[Archived] Rovers v. Newcastle Preview - February 1, 2012

[misterbigalow]

im not sticking up for kean. we are were we are due to his inability to manage but i dont blame him for tonights loss. i blame the players on this one

You're right, the players are to blame. Unfortunately they're being managed by Steve Kean so the blame then goes to him. How many times are people going to say 'how did Blackburn lose that game?' and 'how unlucky were Blackburn!', it'll probably be a record number come the end of the season, ha!

[Tom]

I know it wont be a popular opinion but I think people are being too harsh on Modeste. He was brought in as probably a third choice striker, held the ball up brilliantly and won loads in the air, created chances and won us a penalty.

Yes a strikers job is to score goals and he looked a little nervous in front of goal and snatched at a few but he constantly had the run and brought the disappointing wingers into the game well.

David Dunn missed by far our best chance tonight followed by Formica and Dann.

[Speedie Dived]

Kean is a bad manager. BUT he was not to blame for tonights defeat - he was NOT ON THE PITCH. We are all sore at Rovers losing. All gutted. But Rovers had 25 chances to Newcastle 6. Even had a penalty.

Players fired blanks. Even sky said they cannot believe how Rovers lost tonight. They slag rovers off first chance they get.

We missed chances in the 1st half granted and played well, but Pardew made one sub at half time, as Ben Arfa tossed the game off and it completely shut us down in the second half. Kean could not react, that is his job, that's where the blame lies. He changes players but never ever alters the system.

[hesfromburn]

I know it wont be a popular opinion but I think people are being too harsh on Modeste. He was brought in as probably a third choice striker, held the ball up brilliantly and won loads in the air, created chances and won us a penalty.

Yes a strikers job is to score goals and he looked a little nervous in front of goal and snatched at a few but he constantly had the run and brought the disappointing wingers into the game well.

David Dunn missed by far our best chance tonight followed by Formica and Dann.

If we can ram goodwille and modeste together we would have quite a player.

Modeste is a lot more of a handful than goodwillie but he cant finish and im guessing thats why he was loaned out.

I doubt he will get many chances so tonight he should have took them, with yak coming back and I expect goodwillie to be infront of him

[ross-shire rover]

BBC Website :- "They can't score and they can't defend." Funny how teams who get relegated complain about bad luck, and always look for excuses.

Really surprised about fans on here now pretending Kean is not to blame, just Venkys. To me they're pretty inseparable - they're both totally out of their depth and both got us into this mess. Look at the league table tonight. Look where we are and look where Sunderland are - 8th ! Decisive ownership and hiring a decent manager. If only...

[roverandout]

people say we battered newcastle tonight but did we? i cant recall krul having to make any real saves bar the penalty, he had alot of easy catches from perderson's ###### corners, we may have peppered newcastle goalmouth with crosses but they defended them well, collocini was excellent in marshalling their backline for most of the game, newcastle looked garbage going forward because they were missing cabaye, tioti, ba and cisse, we had a full strength team out bar yakubu so we were beaten by a team missing half their players, we played well and put in the effort but we look clueless when it comes to opening up a defence with a bit of guile!!

[beastlove]

Cannot believe we lost this match. We created so many good chances. It was just one of those games were we would never score. If Venkys had supported Kean in the window we might have been able to bring in a better striker who could have scored the chances we created.

Pardew didn't shut up shop or tactically out class us, he was just very lucky. We hit the post, missed a pen, had two cleared off the line, hit the bar and missed several one on ones.

[Exiled_Rover]

Yes I'm serious. I thought we were poor again tonight.

Maybe the stats say we battered them. I know what I saw. Pardew gave Kean a masterclass in defending a 1-0 lead and frustrating the opposition. Drew us right out and killed it at the end on the counter. Cold and merciless. Absolutely PERFECT evening for them. We meanwhile keep on breaking that zero clean sheet record.

I'm going to assume you went to the game tonight, PAFELL. A few sporadic moments of decent passing amongst large periods of dross.

Still, you carry on making excuses for our position and 9 home defeats this season. I don't excuses, I don't want shallow "positives", I don't want stats, I want points.

