Stuart Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 IF Kean is staying as seems likely (not my preferred choice btw) and IF he manages to keep us up despite the rudderless fiasco we currently are then you could almost argue he'll deserve the Manager of the Year gong. Just a thought... If Kean keeps us up, it's nailed on he'll get manager of the year. Talk about bittersweet.
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den Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Get a grip man The Rovers will be here long after the chicken slayers have fled The point was that after Jack Walker, no-one knew what would happen. You're probably right though Yoda, football clubs are fairly secure businesses. This surprised me. What do these clubs have in common?: Charlton 1984 Middlesbrough 1986 Tranmere 1987 Newport County 1989 Walsall 1990 Northampton 1992 Kettering 1992 Aldershot 1992 Maidstone 1992 Hartlepool 1994 Barnet 1994 Exeter 1994, 2003 Gillingham 1995 Doncaster 1997 Millwall 1997 Bournemouth 1997, 2008 Darlington 1997, 2009 Chester 1998, 2009 Hereford 1998 Portsmouth 1999, 2010 Crystal Palace 1999, 2010 Oxford Utd 1999 Barrow 1999 Swindon 2000, 2002 Scarborough 2000 Hull 2001 QPR 2001 Chesterfield 2001 Leicester 2002 Barnsley 2002 Carlisle 2002 Notts County 2002 Bury 2002 Bradford 2002 Port Vale 2002 Lincoln City 2002 Swansea City 2002 York 2002 Halifax Town 2002, 2008 Derby 2003 Ipswich 2003 Huddersfield 2003 Oldham 2003 MK Dons 2003 Wimbledon 2003 Wrexham 2004 Cambridge 2005 Crawley Town 2006 Rotherham 2006, 2008 Leeds United 2007 Boston United 2007 Southampton 2008 Luton 2008 Stockport 2009 Salisbury 2009 answer - it's a complete list of football clubs that have entered administration or a CVA in the last 25 years.
yoda Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 The point was that after Jack Walker, no-one knew what would happen. You're probably right though Yoda, football clubs are fairly secure businesses. This surprised me. What do these clubs have in common?: Charlton 1984 Middlesbrough 1986 Tranmere 1987 Newport County 1989 Walsall 1990 Northampton 1992 Kettering 1992 Aldershot 1992 Maidstone 1992 Hartlepool 1994 Barnet 1994 Exeter 1994, 2003 Gillingham 1995 Doncaster 1997 Millwall 1997 Bournemouth 1997, 2008 Darlington 1997, 2009 Chester 1998, 2009 Hereford 1998 Portsmouth 1999, 2010 Crystal Palace 1999, 2010 Oxford Utd 1999 Barrow 1999 Swindon 2000, 2002 Scarborough 2000 Hull 2001 QPR 2001 Chesterfield 2001 Leicester 2002 Barnsley 2002 Carlisle 2002 Notts County 2002 Bury 2002 Bradford 2002 Port Vale 2002 Lincoln City 2002 Swansea City 2002 York 2002 Halifax Town 2002, 2008 Derby 2003 Ipswich 2003 Huddersfield 2003 Oldham 2003 MK Dons 2003 Wimbledon 2003 Wrexham 2004 Cambridge 2005 Crawley Town 2006 Rotherham 2006, 2008 Leeds United 2007 Boston United 2007 Southampton 2008 Luton 2008 Stockport 2009 Salisbury 2009 answer - it's a complete list of football clubs that have entered administration or a CVA in the last 25 years. And they still exist
BuckyRover Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 And they still exist And most of them are lower league and so we could have been in the same position had Jack not come along. Moot point
Stuart Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 And most of them are lower league and so we could have been in the same position had Jack not come along. Moot point Or even non-League. Poor Darlington may be a Sunday league team this time next week.
Majiball Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Hey great idea for a bit of fun....... So there you are sat high up in a tree at a garden party in Pune with a high powered snipers rifle containing just 3 bullets and with a perfect view of the top table. Around the table are seated Balaji, Venkatesh, Mrs D, Dastardly and Muttley. So who gets it? For my part Venky and Muttley might just live to tell the tale. Surely with only 3 shots and five targets one would just wait till 2-3 heads were aligned?
