[Archived] Rovers v. Newcastle Preview - February 1, 2012

[thenodrog]

I find it quite amazing that people will refuse to blame Kean for the situation but will try to blame Glen!

Nowt new....

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[thenodrog]

Felt 2-0 flattered Newcastle, Rovers played well without getting any real clear chances, 2nd goal came when we was pushing for equaliser. However bad window was evident,

Must say tonight I did not enjoy the game, for these reasons,

I thought I would watch the second half with Simon, So sat where simon usally sits, As I approached my seat I got loads of abuse from birdie who was using language I will not repeat. He continued his abuse for a good five minutes with his wife joining in. I chose not to bite, because I go to rovers to watch the team win and support the players. I said to Simon, "How do you manage to sit here each week with this abuse?" Especially as he goes with his young son.

It the died off and we watched the match, At full time Birdie piped up again, with another round of abuse which included him trying to throw punches. I said to him "Birdie we come to football to watch football, there is little point falling out over a difference of opinion, he continued as did his wife, at this point i said to him " Its ok shouting your mouth off, but everyone sold their houses on Nuttall street when the new stadium was built bar you, who held Jack to ransom and took 2 and half times what your house was worth (Common Knowledge) When you are mouthing off, just remember you are here on Jacks cash. He continued to be aggressive and I never left where I was sat, at this point Glenn P came over and tried to defuse the situation. I left my seat and headed to the concourse where Birdie continued to try and throw punches and continued with his abuse, this continued outside the ground, until and number of supporters dragged him away and told him he was a discrace.

This behavour was disturbing. Many people have critisised protest, but it was once again a non protester who was being aggressive and trying ton cause issues. Throughout these protest despite the grief, I have had to keep my calm and take abuse on the chin, and even tonight I have took it on the chin, but that sort of supporter is a discrace, not only did he hold Jack to ransom, but he has the nerve to slag the everyday supporter off, for caring.

Birdie eh? You should have positioned yourself in front of a camera and let him land one or two.

btw glen ditch the Blackburn End. It's for football supporters not supporters of football.

[thenodrog]

Would love to see us go 4-4-2 against QPR with Simon and Hoilett on the wings, Yakubu, modeste up front. Also if this lad Orr has been bought to play, get him in at right back ASAP

Thats 4-2-4!!! Who are the unlucky 2 in midfield?

[thenodrog]

Maybe a well aimed meat+potato pie on his shiney bald head would wake coco up and leave the club.

Kean is setting himself up for life. He won't leave until his gravy train runs out of track.

I have no sympathy for Kean's choice to play Dann in the last two games. Kean has been using the excuse of 'not having a settled back 4' all season, then just when it looks like we're getting better he takes out our best performing player (Hanley) and picks Dann who looks terrible. How many hospital balls or long punts upfield did he make?

Kean's habit of dropping in form players has become an addiction. It's as if his aim is to relegate the club. Anybody care to speculate why or is my imagination running away with me?

[thenodrog]

Reading this and other forums you can say the same about comments directed towards those who protest. There should be no surprise that it's getting heated in the ground when you have a manager and owners who have fractured the fanbase.

Of mice and men, RVR.

The fan base is already fractured beyond redemption imo. How the hell anybody can not protest after events of the last 15 months which have left BRFC in such a sorry state and are taking us down the pan I will never understand. I guess not enough care enough deep down.

[No Nay Never]

instead of people slagging glen off, why dont you get off your arses and do something about our club going into the abyss? at least he is trying to make a difference, not like some of you pissing and moaning about how we are going down and yet you wont stand up and be counted, i am part of the protesters and proud to be so because i know at least i have tried to make our voices heard!!!

How is people not standing up to be counted going to change whether we are relegated or not? May or may not help the club in the long term future (not in my opinion but fair play to the people who protest) but they just aren't going to listen. The protests now such as the man with the boiled egg and 24hr protest are all starting to lack class for me.

[thenodrog]

Most of them looped straight into Krul's hands, especially in the second half.

