[Archived] Venky's willing to sell?

[yoda]

I disagree with that Daniel. If someone was to bid on the asumption that BRFC were in the Prem next season I'm sure Venkeys would consider it. However bids based on BRFC being relegated would surely be dismissed out of hand until our fate is known.

Problem is who would bid for the Premier League option at this moment in time? Balotelli is about the only one daft enough within football that I can readily bring to mind.

maybe they are considering, hence coco off to India

[ABBEY]

Nah cocos off to venky land because he's sick of cyber sex!

[greco]

we are the V´s main marketing tool, leading the line in their global expansion. why on earth would they sell as long as we are in the prem.?

they wil only sell, when we arent worth the pr and trouble. Imo we need to be a championship club, before that happens.

[Andy]

Three local groups are considering bidding for the club...would it not be a better option for all three to join together and make one big offer?

[LeChuck]

Three local groups are considering bidding for the club...would it not be a better option for all three to join together and make one big offer?

You know the old saying...too many cooks spoil the broth.

If you look at smaller clubs that have been and continue to be successful in the PL over recent years, all of them (perhaps with the exception of West Brom) have a single, wealthy individual at the heart of it all.

Having a big group of people with little individual money wouldn't allow us to be a Premier League club.

[Daniel Louis Grabko (Dan)]

Three local groups are considering bidding for the club...would it not be a better option for all three to join together and make one big offer?

Yes, it would be better, simply put.

You know the old saying...too many cooks spoil the broth.

If you look at smaller clubs that have been and continue to be successful in the PL over recent years, all of them (perhaps with the exception of West Brom) have a single, wealthy individual at the heart of it all.

Having a big group of people with little individual money wouldn't allow us to be a Premier League club.

While it would be a consortium of a sort as is the term of the moment it seems, the only thing that the different owners would have to agree on is the Club's Board of Directors and the goals to strive for within the Club's limits. Then let the experts that have been placed on the Board by the combined ownership structure go about the business of executing, and don't get involved too much, except to keep the Board on point. Have one Board representative from each group and the rest are football business experts like JW, TF, etc. Better yet, merge all three groups together under one banner - agree that the supporters will have a controlling interest, and move forward from there.

LeChuck, virtually all the major nations and empires in the world were also once ruled by a single wealthy individual/family at the heart of it all.

[Daniel Louis Grabko (Dan)]

I disagree with that Daniel. If someone was to bid on the asumption that BRFC were in the Prem next season I'm sure Venkeys would consider it. However bids based on BRFC being relegated would surely be dismissed out of hand until our fate is known.

Problem is who would bid for the Premier League option at this moment in time? Balotelli is about the only one daft enough within football that I can readily bring to mind.

I can see your point, on the basis that you mean if someone came in with a bid that gave Venkys a substantial profit on their outlay. Problem is that you've already argued against that eventuality with your second point, which I completely agree with. Hence Venkys aren't even going to acknowledge any contact at the moment.

[LeChuck]

While it would be a consortium of a sort as is the term of the moment it seems, the only thing that the different owners would have to agree on is the Club's Board of Directors and the goals to strive for within the Club's limits. Then let the experts that have been placed on the Board by the combined ownership structure go about the business of executing, and don't get involved too much, except to keep the Board on point. Have one Board representative from each group and the rest are football business experts like JW, TF, etc. Better yet, merge all three groups together under one banner - agree that the supporters will have a controlling interest, and move forward from there.

LeChuck, virtually all the major nations and empires in the world were also once ruled by a single wealthy individual/family at the heart of it all.

I'm not saying what you propose isn't a better alternative to Venky's ownership, because I think it is, but overwhelming evidence suggests that town/small city clubs need wealthy individuals to finance survival in the PL.

It was generally accepted that we wouldn't have continued to be a Premier League club for much longer under the Trust without investment - there was only so long you could make the likes of Benjani your big summer signing and expect to survive. Even a well run consortium with a competent board would only take us back to those days (at best).

There are signs that this might be changing; the January transfer window was possibly the quietest for a long time, and the financial fair play rules might restrict the influence of wealthy individuals, but for now it continues to be the case that they are needed for stable Premier League clubs.

Bolton Wanderers - Eddie Davies

Fulham - Mohamed Al-Fayed

Stoke City - Peter Coates

Wigan Athletic - Dave Whelan

Wolves - Steve Morgan

West Brom - Jeremy Peace

The minimum individual wealth there is £40 million, and without that backing it is unlikely any of those teams would be in the Premier League. I'd put us in that bracket of clubs in terms of size (i.e. ability to generate their own cash).

There are wealthy owners queuing up in the Championship for a crack at Premier League. Without some individual wealth to back the club, even the best laid plans wouldn't allow us to retain our PL status for very long unless the make-up of Premier League football alters significantly in a short period of time.

