[Archived] Venky's willing to sell?

[HRH Tugay of Kerimoglu]

I do not post often,

But if anyone in their above-GCSE educated minds thinks that the previously attached PDF represents a professionally presented and serious proposal then we are all seriously ######.

Really.

Maybe I'm drunk.

Maybe that's a rough draft.

But HA!

Please, please, please prove me wrong you pipe-dreaming crazyshits!

Ugh.

Coyb.

[Majiball]

de ja vu.

[Tom]

That document is old news and nothing to do with this rumoured consortium

[Roverall]

That document is old news and nothing to do with this rumoured consortium

So, Tom, could you tell us what you know about the rumours if possible?

[Tom]

Nothing at all just what is posted on the last page I'm not one to have inside info.

I do know that document though was proposed by a rovers fan from Europe (possibly Scandanavian) and send to Wayne wild to look at and he tweeted it.

[michaelthomas]

I have genuinley got goosebumps at the thought of us ridding the club of Venkys & Kean, and somehow staying up in the Premier league under a consortium of owners with the clubs best intentions at heart. One can dream. Not holding out much hope RE this latest rumour just yet though, although I have thought WW could be the one to launch something, albeit if he has denied any plans to do so thus far.

[dave birch]

....and where are philipl and Kamy on this issue, after all the fuss about the Qataris, they've gone very quiet......

[Paul]

, whilst the group is heavily involved in a potential takeover bid being led by Wayne Wild, this is in full conjunction with the Action Group.

If the above quote is correct, and I see no reason why Pete 1981 should make it up, then I'm really pleased this is now out in the open. I have looked on Facebook but note the BRAG Action Group is a closed group. A few days ago I posted a line to the effect "this will show BRAG in their true colours" The only person to pick me up on this was ABBEY and I'm really sorry I couldn't answer his questions openly but I had no proof of my suspicions.

I believe the protest movement began with the best of intentions but in recent weeks, possibly months, it has seemed to me there was another motivation behind these protests - a takeover attempt. There have been several pointers in this direction but the one which confirmed it for me was GM's statement last weekend that the club was bigger than Kean, Venkys and the PL combined. When I read this apparent acceptance relegation was not an issue I felt my concerns were justified.

I want Rovers out of the Raos hands but feel there are many questions raised by this apparent announcement, particularly the actions of BRAG. I am deeply unhappy at what may have been an attempt to manipulate the fan base and potentially could have undermined the club. Our club has always benefitted from clarity and it is to be hoped this will be the case in the future.

What have we experienced for the last 14 months? Please do not leap without looking people.

This would not have my personal support.

[47er]

If the above quote is correct, and I see no reason why Pete 1981 should make it up, then I'm really pleased this is now out in the open. I have looked on Facebook but note the BRAG Action Group is a closed group. A few days ago I posted a line to the effect "this will show BRAG in their true colours" The only person to pick me up on this was ABBEY and I'm really sorry I couldn't answer his questions openly but I had no proof of my suspicions.

I believe the protest movement began with the best of intentions but in recent weeks, possibly months, it has seemed to me there was another motivation behind these protests - a takeover attempt. There have been several pointers in this direction but the one which confirmed it for me was GM's statement last weekend that the club was bigger than Kean, Venkys and the PL combined. When I read this apparent acceptance relegation was not an issue I felt my concerns were justified.

I want Rovers out of the Raos hands but feel there are many questions raised by this apparent announcement, particularly the actions of BRAG. I am deeply unhappy at what may have been an attempt to manipulate the fan base and potentially could have undermined the club. Our club has always benefitted from clarity and it is to be hoped this will be the case in the future.

What have we experienced for the last 14 months? Please do not leap without looking people.

This would not have my personal support.

If getting rid of Venkys and Kean and having some element of local ownership doesn't represent "the best of intentions" I don't know what could. How could anyone have "undermined" our club more than Venkys/Kean?

I honestly don't follow you.

[Paul]

If getting rid of Venkys and Kean and having some element of local ownership doesn't represent "the best of intentions" I don't know what could. How could anyone have "undermined" our club more than Venkys/Kean?

Please read more closely what I have written, especially in relation to timescale.

I honestly don't follow you.

My concern is fans have been asked to support one set of intentions when there may have been an objective which people did not understand they were supporting.

[Stuart]

If the above quote is correct, and I see no reason why Pete 1981 should make it up, then I'm really pleased this is now out in the open. I have looked on Facebook but note the BRAG Action Group is a closed group. A few days ago I posted a line to the effect "this will show BRAG in their true colours" The only person to pick me up on this was ABBEY and I'm really sorry I couldn't answer his questions openly but I had no proof of my suspicions.

I believe the protest movement began with the best of intentions but in recent weeks, possibly months, it has seemed to me there was another motivation behind these protests - a takeover attempt. There have been several pointers in this direction but the one which confirmed it for me was GM's statement last weekend that the club was bigger than Kean, Venkys and the PL combined. When I read this apparent acceptance relegation was not an issue I felt my concerns were justified.