A master class in defending a one nil lead? Surely you jest? Unless having a team camp in your half is part of his plan. One bounce here or there and it's 2 or 3-1. Newcastle will feel like they won the lottery on the coach back.

[Speedie Dived]

I know it wont be a popular opinion but I think people are being too harsh on Modeste. He was brought in as probably a third choice striker, held the ball up brilliantly and won loads in the air, created chances and won us a penalty.

Yes a strikers job is to score goals and he looked a little nervous in front of goal and snatched at a few but he constantly had the run and brought the disappointing wingers into the game well.

David Dunn missed by far our best chance tonight followed by Formica and Dann.

Have to agree, Modeste looked good up to the most vital ingredient, sticking the bloody thing in the net. But that's why he has probably never fulfilled his early potential and not got a great goal scoring record . He will be a plus for me though til the end of the year.

I know he was involved in the early cock up for the goal, but Petrovic is growing as a player, his eye for a pass is coming through.

[PAFELL]

Who's responsible for the other 22 results this season?

We are talking about tonight. Read the thread not other matches FFS

[cesus]

I know it wont be a popular opinion but I think people are being too harsh on Modeste. He was brought in as probably a third choice striker, held the ball up brilliantly and won loads in the air, created chances and won us a penalty.

Yes a strikers job is to score goals and he looked a little nervous in front of goal and snatched at a few but he constantly had the run and brought the disappointing wingers into the game well.

David Dunn missed by far our best chance tonight followed by Formica and Dann.

I appreciate your sentiment but this is the PREMIER league and if that is the standard of finishing from our 2nd/3rd choice striker we are doomed. The Yak would have buried at least 2 of those chances and maybe I'm being harsh on the Yak there. I will agree that his hold up play looked very promising but his finishing was woeful.

Gutted after tonight we battered them but gave away 2 bloody awful goals! Pah can't really be bothered getting into the Kean/Players who's to blame game.

[Tom]

people say we battered newcastle tonight but did we? i cant recall krul having to make any real saves bar the penalty, he had alot of easy catches from perderson's ###### corners, we may have peppered newcastle goalmouth with crosses but they defended them well, collocini was excellent in marshalling their backline for most of the game, newcastle looked garbage going forward because they were missing cabaye, tioti, ba and cisse, we had a full strength team out bar yakubu so we were beaten by a team missing half their players, we played well and put in the effort but we look clueless when it comes to opening up a defence with a bit of guile!!

One off the bar

One off the line

Rebound hit wide

2 chances for Modeste when the keeper came out

Modeste 1-1 that he thrashed at

Scott Dan header from 6 yards - straight at the keeper

Formica wide from a few yards

Penalty missed

Simpson somehow blocking a late Givet effort

Thats off the top of my head, we battered them and did create chances but ultimately failed to take them.

That's football, look at the Arsenal game, in that we scored more than we had shots I think.

[PAFELL]

Yes I'm serious. I thought we were poor again tonight.

Maybe the stats say we battered them. I know what I saw. Pardew gave Kean a masterclass in defending a 1-0 lead and frustrating the opposition. Drew us right out and killed it at the end on the counter. Cold and merciless. Absolutely PERFECT evening for them. We meanwhile keep on breaking that zero clean sheet record.

I'm going to assume you went to the game tonight, PAFELL. A few sporadic moments of decent passing amongst large periods of dross.

Still, you carry on making excuses for our position and 9 home defeats this season. I don't excuses, I don't want shallow "positives", I don't want stats, I want points.

You really are on WUMMING form tonight.

I think I'll leave it there before I say something to you that gets me banned.

I am only talking about tonight. I have not mentioned position or other matches.

[roverandout]

yes but we didnt really create anything, we bombarded their goal with cross after cross after cross and everytime the result was the same, keepers' hands, we had a few pot shots at goal which either hit a defender or went over, wish people would watch the game more closely, not knocking anyone, im just saying!!

[Aberdeen Blue]

"Relegation? No chance"... Quote Billy Bullshit, care to re-consider Steve?

No thought not, everything fine in la la land dickheed!!!!

[roverandout]

tom, did krul have to pull off any great saves or any saves for that matter? 1, which was the penalty save which i have already mentioned, we hit the bar which means it was never going to be on target then, modeste's chances were half chances and never looked like going in, dann's header didnt really trouble krul as it was straight into his hands!!!