No samba, no Hanley. when they are playing they go for the corners whilst the rest watch and hope for a knock down, when they aren't playing the rest still watch and hope for a knock down. No one willing to take responsibility and poor organisation.

MGP provided the cross of the match in the first half from a free kick that curved and whistled along the 6 yard line. No one got on the end of it and that is not his fault.

[thenodrog]

So everyone in the Blackburn End missed us hitting the bar, having one cleared off the line, and some difficult balls in that their keeper flapped at and could have landed anywhere? Didn't realise myopia was such a problem, or maybe some people are just blinded by their desire to pick on certain players. Always been a lot of selective eyesight goes on when it comes to Pedersen, anything good is ignored and anything bad is ranted about.

strange psychology that I cannot fathom. There always has to be one scapegoat. Sherwood, Wilcox, Carsley, Davies, Neill etc all copped for unreasonable flak.... I bloody well wish we had em all now.

2 out of 14 is an abysmal rate of chances created from corners. His dead balls were awful too in the main.

Never been a huge critic of MGP, but he is not good enough now. By far the worst part of his game is his "bobbly" passing, how he cannot pass the ball crisply, without stabbing it into the floor, is beyond me.

3 points down to his free kick last home game. Find another scapegoat.

[Tom]

If people did better with the good balls pedersen put in we wouldn't have lost the game.

I can think of 3 absolute sitters he created with dead balls and another bending free kick that was just begging for a touch which nobody gambled on.

He wasn't the problem yesterday.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

There were people around me who started moaning about the one he put right on Givet's head 6 yards out the instant it left his boot because they wrongly thought it wasn't gonna clear the first man. Thats the kind of rubbish he has to put up with every match, and yet he's always the last off the pitch clapping the fans, don't know why he bothers.

[thenodrog]

Yawn, crawl out of his backside.

says the bloke who must have worked himself so far up birdy's tonight that he can smell fresh air.

Back off dave, Glens screwed up plenty of times in direction and application but it's been a steep learning curve. There is no nightschool course for this sort of stuff remember. BUT whatever Glen is doing it for at least he is doing something other than shrugging his shoulders after every defeat and plodding off home in abject silence.

Last night there was little protest and we got beaten by a poor team so views that protests affect the result are off the mark. If somethings worth having it's worth standing up for.

[Robbo]

If people did better with the good balls pedersen put in we wouldn't have lost the game.

I can think of 3 absolute sitters he created with dead balls and another bending free kick that was just begging for a touch which nobody gambled on.

He wasn't the problem yesterday.

Yes, he put in some great balls from some of the set pieces and I did think that if Samba was playing he'd have got to one of them. But, we're not playing American Football. We don't need a specialist kicker. Surely some other left footer can bend a ball in. MGP is in the side purely for his set piece delivery.

[nellybc]

You know when people resort to comparing to a regular job that they don't really have a clue...

Sorry if i don't have a clue. Only been watching football for 30+ years. Hey-ho!!

[nellybc]

or maybe some people are just blinded by their desire to pick on certain players. Always been a lot of selective eyesight goes on when it comes to Pedersen, anything good is ignored and anything bad is ranted about.

I am not blaming or picking on pedersen for any other reason that his dead ball delivery was poor in my opinion!! I think his stats for the season say it all. 2 assists as mentioned in a previous post.

In the second half we had Junior on the keeper at corners, says it all really.

So who do you want me to blame for that ?? They practise these things every day!! There must be a plan!! If morten cant organise it then maybe he should stop taking them!!

Are YOU for real?

The inswinging corners were being put on top of the keeper for a reason.

Where was the challenges? I remember Dann not even bothering to jump for one.

The outswinging corners were more driven which resulted in the chances mentioned.

How can you blame Peds for others not challenging?

Fair do's not all of his corners were brilliant, but the majority were.

Definition of a crap corner (IMO): either sailing right over the box, not making it in to the box or complete miss kick.

Other than that, someone should be attacking the ball when put in the box.