I want Rovers out of the Raos hands but feel there are many questions raised by this apparent announcement, particularly the actions of BRAG. I am deeply unhappy at what may have been an attempt to manipulate the fan base and potentially could have undermined the club. Our club has always benefitted from clarity and it is to be hoped this will be the case in the future.

What have we experienced for the last 14 months? Please do not leap without looking people.

This would not have my personal support.

Paul, I have a lot of respect for you as a poster but this is exactly the reason why we will never be united as a fan base.

There are too many vocal people on different sides of the fence and we will never get agreement.

It sounds like you feel manipulated but what did you expect the protests to achieve? Another Jack riding in on a white horse? It's not going to happen. An international group, e.g. The Qataris? Why would they?

Our only hope is a locally led group who have the clubs best interests at heart - even if this means League One. As there is no-one, even small scale, on the horizon it seems an obvious next step for those involved in the protests to look to lead some kind of attempt to create a consortium to buy the club. They have almost painted themselves into a corner to do so (or at least been painted into a corner by

Although from what I've read Wayne Wild is not and has never been involved in the protests. In fact, I'm sure he has been fairly critical in recent times.

We shall see what happens if an offer is made to Venkys - at least we will know it was genuine - even if Venkys turn it down.

Please stay true to your previous posts and keep an open mind.

[47er]

Please read more closely what I have written, especially in relation to timescale.

My concern is fans have been asked to support one set of intentions when there may have been an objective which people did not understand they were supporting.

But if they had known it would involve local supporters being involved in owning the club and getting rid of Venkys, they would have supported it wouldn't they? With knobs on I'd suggest.

In any case its highly likely that the protests have evolved more than setting out deliberately to deceive people. If experience brings more knowledge which leads to different goals, what's wrong with that? Hardly inconsistent with the original aims anyway.

[OscarRaven]

In any case its highly likely that the protests have evolved more than setting out deliberately to deceive people. If experience brings more knowledge which leads to different goals, what's wrong with that? Hardly inconsistent with the original aims anyway.

Allow me to spell it out for you in a way Paul won't. BRAG have a vested interest in the club getting relegated to complete thier takeover (they don't have the resources to takeover a premier leauge club).

How many people thought they were signing up to that?

I'm afraid this group has lost any credibilty in my eyes and if they think 40 people at thier open supporters gives them a mandate then they are mistaken.

I want Venky's out as much as the next person, but I don't believe that it has to be via the oblivion of administration, points deductions and free fall through the leagues.

I would also question the motives of any buyer that would advocate this to bring the club within range of thier buying power.

Best interests of Blackburn Rovers?

[yoda]

Allow me to spell it out for you in a way Paul won't. BRAG have a vested interest in the club getting relegated to complete thier takeover (they don't have the resources to takeover a premier leauge club).

How many people thought they were signing up to that?

If the venkys stay in charge much longer, this message board could make a bid

[Exiled in Toronto]

Allow me to spell it out for you in a way Paul won't. BRAG have a vested interest in the club getting relegated to complete thier takeover (they don't have the resources to takeover a premier leauge club).

How many people thought they were signing up to that?

I'm afraid this group has lost any credibilty in my eyes and if they think 40 people at thier open supporters gives them a mandate then they are mistaken.

I want Venky's out as much as the next person, but I don't believe that it has to be via the oblivion of administration, points deductions and free fall through the leagues.

I would also question the motives of any buyer that would advocate this to bring the club within range of thier buying power.

Best interests of Blackburn Rovers?

It has been obvious for a while imo that there have been, to be polite, parallel agendas and that the goal of keeping BRFC in the PL has been compromised by the reality that there would probably be a 30 million difference in the price tag to anyone with aspirations to takeover the club.

It is clear that relegation increases the chances of the Raos legging it, probably at minimal cost, but given their track record, nothing is certain. What is certain is that relegation vastly increases the chances of selling ALL our good players and tumbling further down the leagues. Personally I would much rather we stay up and hope the Raos get fed up anyway.

[Majiball]

I think there's a world of difference between a protest leading to a takeover and a takeover leading/being involved in the protests. I hope it's not true.

If it is given all we've experienced since the chicken people descended then I wouldn't want any new era to start on a foundation of lies. All along we have been told the protests are a vehicle to get Kean/Venky's out, not to maneuver someone in.

[Paul]

Thanks Oscar. I was reluctant to put It like that but it's what I feel

[yoda]

It has been obvious for a while imo that there have been, to be polite, parallel agendas and that the goal of keeping BRFC in the PL has been compromised by the reality that there would probably be a 30 million difference in the price tag to anyone with aspirations to takeover the club.

It is clear that relegation increases the chances of the Raos legging it, probably at minimal cost, but given their track record, nothing is certain. What is certain is that relegation vastly increases the chances of selling ALL our good players and tumbling further down the leagues. Personally I would much rather we stay up and hope the Raos get fed up anyway.

