[Archived] Rovers v. Newcastle Preview - February 1, 2012

[booth]

I have. V bolton, Jack Walker stand to be exact.

That's got to be the most animated the JW stand has ever been since someone slipped on a pie.

And in all fairness the Bolton game would have made Jesus Christ smash something.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

Can't understand the criticism of Pedersen's corner delivery. The first half it was excellent, resulting in a sitter for Givet, the keeper scrambling on numerous occasions, and a couple of good chances at the back post. Wasn't quite as good in the second half but nobody else in the squad can take one running up the Ewood slope so how about stop trying to blame it all on him AGAIN? Knew this would happen now Roberts has gone.

As for the seemingly guarded sympathy for people who aggresively persecute the protestors, do the people who think this suggest all Rovers fans who don't constantly get behind the team are confronted in the same manner? There's 1 or 2 around me who do nothing but shout abuse at certain players all match, just as I'm sure there are around everyone. I'd love nothing more than to give these idiots a good slap considering they cause more damage to the team than Glen + co ever have. But I'm sure they'd say they're entitled to express their own opinion without being accosted, just as Glen and co are.

[nellybc]

Can't understand the criticism of Pedersen's corner delivery. The first half it was excellent, resulting in a sitter for Givet, the keeper scrambling on numerous occasions, and a couple of good chances at the back post. Wasn't quite as good in the second half but nobody else in the squad can take one running up the Ewood slope so how about stop trying to blame it all on him AGAIN?

are you for real, if it was so excellent why did we not score from any of them ??

I am 100% blaming pedersen for the delivery of the set pieces. If he takes them, he is in charge. We had 14 if i remember correctly, i dont know how many he took but I can recall at least 6 from him that Kruhl claimed easily not scrambling. Its nearly half of the corner total. Its a shambles. Who do you want me to blame ??

Oh, silly me, i forgot about the slope!! Forget it!! Nobody else ever gets a chance to take one!! They are paid professionals, you mean not one of the other 10 is capable of delivering a better set piece ?? Pedersen will practise dead ball deliveries all week!!

I know for sure if my boss found that i failed miserably on 6 out of 14 tasks i would be in for a word, yet we continue to go, dont worry morten, try again!!

[LeChuck]

Can't understand the criticism of Pedersen's corner delivery.

Agreed. He set up 4 glorious chances that really should have resulted in goals from his set pieces (I think 2 corners and 2 free kicks).

Some people have set themselves so heavily against him in the past that there is no turning back for them now though, it's perhaps best if they say nothing rather than criticise when he's blatantly doing something well. Same for Dunn as well.

are you for real, if it was so excellent why did we not score from any of them ??

I am 100% blaming pedersen for the delivery of the set pieces. If he takes them, he is in charge. We had 14 if i remember correctly, i dont know how many he took but I can recall at least 6 from him that Kruhl claimed easily not scrambling. Its nearly half of the corner total. Its a shambles. Who do you want me to blame ??

Oh, silly me, i forgot about the slope!! Forget it!! Nobody else ever gets a chance to take one!! They are paid professionals, you mean not one of the other 10 is capable of delivering a better set piece ?? Pedersen will practise dead ball deliveries all week!!

I know for sure if my boss found that i failed miserably on 6 out of 14 tasks i would be in for a word, yet we continue to go, dont worry morten, try again!!

Wow...just...wow.

You know when people resort to comparing to a regular job that they don't really have a clue...

Most corners will result in the opposition clearing the ball. You seem to under the weird impression that every corner should create a chance. Two glorious chances from corners is a good return; one hit the bar from 5 yards, the other was hacked off the line. There is nothing else that can be done in the delivery of the set piece to overcome those two reasons for the ball not going in the goal.

[roversfan99]

Most of them looped straight into Krul's hands, especially in the second half.

[Commondore]

This Rovers team reeks of relegation after yesterday, games like those aganist Sunderland, Everton and Newcastle is a perfect example of the cornered fighter not even taking the few random opportunities he actually gets.

I was impressed with a lot of aspects of Modeste's game yesterday, but those two finishes on the half volley showed a complete lack of calm and composure. Both times the correct option would have been to bring the ball with him to get a one on one with the keeper, yet both times he tries difficult finishes a long way from goal without lifting his eyes for even a second to calculate his or the goalkeepers position. It was unbelievably bad the first time it happened, and almost hilariously so the second.

[Paul]

Glen nor Simon can control all of the protesters though no doubt some of them are young and maybe too full of enthusiasm and a naivety which can go with it.

That is a very polite way of putting it....................

[booth]

Can't understand the criticism of Pedersen's corner delivery. The first half it was excellent, resulting in a sitter for Givet, the keeper scrambling on numerous occasions, and a couple of good chances at the back post. Wasn't quite as good in the second half but nobody else in the squad can take one running up the Ewood slope so how about stop trying to blame it all on him AGAIN? Knew this would happen now Roberts has gone.