[TBTF]

Which is why the Supporters option of emptying their piggy banks is doomed before it starts unless it is part of someone else's bid.it. Hasn't got a prayer on it's own

[miqaayil]

i feel coco is running there as he expects a roll-over at etihad ....this weekend

[yoda]

we are the V´s main marketing tool, leading the line in their global expansion. why on earth would they sell as long as we are in the prem.?

they wil only sell, when we arent worth the pr and trouble. Imo we need to be a championship club, before that happens.

Have they moved into the Chaos management field selling lectures and books?

Three local groups are considering bidding for the club...would it not be a better option for all three to join together and make one big offer?

BRAVO sir!

Blackburn Rovers supporters Against the Venkys Organisation

[mark1875]

Boss of Blackburn sponsor behind fans' trust plan to buy the club

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17114798?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[Burrells Boy]

More non-alcoholic duty free for CoCo, its been a while since he replenished.

[PAFELL]

Just a thought if venkys were not prepared to sell to qatar who offered a substantial amount. What makes people believe they will take the cheap option?

If not prepared to sell for a profit. Why would they do it at a loss?

[Al]

More cold water from Pafell. The one who never goes to matches but has taken over this site and is boring us to death with his negativity.

[mark1875]

Just a thought if venkys were not prepared to sell to qatar who offered a substantial amount. What makes people believe they will take the cheap option?

If not prepared to sell for a profit. Why would they do it at a loss?

The difference could well be on the division we are in! It's funny how the Qatar bit went away, despite them being desperate to buy a premier league club.

[yoda]

More cold water from Pafell. The one who never goes to matches but has taken over this site and is boring us to death with his negativity.

+100

[Exiled in Toronto]

Why certain posters think we all want to read how bored/annoyed they are with another poster when there is an ignore button they could use is beyond me.

Back to the topic: if they sell now they have a huge loss of face; if they sell after we go down they have a huge loss of cash. I think they are just holding on hoping against hope that things improve.

[OhmiBRFC]

The difference could well be on the division we are in! It's funny how the Qatar bit went away, despite them being desperate to buy a premier league club.

I can't see how people are as rich as they are would just make one bid to be honest. Doesn't sit right with me.

[PAFELL]

More cold water from Pafell. The one who never goes to matches but has taken over this site and is boring us to death with his negativity.

First I go to what matches I can afford to do. Both jin time and money.

Second I asked a reasonable few questions.

[mark1875]

I can't see how people are as rich as they are would just make one bid to be honest. Doesn't sit right with me.

It was a low level enquiry made to low level people. People are getting carried away thinking they made a stone cold cash offer for the club, if they wanted the club they would have persisted with it, or even looked at other premier league clubs yet they did neither.

[rovers11]

I can't see how people are as rich as they are would just make one bid to be honest. Doesn't sit right with me.

Me neither. Makes me think they aren't really that bothered about owning us. Do we really want our next owner to be ones that don't care about the club. Short term they would chuck a load of cash at it. But what happens when they get bored and want their money back. Think you'll probably get that answer in the next few years when chelsa and city suffer that fate.

[Parsonblue]

Boss of Blackburn sponsor behind fans' trust plan to buy the club

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17114798?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Reading this makes me realise that between Venky's and the Wild proposals the club really is between a rock and a hard place. In Venky's we have owners who don't seem to care about the club and don't seem prepared to finance it properly. In Wild we have a supporter who clearly cares for the club but whose proposals I simply don't believe to be realistic at Championship level, let alone for the Premier League. Neither offers much prospect of long term security for the club. One can but hope, and sadly, hope is all it is, that an individual with sufficient wealth to sustain it fancies buying a football club. The days of local businessmen coming together to support their local club are long gone in terms of the Premier League. Indeed, the Championship is becoming increasingly competitive financially these days - simply look at the money that Leicester City have thrown at it trying to win promotion.

I suspect the most realistic scenario is that Venky's will retain possession of the club, irrespective of division, for at least the next twelve months or more as there is still money to be made from parachute payments, TV and, of course, player sales. The fact that the likes of Josh Morris, who has had a very indifferent season in the reserves, is being offered another contract suggests that the Venky's and Kean are looking toward next season with a view to using the players who are now occupying the next to bottom place in the Reserve League.

[PAFELL]

It was a low level enquiry made to low level people. People are getting carried away thinking they made a stone cold cash offer for the club, if they wanted the club they would have persisted with it, or even looked at other premier league clubs yet they did neither.

So your saying Kamy is lying then. Because I asked him that question. He confirmed it was NOT low level people talking to low level people. Personally I believe the account given by Kamy.

[yoda]

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mark1875, on 22 February 2012 - 17:07 PM, said:

It was a low level enquiry made to low level people. People are getting carried away thinking they made a stone cold cash offer for the club, if they wanted the club they would have persisted with it, or even looked at other premier league clubs yet they did neither.

So your saying Kamy is lying then. Because I asked hum that question. He confirmed it was NOT low level people talking to low level people.

What are you on FFS?

Anyone below Mrs D is low level in this regime