know it is only one match. Not that I want rovers there. But the standard in the championship is not as bad as some think. I believe rovers would.struggle even with the current players.

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That suggests that the top 12 clubs or so in the Championship, would survive in the PL Topman. - Whereas, the truth is that without strengthening their squads, I reckon not one team from the Championship would survive in the PL.

You mean like how Swansea and Norwich further strengthened with championship players and are flying high? hmmm

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You mean like how Swansea and Norwich further strengthened with championship players and are flying high? hmmm

Yes and QPR signed so called premiership players and are a poor side

ALA Burnley & Blackpool?

Seasons not over yet.

No chance. Both already have more than 30 points. With 14 games remaining I cant see them not getting anoter 10 points each.

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unless i am missing something or some other bit of information, where does this article suggest that there might be a consortium put together to try and buy rovers back and rescue us??

To be honest mate we are ALL clutching at straws and living in hope,I think its the only thing keeping most Rovers fans sane at the moment...its all we have left in a sea of Chicken shyte.

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unless i am missing something or some other bit of information, where does this article suggest that there might be a consortium put together to try and buy rovers back and rescue us??

The two Ian's want to buy the club and this article was to show that they do have the necessary contacts to put a serious proposal together.

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The Football Association is being urged to investigate the running of Blackburn Rovers after accusations in Parliament that the club is a "shambles". Graham Jones, the Labour MP for Hyndburn, is questioning whether its Indian owners Venky's are "fit and proper persons" to run the club.

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The Football Association is being urged to investigate the running of Blackburn Rovers after accusations in Parliament that the club is a "shambles". Graham Jones, the Labour MP for Hyndburn, is questioning whether its Indian owners Venky's are "fit and proper persons" to run the club.

About time too,

come on Jack Straw,

your turn

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I have to say I now look at the way other local clubs (even our subordinates Burnley!) are being run and I simply cringe with embarrassment due to what is going on at Circus Ewood.

We used to be the benchmark for how clubs should be run...the name of this proud club has been dragged through the brown stuff backwards by these pillocks from Pune.

Grrrrrr :angry2:

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Another bad day in the office for Venky's. Shareholders not going to be happy

http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/results/venkys-q3-net-slumps-81fallpoultry-realizations_664990.html

It just goes from ###### to shiter!! Next we will be told that we bought oilseed with the Phil Jones money rather than new players.

Carnage and more carnage.

Heard the parliament debate on radio earlier.At last our plight gets a decent platform and we must all hope it goes somewhere from here and not just fizzle out.

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I agree with that. We only have to look at FA CUP. Rovers lost to newcastle. Yet brighton beat them. I know it is only one match. Not that I want rovers there. But the standard in the championship is not as bad as some think. I believe rovers would.struggle even with the current players.

Making judgements on one off FA cup games - don't be daft.

There's a huge gap between the PL and the Championship and because of the TV money it's getting bigger. All the best teams and 99% of the best players are in the PL. Can't believe I'm having to argue that point. The only chance promoted sides have of staying in the Premier league is to strengthen. If they kept the same squads, damn near all of them would go straight back down.

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It's a given that strength in depth is needed in the PL. But playing against the calibre of Man. Utd, Man. City, Spurs etc. is one thing. The rest of them, Den? I mean, tell me how many top-rate clubs are left? That's my point. There isn't this huge gap between those clubs and the Championship in terms of quality.

If there weren't, the promoted clubs wouldn't struggle to stay up.

Maybe this is where the belief that Allardyce's side was capable of playing pretty, passing football came from? After all, if people think most of the clubs outside the top 6 or 7 in the PL are fairly poor and only lower league standard, then it's understandable that people would think that way.

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If there weren't, the promoted clubs wouldn't struggle to stay up.

OR the reason the promoted clubs are acquitting themselves so well this year is because The Championship is a far more competitive league?

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