There's your answer, the second half he was taking corners from the other end and his delivery wasn't as good. So the majority of fans will remember and have seen clearly, the corners taken from the Blackburn End which weren't great in my opinion, and too near the goalkeeper. That said the lack of our players challenging the goalie and allowing him to easily collect has to be questioned too.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

There's your answer, the second half he was taking corners from the other end and his delivery wasn't as good. So the majority of fans will remember and have seen clearly, the corners taken from the Blackburn End which weren't great in my opinion, and too near the goalkeeper. That said the lack of our players challenging the goalie and allowing him to easily collect has to be questioned too.

So everyone in the Blackburn End missed us hitting the bar, having one cleared off the line, and some difficult balls in that their keeper flapped at and could have landed anywhere? Didn't realise myopia was such a problem, or maybe some people are just blinded by their desire to pick on certain players. Always been a lot of selective eyesight goes on when it comes to Pedersen, anything good is ignored and anything bad is ranted about.

[cmb211087]

In the second half we had Junior on the keeper at corners, says it all really.

[booth]

So everyone in the Blackburn End missed us hitting the bar, having one cleared off the line, and some difficult balls in that their keeper flapped at and could have landed anywhere? Didn't realise myopia was such a problem, or maybe some people are just blinded by their desire to pick on certain players. Always been a lot of selective eyesight goes on when it comes to Pedersen, anything good is ignored and anything bad is ranted about.

I said they will have remembered and seen it more clearly, it coming later in the game and at our end. His delivery wasn't great in the second half, right in front of the majority of our fans and consistently down the keepers throat. It wasn't just one bad corner, but like I said in his defense our attacking players weren't exactly challenging the goalie which is what's needed if you're going to be aiming the ball that near to the keeper.

[super_arran]

are you for real, if it was so excellent why did we not score from any of them ??

I am 100% blaming pedersen for the delivery of the set pieces. If he takes them, he is in charge. We had 14 if i remember correctly, i dont know how many he took but I can recall at least 6 from him that Kruhl claimed easily not scrambling. Its nearly half of the corner total. Its a shambles. Who do you want me to blame ??

Oh, silly me, i forgot about the slope!! Forget it!! Nobody else ever gets a chance to take one!! They are paid professionals, you mean not one of the other 10 is capable of delivering a better set piece ?? Pedersen will practise dead ball deliveries all week!!

I know for sure if my boss found that i failed miserably on 6 out of 14 tasks i would be in for a word, yet we continue to go, dont worry morten, try again!!

Are YOU for real?

The inswinging corners were being put on top of the keeper for a reason.

Where was the challenges? I remember Dann not even bothering to jump for one.

The outswinging corners were more driven which resulted in the chances mentioned.

How can you blame Peds for others not challenging?

Fair do's not all of his corners were brilliant, but the majority were.

Definition of a crap corner (IMO): either sailing right over the box, not making it in to the box or complete miss kick.

Other than that, someone should be attacking the ball when put in the box.

[Hasta]

So everyone in the Blackburn End missed us hitting the bar, having one cleared off the line, and some difficult balls in that their keeper flapped at and could have landed anywhere? Didn't realise myopia was such a problem, or maybe some people are just blinded by their desire to pick on certain players. Always been a lot of selective eyesight goes on when it comes to Pedersen, anything good is ignored and anything bad is ranted about.

My big problem with Pedersen is that we carry a player in the starting 11 just so he can take set pieces. Not complaining about his dead balls last night. It's the non-contribution he makes in an attacking sense in open play that bothers me.

[hesfromburn]

I have no sympathy for Kean's choice to play Dann in the last two games. Kean has been using the excuse of 'not having a settled back 4' all season, then just when it looks like we're getting better he takes out our best performing player (Hanley) and picks Dann who looks terrible. How many hospital balls or long punts upfield did he make?

AGREE! SPOT ON! Dann doesnt look good enough for this level He moves around like an elephant.

[Devon Rover]

My big problem with Pedersen is that we carry a player in the starting 11 just so he can take set pieces. Not complaining about his dead balls last night. It's the non-contribution he makes in an attacking sense in open play that bothers me.

Too much information, Hasta!

[Bluefudge]

Find it funny that Pedersen is slagged off for passing.

But Holliet never is..... Clean through second half just lay it off to Modeste.... But no once again he fails the final ball.

That is why he is still here and not been snapped up by a big club.

[Speedie Dived]

Agreed. He set up 4 glorious chances that really should have resulted in goals from his set pieces (I think 2 corners and 2 free kicks).

Some people have set themselves so heavily against him in the past that there is no turning back for them now though, it's perhaps best if they say nothing rather than criticise when he's blatantly doing something well. Same for Dunn as well.

Wow...just...wow.

You know when people resort to comparing to a regular job that they don't really have a clue...

Most corners will result in the opposition clearing the ball. You seem to under the weird impression that every corner should create a chance. Two glorious chances from corners is a good return; one hit the bar from 5 yards, the other was hacked off the line. There is nothing else that can be done in the delivery of the set piece to overcome those two reasons for the ball not going in the goal.

2 out of 14 is an abysmal rate of chances created from corners. His dead balls were awful too in the main.