yoda Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Or even non-League. Poor Darlington may be a Sunday league team this time next week. I remember celebrating in the Manxman after we stuffed Manu at home, Shearer had scored and we went on to win the PL, a couple of the mates said are you not getting carried away a bit, I said no, enjoy it while you can, you may not see this again. Thats one of the benifits of following since 1965, you learn to take the high's with the low's
Devon Rover Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Or even non-League. Poor Darlington may be a Sunday league team this time next week. One of the teams on the list, Exeter City, is my local team. It amassed significant debts and had to enter into a CVA after being relegated and financially mismanaged by two crooks who were senior directors of the club. There remain allegations of financial wrongdoing by others involved in the web of ownership/executive level management at the time. Those crooks shrouded their mismanagement in bold statements and high profile gestures including parading a celebrity pop star (Michael Jackson) and others around as 'fans' of the club. Sound familiar to Rovers' overlords and their celeb pals eg Akon? Ultimately, the ridding of the club of these criminals (they have been convicted) was perhaps the start of a long road to redemption as a small city club maintained through a Supporters Trust. Exeter now compete in League One having been a debt-ridden struggling Conference club when their former Directors were kicked out. I would be sad to see Rovers enter administration and deeply saddened if they had to start from anywhere near the depths that Exeter did. But I firmly believe that Exeter's battle was worthwhile to rid it of the criminals and the parasites who were leeching celebrity status and supporters' cash and to re-establish its 'community club' tradition. Applying the same logic to Rovers' situation (which I stress is different and does not involve convicted criminals or any evidenced criminal behaviour) I would be willing for Rovers to join that long list of clubs if it was to be set free of Venkys and put on a similar path to redemption and security. I would be far, far happier if we were released by Venkys without becoming another name on that list.
J*B Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Kean's just as bad as Venkys for me. Hes played on their nativity, back stabbed (allegedly) and made money from it all. Aswell as making numerous unforgivable comments. I'll always support Rovers, but Kean and Venkys will never have my support. I won't be happy till they're both gone, and I'd happily take league 1 football for that reality.
47er Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 IF Kean is staying as seems likely (not my preferred choice btw) and IF he manages to keep us up despite the rudderless fiasco we currently are then you could almost argue he'll deserve the Manager of the Year gong. Just a thought... and a very bad one.
ben_the_beast Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 IF Kean is staying as seems likely (not my preferred choice btw) and IF he manages to keep us up despite the rudderless fiasco we currently are then you could almost argue he'll deserve the Manager of the Year gong. Just a thought... I'd take it
USABlue Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 Surely with only 3 shots and five targets one would just wait till 2-3 heads were aligned? Lee HArvey Oswald did it with just one bullet
RoversSG Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 IF Kean is staying as seems likely (not my preferred choice btw) and IF he manages to keep us up despite the rudderless fiasco we currently are then you could almost argue he'll deserve the Manager of the Year gong. Just a thought... If we do stay up, it will have nothing to do with Kean but the awfulness of the other teams around us. The way the season is going, it looks like you just have to be incompetent to survive.
eire3382 Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 If kean won any award the real question is what the hell were the other 19 managers doing! He is the worst manager in the league, there will always be teams who strugle but this man took a mid table team, brought in his players and now where are we. He is as much to blame as Venkys, as he himself keeps saying he talks to the owners weekly or whatever. He must be having some kind of input in this mess.
pancini Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 I remember celebrating in the Manxman after we stuffed Manu at home, Shearer had scored and we went on to win the PL, a couple of the mates said are you not getting carried away a bit, I said no, enjoy it while you can, you may not see this again. Thats one of the benifits of following since 1965, you learn to take the high's with the low's You dont remember very well then Yoda as the season we won the league we lost both home and away against ManU
yoda Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 You dont remember very well then Yoda as the season we won the league we lost both home and away against ManU Didn't say it was the same season
PAFELL Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 People on twitter saying there is going to be a bit of Rovers / venkys publicity in the Indian Media this weekend. Maybe worth keeping an eye on.
rovers11 Posted January 21, 2012 Author Posted January 21, 2012 People on twitter saying there is going to be a bit of Rovers / venkys publicity in the Indian Media this weekend. Maybe worth keeping an eye on. Keep your eye on The Economic Times of India
thenodrog Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 Surely with only 3 shots and five targets one would just wait till 2-3 heads were aligned? Easier to fix a bayonet. Is this really a thread about the Indian media? They dont like it up em Capt Mainwareing.
Stuart Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 Link to article in Indian Press A fairly benign article really, although it does at least draw some attention to the failure of Venkys in the football world. At Ewood Park, the Rovers' home base, Venky's was received with the same fervour reserved for messiahs However, I certainly don't remember at any point receiving Venkys as messiahs??
Devon Rover Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 Apart from some clear inaccuracies, thats a pretty good read and I hope will be seen by many people in India (Kamy- any idea of readership numbers?). Thanks to those Rovers fans who played a part in getting a quite lengthy article compiled and published. I have felt for a while (since talk of taking out a full page 'article' in Indian press several months ago) that the only way to have any impact on Venkys would be to embarass them in their own national media. I hope this is about to happen. Not sure what the outcome will be but they deserve all the criticism they could get and hopefully some shaming into action through being painted as an Indian business failing in the international market.
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