[Amo]

We are talking about tonight. Read the thread not other matches FFS

You really don't get it, do you?

I shall leave you to your ignorance.

[jim mk2]

I am only talking about tonight. I have not mentioned position or other matches.

And I'm talking about tonight too. Kean didn't kick the penalty but he is responsible for the defeat as much as he is entitled to take the plaudits when we win.

We lost at home - AGAIN. It's keeps on happening and as manager it's Kean's fault.

[jones_rover]

Frustrated beyond belief after that.

Tonight showed clearly the difference between having a manager who knows what he's doing and whatever job Kean thinks he is doing.

Looking at those team sheets before tonight we matched up better in almost every position to Newcastle.

The effort the players put in was all that can be expected but it all boils down in my opinion to the manager. With almost any other manager in the league I feel we wouldn't be in the position we find ourselves in right now.

It isn't Kean's fault he is clueless tactically but Pardew showed tonight how to set up a team to be successful in the Premier League. Albeit they were lucky to grab their first goal but they then wasted time, sat back, frustrated us, weren't afraid to take Ben Arfa off and put Ryan Taylor in on the right to stop Olsson rampaging forward and ground out a result.

These are the sort of games against a vastly weakened Newcastle team that you have to be winning at home to stay up and I'm afraid that with Kean in charge things aren't going to turn around any time soon. Who cares whether we passed the ball around nicely or kept possession better it all comes down to positive results, which at the moment seem to be few and far between

Ultimately this blame has to lie with the Venkys and we must now let them know in no uncertain terms they aren't wanted at this club. All they had to do when they came in to guarantee Premier League status for the foreseeable future was DO NOTHING. Just keep the vastly experienced Allardyce in charge as well as maintain the excellent club infrastructure such as John Williams, Tom Finn etc. However, it seems they have gone out of their way to screw us over and we are now paying the price.

Sorry for the rant but I felt the need to get this off my chest :!:

[cn174]

An 'unlucky' team doesn't miss 20 or whatever chances in a game including a pen, a bad team does. We didn't score because we played a striker who isn't really that good up front by himself. He caused their defence problems but he appeared to have the shooting prowess of Kaba Diawara.

We had countless corners which barely troubled them. Krul is a good keeper but a flapper, but managed to catch half of them.

We were playing a Newcastle team without three of their best players, a team with crap players such as Leon Best and James Perch playing for them. And we got beat 2-0. That's not unlucky, that's just not being good enough.

[DE.]

This was also a Newcastle team without their best players (as has just been mentioned in the post above me ). We couldn't have asked for a better time to play them.

I don't even know what you say to the players after that. Can you really praise them? "Good effort lads, except for the defending and finishing" ?

[Drover]

yes but we didnt really create anything, we bombarded their goal with cross after cross after cross and everytime the result was the same, keepers' hands, we had a few pot shots at goal which either hit a defender or went over, wish people would watch the game more closely, not knocking anyone, im just saying!!

We created a lot through the middle. I thought Modeste was good tonight. He lacked composure infront of goal but I feel that will improve. His build up play was excellent.

Dunn had a fairly good game ( missed penalty aside), Hoilett looked interested first half then slowly drifted away back into transferland.

Thought Dann was very poor tonight. Aside from a few good opportunities in front of goal his distribution out from the back was awful. Lost posession in ridiculous areas at times under no real pressure. He couldnt be blamed for the goal but he's just not been good enough every game ive seen this season. On that showing we desperately need Samba to get his head back and go for a Samba-Givet partnership at the back.

Pederson does a lot of running but seems extremely ineffective nowadays.

[Waggy76]

We are a bad team , and have been for 14 months , a bit unlucky in the 1st half but the 2nd half we were dreadful...

Bad team , bad manager who signs championship or league 1 players ..Is it any wonder we are in the bottom 3 ???

[2PAC 4 Blackburn]

Importantly when's the Yak back?

[AggyBlue]

We are talking about tonight. Read the thread not other matches FFS

You've repeated your opinion and posted the most since the game finished, out of interest, did you go?