Never been a huge critic of MGP, but he is not good enough now. By far the worst part of his game is his "bobbly" passing, how he cannot pass the ball crisply, without stabbing it into the floor, is beyond me.

[Amo]

2 out of 14 is an abysmal rate of chances created from corners. His dead balls were awful too in the main.

Never been a huge critic of MGP, but he is not good enough now. By far the worst part of his game is his "bobbly" passing, how he cannot pass the ball crisply, without stabbing it into the floor, is beyond me.

This is the thing about Pedersen. He takes the vast majority of set-pieces (including long-throws), so by the law of averages he's going to get some assists - at which point his fanclub start tooting their horns. But his actual success rate from set-pieces is dreadful. 2 assists this season, according to ESPN. So really, we're keeping a player in the side for set-pieces... who isn't very good at set-pieces. And you wonder why we've got problems.

[joey_big_nose]

2 out of 14 is an abysmal rate of chances created from corners. His dead balls were awful too in the main.

A bit bemused by this, Pedersen went through a long period of shyte dead balls earlier in the season. But the last few games he has been more than decent.

Not something I would pick on from yesterday's performance. The thing really missing was finishing, we created a lot of chances from dead ball and open play but lacked the composure to put them away.

[Glenn]

He continued to be aggressive and I never left where I was sat, at this point Glenn P came over and tried to defuse the situation.

To be fair, I was just trying to go home, but birdy sits on the row behind, you we on the row in front, so I didn't have a lot of choice. I know it was pushing it going to Ewood on my wedding anniversary, but getting in between two of Rovers most prominent fans who were going toe-to-toe really didn't go down well.

Oh and apparently there was a close up of me on Sky Sports looking cold and bored and yawning (which is understandable, I guess I was lucky I wasn't picking my nose or something).

Not my best of wedding anniversaries.

[roverandout]

instead of people slagging glen off, why dont you get off your arses and do something about our club going into the abyss? at least he is trying to make a difference, not like some of you pissing and moaning about how we are going down and yet you wont stand up and be counted, i am part of the protesters and proud to be so because i know at least i have tried to make our voices heard!!!

[Pitty]

Felt 2-0 flattered Newcastle, Rovers played well without getting any real clear chances, 2nd goal came when we was pushing for equaliser. However bad window was evident,

Must say tonight I did not enjoy the game, for these reasons,

I thought I would watch the second half with Simon, So sat where simon usally sits, As I approached my seat I got loads of abuse from birdie who was using language I will not repeat. He continued his abuse for a good five minutes with his wife joining in. I chose not to bite, because I go to rovers to watch the team win and support the players. I said to Simon, "How do you manage to sit here each week with this abuse?" Especially as he goes with his young son.

It the died off and we watched the match, At full time Birdie piped up again, with another round of abuse which included him trying to throw punches. I said to him "Birdie we come to football to watch football, there is little point falling out over a difference of opinion, he continued as did his wife, at this point i said to him " Its ok shouting your mouth off, but everyone sold their houses on Nuttall street when the new stadium was built bar you, who held Jack to ransom and took 2 and half times what your house was worth (Common Knowledge) When you are mouthing off, just remember you are here on Jacks cash. He continued to be aggressive and I never left where I was sat, at this point Glenn P came over and tried to defuse the situation. I left my seat and headed to the concourse where Birdie continued to try and throw punches and continued with his abuse, this continued outside the ground, until and number of supporters dragged him away and told him he was a discrace.

This behavour was disturbing. Many people have critisised protest, but it was once again a non protester who was being aggressive and trying ton cause issues. Throughout these protest despite the grief, I have had to keep my calm and take abuse on the chin, and even tonight I have took it on the chin, but that sort of supporter is a discrace, not only did he hold Jack to ransom, but he has the nerve to slag the everyday supporter off, for caring.

Like people have said, no one is bothered about your experience of the match last night. This is not the mullan or protest thread, its the match thread. Whats with the massive MULLAN on the back of your protest top about, is it in case people dont reconise you.

[Ossydave]

instead of people slagging glen off, why dont you get off your arses and do something about our club going into the abyss? at least he is trying to make a difference, not like some of you pissing and moaning about how we are going down and yet you wont stand up and be counted, i am part of the protesters and proud to be so because i know at least i have tried to make our voices heard!!!

Yawn, crawl out of his backside.

[47er]

Did you see 6 out of the 7 corners that the goalie got to ?? i think we had 14 corners in total. I lost count after 6 were claimed by kruhl. Its nearly half for gods sake - That is not good!!

Dead ball--------includes free-kicks,one in particular was near perfect------just needed a touch from N'Zonzi who couldn't quite get there.Several corners created clear chances and this happens a lot.

I did say his out-field play wasn't so hot.

[thenodrog]

Be interested on peoples view of the referee - for me he was either inept or bias - can never make my mind up when we have matches like last night.

Did OK but he punished two exceptionally timed tackles (which yet again illustrates that imo referees should actually have played football to a decent standard) and seemed lenient in his treatment of Newcastle players.