I think it is obvious that the Raos are already fed up, the question is how much damage will they do before leaving

[47er]

Allow me to spell it out for you in a way Paul won't. BRAG have a vested interest in the club getting relegated to complete thier takeover (they don't have the resources to takeover a premier leauge club).

How many people thought they were signing up to that?

I'm afraid this group has lost any credibilty in my eyes and if they think 40 people at thier open supporters gives them a mandate then they are mistaken.

I want Venky's out as much as the next person, but I don't believe that it has to be via the oblivion of administration, points deductions and free fall through the leagues.

I would also question the motives of any buyer that would advocate this to bring the club within range of thier buying power.

Best interests of Blackburn Rovers?

I certainly needed someone to spell it out as I'm not usually into conspiracy theories! So Glen and others actually want Rovers to be relegated so they can buy the club cheaper? So why are whoever's involved, meeting with "the Chief Executive" in the next 36 hours? We're not relegated yet are we?

In any case it would be more expensive to run a Championship club than a Premiership one wouldn't it? Loss of TV money and lower crowds etc.

If we are to be relegated I'd much prefer a group like that to be running us than Venkys. In fact I can't think of many people I would want running the club less than Venkys. George Osborne possibly.

So the protests must continue so that we put the players off and we end up relegated? Is That the hypothesis? Bit hysterical isn't it?

By the way, I asked but no-one responded--who is the Chief Executive of the Club? Is it Madame Desai and is that who they're meeting with? Or Vinny Rao? Or Paul Hunt? Progress, if any, will be glacial if it isn't Desai Id think.

[steven]

We just have to wait for the muppets in Pune to hand back the keys. I just hope they aren't planning to hand them to an administrator.

[47er]

I think there's a world of difference between a protest leading to a takeover and a takeover leading/being involved in the protests. I hope it's not true.

If it is given all we've experienced since the chicken people descended then I wouldn't want any new era to start on a foundation of lies. All along we have been told the protests are a vehicle to get Kean/Venky's out, not to maneuver someone in.

But if you maneuver them out, somebody must come in! Nothing wrong with planning for that if you can. Rovers won't go down because of protests. That argument is grotesque. Rovers will go down because we were appallingly managed by the owners who, amongst other idiocies sacked a terrific manager and appointed/retained a crap one. Let's leave the "its the Rovers fans fault to the media".

If we go down, a consortium involving local businessmen who are supporters would be as good as it gets surely, unless another Jack comes forward.

[rovers11]

This is big news if true. Don't think a fans takeover is a viable option. However, the big news is that this would suggest venky's are willing to sell.

The two Ian's will take over imo with supporters buying a small stake and wayne wild being made a non executive director.

[PAFELL]

Allow me to spell it out for you in a way Paul won't. BRAG have a vested interest in the club getting relegated to complete thier takeover (they don't have the resources to takeover a premier leauge club).

How many people thought they were signing up to that?

I'm afraid this group has lost any credibilty in my eyes and if they think 40 people at thier open supporters gives them a mandate then they are mistaken.

I want Venky's out as much as the next person, but I don't believe that it has to be via the oblivion of administration, points deductions and free fall through the leagues.

I would also question the motives of any buyer that would advocate this to bring the club within range of thier buying power.

Best interests of Blackburn Rovers?

Full respect for this post. You have said what I feel and have thought for weeks. A few weeks ago I heard something, which I cannot yet repeat that got my back up on very very simular lines to what you have posted. Which questioned my trust in those who were organising the protests.

If it is true that the protests started with good intentions. Then changed to a quest to try for a takeover. I think if BRAG had said this - people would have respected that. But if it is true that people have been going about this very snide and using supporters for their own aims. Then that is dsgusting.

Venkys are bad owners that can not be disputed. But what if they knew - not saying they did - that the real nature of the protests were designed to get the club off their hands. Therefore withdrew from putting funds into the club - to sack Kean and for the last transfer window - which has now put the club at risk of relegation. That also raises questions.

[DaveLad1]

Apparently, This article is in todays Sunday People.

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc248/DaveZoOm/TO.jpg

[OscarRaven]

I certainly needed someone to spell it out as I'm not usually into conspiracy theories! So Glen and others actually want Rovers to be relegated so they can buy the club cheaper? So why are whoever's involved, meeting with "the Chief Executive" in the next 36 hours? We're not relegated yet are we?

Your right, you have read far to much into it. Your not used to conspiracy theories.

No my point and what I inferred from Paul was that it as accepted by the protest group that relegation might be needed to achieve thier goals.

They see it as a neccessary evil. I believe this is a minority view amongst fans.

Do I think they are activley working to get Rovers relegated. No not at all. But hardly makes them 'model' supporters does it and I certainly don't want them speaking on my behalf.

I want the club back from Venky's but in an ordered and structured way.