Yes pal. I was sat there with my head in my hands after kruhl caught yet another simple delivery.

So morten should have organised it! Its not rocket science. I dont care who did or didnt challenge. They should have this sorted. I didnt once see pedersen gesticulate to his team mates about a lack of a challenge in the 2nd half.

He is taking them. He should have the player he wants challenging. Nothing changed all game. It was just the same. Chip it in and hope for the best.

I do agree with your definition on the whole as you say somebody should be attacking the ball. How many were free headers away or free catches. More than those that were challenged for sure.

Not something I would pick on from yesterday's performance. The thing really missing was finishing, we created a lot of chances from dead ball and open play but lacked the composure to put them away.

maybe that was the problem, i am just so frustrated, that something has to give and it just appeared that the set piece delivery was the thing that annoyed me the most.

No one willing to take responsibility and poor organisation.

MGP provided the cross of the match in the first half from a free kick that curved and whistled along the 6 yard line. No one got on the end of it and that is not his fault.

Exactly!

I agree with the ball across the front of the goal, i thought that was just a free play cross. Doh!!

He wasn't the problem yesterday.

I know that in reality and i am not making him a scapegoat above anybody else but it was just so glaringly clear infront of me we were messing it up big style.

[nellybc]

and yet he's always the last off the pitch clapping the fans, don't know why he bothers.

He bothers, becuase i believe he cares. Just because he annoyed me intensley on weds, that wont stop me willing him on.

Remember wigan when they all ran off!! I remember the game after when only robbo and lowe and morten came to clap the fans after another abysmal performance!!

[cmb211087]

Calm down, my Junior on the keeper comment was posted to back up your point!

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

He bothers, becuase i believe he cares. Just because he annoyed me intensley on weds, that wont stop me willing him on.

Remember wigan when they all ran off!! I remember the game after when only robbo and lowe and morten came to clap the fans after another abysmal performance!!

I don't give a ###### if none of the players ever come over to clap the fans ! What the f--k is that all about in the first place ? What I do give a ###### about is that they run their blood to water for the club whilst they're out on the pitch.

[Pedro]

This is the thing about Pedersen. He takes the vast majority of set-pieces (including long-throws), so by the law of averages he's going to get some assists - at which point his fanclub start tooting their horns. But his actual success rate from set-pieces is dreadful. 2 assists this season, according to ESPN. So really, we're keeping a player in the side for set-pieces... who isn't very good at set-pieces. And you wonder why we've got problems.

That's the reason we've scored from more corners than anyone else in the league then They may not be classed as his "assists" but they are his initial delivery which is usually of a good standard. The downfall last match was nobody stood on the toes of the keeper and made it hard work for him in the second half. We missed Samba in that situation and Dann proved on a few occasions that at the minute he simply doesn't have the balls for getting hurt again (pun intended).

Pedersen has his maor flaws and been at fault a couple of times but so has pretty much every player in our side. In terms of our problems it is largely because defensively we have consistently invited the opposition into the box, stopped tracking men and made frequent schoolboy errors that you can't get away with at this level.

[Amo]

That's the reason we've scored from more corners than anyone else in the league then They may not be classed as his "assists" but they are his initial delivery which is usually of a good standard. The downfall last match was nobody stood on the toes of the keeper and made it hard work for him in the second half. We missed Samba in that situation and Dann proved on a few occasions that at the minute he simply doesn't have the balls for getting hurt again (pun intended).

Pedersen has his maor flaws and been at fault a couple of times but so has pretty much every player in our side. In terms of our problems it is largely because defensively we have consistently invited the opposition into the box, stopped tracking men and made frequent schoolboy errors that you can't get away with at this level.

Our midfield is weak because we have players like Pedersen who can't run, pass, tackle or shoot.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

You're not wrong there.

[Guest Wen Y Hu]

Parsonblue's match report for the Newcastle game is now published on the front page here. The delay in publishing is down to me being away from things for a few days.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Thanks for that Parson, grim reading indeed.